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Tuesday, September 8th, 2020 9:43 PM

New Fiber installation

I'm about to move into a brand new home that has an AT&T fiber box at the street but nothing run into the house yet. I have 2 Cat5e wires and a two coax wires hanging out of the brick wall outside the garage right next to the main electrical meter box. The cat 5e and coax cable run to a big media conjunction box inside the house that has an electrical outlet in the box, and phone, cable and ethernet lines that connect to jacks in every room. If I go with the fiber versus cable, can this be installed with all equipment outside by the electrical box utilizing that cat 5e wires to connect to the media junction box in the house? I don't want to run additional wires, drill holes in the side of my new house etc. All I want inside the house is a modem plugged into the media box inside the closet. I want the ONT installed outside next to the electrical box using the cat 5e that runs to that spot outside of the house. Is this possible with Fiber?

Former Employee

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22.4K Messages

4 years ago

No, the current models of ONTs have to be installed inside.... 

Ideally to the media box area. Which means fiber to the side of the residential area then fiber inside to the media area....

 

Did the contractor install a conduit with pull string to allow access for the fiber run?

 

Requiring another hole in side of wall or removal of one the cat5e wiring to be replaced with fiber wiring. 

 

Each install is different... is the wiring thru an unfinished basement? Making for a relative easy fiber install. 

 

Could maybe mount the ONT in the garage and use one of the cat5e runs from the ONT to the media closet. How hot/cold would the garage become... the ONT needs to be within a certain operating temp requiring you to heat or cool the garage as needed if placed there.

 

 

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4 years ago

No conduit with a pull string. I looked at some of the other houses that are finished in the neighborhood and there's a thicker flat black wire running up the brick through the soffit. I'm assuming they crawl up in the attic to run it where it needs to go within the house.

 

I'm in Northern Florida, house is on a slab and the garage does get hot in summer and cold in winter. if they run it up through the soffit into the attic I'm hoping they can drill a hole and pull the wire down inside the wall where the media closet is.. seems a waste to have this nice built-in if I can't hide the equipment inside it or at least right next to it.

 

I've seen some installs where there's just a thin wire running from a box outside, right through a hole in the side of the house and the ONT right on the other side with wires running everywhere. I don't want the ONT on my living room or bedroom wall. Or wires running along baseboards drilled through walls.. there has to be a better way to install this. I may try to do some leg work before the installer comes if I go with Fiber to make sure it ends up where I want it.. and as invisible as possible.

 

Can the ONT go inside a built in media closet or would it get too hot with no ventilation? It's in my master bedroom closet so I could mount it right above or below and run a cable conduit through the wall into the media box. Assuming the modem needs to be outside the media closet as well if they throw off heat. Thank you for your insight.

ACE - Professor

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4 years ago

   Attach the floor plan. Picture of media box.  Maybe the fiber entry can be be near the master bedroom closet. Straight run to media box and mount ONT in the  media box. My  apartment had the ONT in the network box in a bedroom closet. 
Sorry for the sideways photos. 





 

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4 years ago

If your willing to do some leg work...

Purchase a length of pre made fiber and install yourself from the outside point to the media area.... remember length is in meters about 3.1 feet to a meter ... 20 meters is about 65 feet of fiber add at least 10% to your estimate length needs

https://www.amazon.com/50M-Singlemode-Simplex-Fiber-Optic/dp/B07WZJ2ZQW

 

The tech could install a fiber NID on the outside of premise, use a fiber coupler to connect the outside fiber drop to the inside fiber line

Self Install for ONT | AT&T Community Forums

 

An older youtube install that has the fiber NID

https://youtu.be/R9_l8TF8xhI

 

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4 years ago

Do they still normally install an NID, or do they run the thicker black line from the box by the street all the way into the house and directly to the ONT, wherever it's located? I may already have enough holes drilled up into the soffit, into the attic, and on the top rail of that wall down into the media box that I can already use to run a line directly into the media closet. 

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4 years ago

I'm not in the house yet but I managed to get a couple pictures of the box before they sheet rocked. There's already a couple holes i could push out the foam and drop a line directly into it. 

 

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4 years ago

(Edited) See included image...

 

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4 years ago

The AT&T fiber box is in the ground probably 15 feet from the garage side. The media closet is in the wall between the closet and master bedroom, not too bad of a run through the attic.

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4 years ago

The cat 5e and coax they ran from the media closet to outside come out right by the electrical box on the garage side near the fiber box.

Former Employee

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22.4K Messages

4 years ago

In our area, SE Wisconsin, Milwaukee market... all buried fiber drops should have a NID install... aerial drops from poles go straight in.

 

The NID allows for both light level troubleshooting and replacement of the buried drop if damaged without needing access to the inside.

 

There are times where the techs lays a drop the on ground during installation yet the outside contractor burys a new drop, not the one already installed requiring another tech dispatch to perform a CUT OVER ticket swapping out the fiber lines. With everything being done outside the customer does not need to be home or be concerned about having a tech inside the residential area if not needed, especially during COVId 19 time period.

 

I generally carry 2 fiber NIDs and 2 copper NIDS on my truck, with MDU installs and number of repairs it is rare I will use 3 to 4 NIDS per day.

 

Based upon the company January 2020 statement, they wish to add 3 million more fiber internet accounts from the existing 14 million available by end of 2022. This is an average of 1 million new fiber installs installs per year within the 21 state footprint or 83,000+ installs per month within about 90 markets. The higher uptake seems to be with the MDU setting of apartment / condo complexes (over 3.5 million addresses available) while single family (10+million) seems to be much slower... however it is the single family where NIDs will be used not the MDUs.

 

Note, have also seen where installers did not have NIDs and left several feet of fiber looped on the side of the residence, allowing for a future tech to cut the fiber and install a NID if needing to replace the fiber drop. This is similar to what a DirecTv tech or local cable company tech might do with coax line.... several loops on the outside before going inside.

Another drip loop : cableporn

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