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Tuesday, April 12th, 2022 2:02 PM

iPhone Upgrade

Last year I upgraded my previous iPhone to an iPhone 12 Mini, taking advantage of the trade-in promotion. The battery life has become a serious problem, and Apple Support says it's normal with this phone. I would seriously like to trade it in (upgrade) to an iPhone 13 model, but it seems I'd lose all the credit for my previous upgrade if I do so. Yes, it's in the "fine print" that one "may" (does NOT say "shall" or "will") lose any discounts or credits if they pay off early or upgrade again, and it seems rather predatory of AT&T to lock customers in this way. Basically I'm now stuck with a poorly functioning phone that requires recharging two or three times a day for the next two years, and believe there should be some resolution other than losing hundreds of dollars in credits. How about it, AT&T, any options for "support" of what you sold?

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232.1K Messages

2 years ago

We want to address your concerns regarding your device, @John4Forum.

 

Apple devices typically carry a warranty from Apple of 1 year after purchase date. If you've had your device for less than a year, we recommend exploring your replacement options as @sandblaster  mentioned. Please keep in mind that if your device has any of these types of damage, it won’t be covered by the manufacturer’s warranty:

  • Frame or body damage.
  • Screen damage.
  • Damaged charger port.
  • Liquid damage.

@formerlyknownas is correct about how our upgrade program works. If you decide to trade-up then credits will cease.

 

Here's everything you should know about Next Up:

  • The credit is applied in monthly installments over the 30 or 36 month installment agreement period.
  • To get all the credits, the discounted device must remain on installment agreement and you must keep eligible service for entire installment term.
  • The customer has 10 days from the day they receive the new device to return their turn-in device.
  • If the turn in device isn't received within 45 days, they will be billed for all remaining installments on the device. If it is received, the remaining installment balance will be waived.
  • Credits start within 3 bill cycles once the turn-in is received. The first credit will be equal to the number of installment payments made.
  • Customer is responsible for payment until the bill credit is issued. Late fees apply if bill unpaid.
  • Service must remain on eligible unlimited plan.
  • All turn-ins are final.
  • Customers are responsible for Next Up $5/month feature (if applicable), taxes on the full retail price and activation fees.
  • If a down payment is required, offer credits and down payment credits appear separately on the bill.
  • If the line is disconnected early, the customer is responsible for the remaining amount owned on the installment agreement.

Here's everything you should know about the Trade-in Program:

  • Trade-in smartphone must meet AT&T Trade-In Program requirements and meet the minimum trade-in value requirements when AT&T takes possession of trade-in device.
  • Must complete trade-in within 30 days from activation of new phone.
  • If trade-in value of device is greater than the credit you are eligible for under this offer, you may receive a one-time trade-in credit (value via instant credit or promo card) in lieu of this bill credit offer.
  • To qualify for bill credits, wireless line must be on an installment agreement, and remain active & in good standing for 30 days.
  • Installment agreement starts when device is shipped.
  • To get all the credits, the discounted device must remain on installment agreement and you must keep eligible service for entire installment term.
  • If you upgrade or pay up/off the installment agreement on the discounted device early, your credits may cease.
  • You have 14 days to exchange or return the smartphone; a restocking fee of up to $55 may apply.
  • Pricing, promotions, programming, terms & restrictions subject to change & may be modified or terminated at any time without notice.

Thanks for visiting our Community Forums! Please let us know if you have any additional questions. 

 

Sydne, AT&T Community Specialist

 

 

ACE - Sage

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117.6K Messages

2 years ago

If you upgrade your line, you absolutely do lose credits. You would also be required to trade in your existing phone if you haven't paid it off 100%.  Returning the phone with wipe out any remaining installments, but as I said it also means the end of the credits as well. 

The phone is not an AT&T product. Only the service is. If you have a problem with the phone, contact Apple directly. 

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ACE - Expert

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64.7K Messages

2 years ago

You don’t have to buy from ATT. Buy directly from Apple and trade the 12 in to Apple. Another option is have the battery replaced. Whether it’s an issue with that phone or not, it’s apparently not all phones. My wife has a 12 mini and has no such battery issue.

