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Edited by Phil-101 on Nov 22, 2012 at 8:16:58 PM

I was looking at traveling to London and the rates for Int'l roaming... is my math wrong or are these guys complete i-d-i-o-t-s? At what point are the plans a good deal? Not until I am way into overage.

 

Am I reading these plans right? http://www.att.com/shopcms/media/att/2012/shop/wireless/promotions/International-Wifi/New10_30_12_Eu...

 

@ 10 min of use...

30 min plan = $40 ($30/mo + $1/min * 10)

60 min plan = $67.50 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 10)

no plan = $15 ($1.50/min * 10)

 

@ 30 min of use...

30 min plan = $60 ($30/mo + $1/min * 30)

60 min plan = $82.50 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 30)

no plan = $45 ($1.50/min * 30)

 

@ 50 min of use...

30 min plan = $80 ($30/mo + $1/min * 50)

60 min plan = $97.50 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 50)

no plan = $75 ($1.50/min * 50)

 

@ 80 min of use...

30 min plan = $110 ($30/mo + $1/min * 80)

60 min plan = $120 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 80)

no plan = $120 ($1.50/min * 80)

 

@ 100 min of use...

30 min plan = $60 ($130/mo + $1/min * 100)

60 min plan = $82.50 ($140/mo + $0.75/min * 80 + $1/min overage * 20)

no plan = $45 ($1.50/min * 150)

 

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I was looking at traveling to London and the rates for Int'l roaming... is my math wrong or are these guys complete i-d-i-o-t-s? At what point are the plans a good deal? Not until I am way into overage.

 

Am I reading these plans right? http://www.att.com/shopcms/media/att/2012/shop/wireless/promotions/International-Wifi/New10_30_12_Europe_World_Travel_Minutes_Final.pdf

 

@ 10 min of use...

30 min plan = $40 ($30/mo + $1/min * 10)

60 min plan = $67.50 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 10)

no plan = $15 ($1.50/min * 10)

 

@ 30 min of use...

30 min plan = $60 ($30/mo + $1/min * 30)

60 min plan = $82.50 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 30)

no plan = $45 ($1.50/min * 30)

 

@ 50 min of use...

30 min plan = $80 ($30/mo + $1/min * 50)

60 min plan = $97.50 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 50)

no plan = $75 ($1.50/min * 50)

 

@ 80 min of use...

30 min plan = $110 ($30/mo + $1/min * 80)

60 min plan = $120 ($60/mo + $0.75/min * 80)

no plan = $120 ($1.50/min * 80)

 

@ 100 min of use...

30 min plan = $60 ($130/mo + $1/min * 100)

60 min plan = $82.50 ($140/mo + $0.75/min * 80 + $1/min overage * 20)

no plan = $45 ($1.50/min * 150)

 

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Edited by Phil-101 on Nov 22, 2012 at 8:17:47 PM

You're reading them wrong, it's not the price ($30,60,120) plus per minute rate, for the price there are 30, 80 or 200 munites included in that price, if you take a $30 plan you have 30 minutes to use for that $30 so anything from 1 to 30 minutes is already paid for. Your math is confusing, so to make things simple here is the break down:

 

Europe plans:

30 minutes = $30

80 minutes = $60

200 minutes = $120

Any minutes over those allowences will be $1 per minute.

 

Pay per use rate is $1.50 per minute, so:

10 minutes = $15 (the only example that would be cheaper that a plan, so ppu makes sense here)

30 minutes = $45 (versus $30 with the plan)

50 minutes = $75 (versus $60)

80 minutes = $120 (versus $60)

100 minutes = $150 (versus $120)

200 minutes = $300 (versus $120)

 

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Edited by Phil-101 on Nov 22, 2012 at 8:17:47 PM

You're reading them wrong, it's not the price ($30,60,120) plus per minute rate, for the price there are 30, 80 or 200 munites included in that price, if you take a $30 plan you have 30 minutes to use for that $30 so anything from 1 to 30 minutes is already paid for. Your math is confusing, so to make things simple here is the break down:

 

Europe plans:

30 minutes = $30

80 minutes = $60

200 minutes = $120

Any minutes over those allowences will be $1 per minute.

