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Does the Apple Upgrade Program affect my ATT bill?

Since there does not seem to be any recent answers on the subject, will using the Apple Upgrade Program (through Apple and Citizen's Bank) affect my bill?

I am assuming that there would be a cost (about $45?) for setting up the phone on my account and transferring my phone number over, but beyond that I can't seem to find any information.

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Re: Does the Apple Upgrade Program affect my ATT bill?

No. Using Apple’s upgrade program, you shouldn’t have any charges from ATT with the possible exception of the upgrade fee, which is now $30, not $45. However, if you get a sim free phone from Apple, you won’t get an upgrade fee either. Just use the SIM card from your current phone.

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Re: Does the Apple Upgrade Program affect my ATT bill?

So the preferable way to get a new iPhone for AT&T users via the CitizensOne Apple program would be to select a sim-free, unlocked, non-carrier affiliated phone and then put your old AT&T SIM in the new phone (assuming it's a recent phone with the same size SIM, eg X to XS Max). As part of the upgrade process it typically guides you down the carrier pathway, though, so I'm not sure if this available as an online option.

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Re: Does the Apple Upgrade Program affect my ATT bill?

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Yes, you swap your SIM card into the phone and set up with iTunes.  ATT is not involved with your upgrade in any way.  

 

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Re: Does the Apple Upgrade Program affect my ATT bill?

Hello,

 

I just discovered we are now required to pay this one-time $30.00 fee.

To get a "sim-free, unlocked, non-carrier affiliated phone" that allows to spare this fee it then means you do not go through the update program.

You have to pay your iPhone in full in a one-time payment. And then you can't "exchange" it for a new phone after 12 months.

You possibly can bring it back next year and see what Apples is ready to give you for your phone but it is a completely different story than the update program.

Or am I missing something, here?

 

I don't get why AT&T does not charge anything if you change your phone that way but charges $30 if you go through the update program.

What is the technical explanation that justifies a $30.00 fee, please?

 

Thanks for any correction/clarification.

Regards,

 

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@OxleyDMDC wrote:

 

What is the technical explanation that justifies a $30.00 fee, please?

 


AT&T wants $30 for the activation of the AT&T SIM that's in the phone.

 

 

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@OxleyDMDC

According to Apple upgrade program, they run a credit check.  For as long as I’ve been alive, I’m pretty sure they pay for that.  Scroll to the fine print.

https://www.apple.com/shop/iphone/iphone-upgrade-program?afid=p238%7CizTgNK5d-dt_mtid_1870765e38482_...

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Re: Does the Apple Upgrade Program affect my ATT bill?

You do not pay $30.00 for a credit check. EVER!
The charge is displayed by Apple but it has nothing to do with Apple!

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@Gary L

 

So, each time you will now update your phone you will have to pay $30.00 for a sim card activation?

==> Like if you were opening a new account with AT&T?!

==> For something done by a computer involving no human work?!

 

This is indeed a "justification" but not a valid explanation of what kind of work is paid for with these $30.00.

I guess the person who got the idea of charging these unfair $30.00 got a really big bonus for his "creativity"!

 

This is disgusting...

 

Regards,

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@OxleyDMDC

So don’t buy from ATT.  I have only upgraded through ATT once in 5 years, and then only for a $400 discount off the top of a phone purchase.  All our phones were full price purchases.  I just say I’m prepaid if buying a branded phone.  

 

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@OxleyDMDC wrote:

@Gary L

 So, each time you will now update your phone you will have to pay $30.00 for a sim card activation?

==> For something done by a computer involving no human work?!

Just like your monthly cellular service. It's done by a computer and requires no human work. But you pay that.

 

I hear you though. Obviously, I'd rather not pay it.

 

 

 

 

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So, each time you will now update your phone you will have to pay $30.00 for a sim card activation?

==> For something done by a computer involving no human work?!

Just like your monthly cellular service. It's done by a computer and requires no human work. But you pay that."

 

==> In order to use your phone you need to use a network (of cellular antennas) and the technology is upgraded time to time. There is a justification for us to be charged for the provided service because the network needs constant human work (after having been built). That said I will not complain if they lower the charge!

==> If you open an account you go online or in a store and people are handling your case, validating your info, checking your account and credit score, proposing insurance, upgrades, etc. A certain amount of work involving humans is done so can be charged. Also, the carrier could decide not to charge for it!

 

BUT when you receive your phone at home, you just need to enter few info in your new phone such as your phone number for the network to understand that it is the new device to be taken in charge of (and not anymore the former one). The switch is 100% handled by computers with info you entered yourself.

And the more up-to-date is your phone the more service you are likely to use, hence a bigger invoice.

SO, there is no justification for these $30.00. And AT&T did not need to charge for it until now!

 

They just want to "punish" consumers that do not purchase their phone directly from "AT&T".

How "free" is the market?

 

Regards,

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@OxleyDMDC    @Gary L

   Can’t justify this either.   https://www.androidpolice.com/2018/12/03/metro-by-t-mobile-now-charges-a-15-fee-every-time-you-swap-...

But the carrier that made fun of Verizon and Att for ‘fleas’/fees has now has its prime MVNO instituting a fee when it’s customers swap their own SIM cards.  At least Apple, ATT and Verizon have to do paperwork to process an upgrade.  

 

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