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8 Messages

2 years ago

Re: “My wife has a 12 mini and has no such battery issue.”

I never had an issue until AT&T “upgraded” to 5g. I went from 5 bars to 3 bars, even with 5g disabled, and suspect that at least part of the increased battery drain is attempting to stay connected now. 

Also the battery capacity says it’s only at 91% now which Apple says is normal aging but a nearly 10% loss in total capacity in just a few months still seems excessive. 

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2 years ago

Re: “You don’t have to buy from ATT. Buy directly from Apple and trade the 12 in to Apple.”

Not a solution as I’d still lose the remaining credit for my previous trade-in. 

At its best this is poor customer service. It wouldn’t cost AT&T a thing to apply the remainder of the discount to my account and allow me to pay off the balance. 

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8 Messages

2 years ago

Re: “You would also be required to trade in your existing phone if you haven't paid it off 100%.”

AT&T Customer Support did not offer that option, but the loss of the promised credit remains a non-starter. 

ACE - Master

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2 years ago

Re: “You don’t have to buy from ATT. Buy directly from Apple and trade the 12 in to Apple.”

Not a solution as I’d still lose the remaining credit for my previous trade-in. 

Actually, you can do just that.  You still have to keep making the monthly payments on the 12, but you’ll also keep getting the credits.  I know it works because I did exactly that.  I have an unlocked iPhone 13 that bought from Apple, and used the 12 that I bought from AT&T as a trade in.  I’m still getting a monthly charge for the 12 on my bill, as well as the monthly credit.  As long as you keep paying for the phone and keep the service, AT&T doesn’t care whether you still use or have the phone or not.  And, Apple doesn’t care whether a trade is locked to AT&T or on an installment plan.  As far as they are concerned, that’s between you and AT&T.

Also the battery capacity says it’s only at 91% now which Apple says is normal aging but a nearly 10% loss in total capacity in just a few months still seems excessive

How old is your phone?  I think everyone was assuming that it’s over a year old, but if it’s not, then it’s still covered under the Apple 1year warranty.  If Apple doesn’t think it’s a problem or doesn’t want to provide warranty service on your phone, then that’s between you and Apple.  AT&T has nothing to do with the manufacturer’s warranty.

Re: “You would also be required to trade in your existing phone if you haven't paid it off 100%.”

Not sure what this means.  If you want to trade in a phone to AT&T, it needs to be paid off.  The only exception is the Next Up program where you can do an upgrade if you’ve already paid off 1/2 of the total and trade in the old phone.  But you have to already be on that program, which costs $5 extra a month, I believe.  They aren’t just going to take your old phone in lieu of whatever you still owe on it.

ACE - Sage

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117.6K Messages

2 years ago

Just in case you misunderstood @sandblaster

And @dwill05  wrote...

If you update directly with apple, having absolutely nothing to do with AT&T but using apples own upgrade and financing program, AT&T has nothing to do with it, and it will not affect the credits that you are receiving on your line. The phone you purchase from Apple will be brought to AT&T as a BYOD. 

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8 Messages

2 years ago

Ah, simple. Not. The phone is a bit over 6 months old. Apple warranty support techs say what I'm experiencing is normal. I disagree, but have no other recourse that I'm aware of, which is why I was looking at the possibility of replacement. However, I simply can't afford the full price of a replacement phone in today's economy. Even with Apple's direct trade in option I'd essentially be paying more for a "replacement" than for a new phone. Ah well, (Edited per community guidelines) to be me I guess ... but thanks for all the suggestions!

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Community Support

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232.1K Messages

2 years ago

Hey there John4Forum, we want to help you get your AT&T email setup on Apple Mail. 

 

We have detailed information to learn how to setup email on your devices.

 

Get a secure mail key

  • AT&T Mail security upgrades mean that if you have certain types of email apps, you’ll need to update your settings. Learn more about the security upgrade.
  • If your device gets the security upgrade, be sure to create a secure mail key. You’ll need it to set up or keep getting your AT&T Mail with a mobile app.
  • If you use one of these email apps, you won’t need a secure mail key.

Please let us know if you this information works for you. Thank you for contacting AT&T Community Forums.

 

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