 

Pay per use rate is $1.50 per minute, so:

10 minutes = $15 (the only example that would be cheaper that a plan, so ppu makes sense here)

30 minutes = $45 (versus $30 with the plan)

50 minutes = $75 (versus $60)

80 minutes = $120 (versus $60)

100 minutes = $150 (versus $120)

200 minutes = $300 (versus $120)

 

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You're reading them wrong, it's not the price ($30,60,120) plus per minute rate, for the price there are 30, 80 or 200 munites included in that price, if you take a $30 plan you have 30 minutes to use for that $30 so anything from 1 to 30 minutes is already paid for. Your math is confusing, so to make things simple here is the break down:

 

Europe plans:

30 minutes = $30

80 minutes = $60

200 minutes = $120

Any minutes over those allowences will be $1 per minute.

 

Pay per use rate is $1.50 per minute, so:

10 minutes = $15 (the only example that would be cheaper that a plan, so ppu makes sense here)

30 minutes = $45 (versus $30 with the plan)

50 minutes = $75 (versus $60)

80 minutes = $120 (versus $60)

100 minutes = $150 (versus $120)

200 minutes = $300 (versus $120)

 

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Edited by aaronlam on Nov 22, 2012 at 9:37:15 PM

Alright... thanks for clearing that up. I am just annoyed b/c the plans are no longer pro-rated.

 

It it is also confusing b/c ON the sheet... it says: INCLUDED MINUTES: 30 (1.00/min)... it doesn't say that charge is overages.

 

It also says RIGHT next to it Per-Minute-Overage and those charges do not match the ones in parathensis.

 

Monthly Charge                          Included Minutes                   Per-Minute Overage

               $30                                 30 ($1.00/min.)                                 $1.00  

               $60                                   80 ($.75/min.)                                 $1.00

               $80                                  200 ($.60/min.)                                $1.00

 

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Alright... thanks for clearing that up. I am just annoyed b/c the plans are no longer pro-rated.

 

It it is also confusing b/c ON the sheet... it says: INCLUDED MINUTES: 30 (1.00/min)... it doesn't say that charge is overages.

 

It also says RIGHT next to it Per-Minute-Overage and those charges do not match the ones in parathensis.

 

Monthly Charge                          Included Minutes                   Per-Minute Overage

               $30                                 30 ($1.00/min.)                                 $1.00  

               $60                                   80 ($.75/min.)                                 $1.00

               $80                                  200 ($.60/min.)                                $1.00

 

I guess I am the i-d-i-o-t Smiley Happy

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Edited by MicCheck on Nov 23, 2012 at 3:25:14 AM

aaronlam wrote:

Alright... thanks for clearing that up. I am just annoyed b/c the plans are no longer pro-rated.

 

It it is also confusing b/c ON the sheet... it says: INCLUDED MINUTES: 30 (1.00/min)... it doesn't say that charge is overages.

 

It also says RIGHT next to it Per-Minute-Overage and those charges do not match the ones in parathensis.

 

Monthly Charge                          Included Minutes                   Per-Minute Overage

               $30                                 30 ($1.00/min.)                                 $1.00  

               $60                                   80 ($.75/min.)                                 $1.00

               $80                                  200 ($.60/min.)                                $1.00

 

I guess I am the i-d-i-o-t Smiley Happy


The numbers in parentheses is how much you pay for that initial block: for $30, you get 30 minutes, which works out to $1/min for that block. For $80 you get 200 minutes, which works out to $.60/min for that block.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by prorated. If you have the plan at least a month, the plan will be prorated if you remove it in the middle of a bill cycles. If you don't want to pay for the whole block, you can pay per use at $1.50/minute.


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Alright... thanks for clearing that up. I am just annoyed b/c the plans are no longer pro-rated.

 

It it is also confusing b/c ON the sheet... it says: INCLUDED MINUTES: 30 (1.00/min)... it doesn't say that charge is overages.

 

It also says RIGHT next to it Per-Minute-Overage and those charges do not match the ones in parathensis.

 

Monthly Charge                          Included Minutes                   Per-Minute Overage

               $30                                 30 ($1.00/min.)                                 $1.00  

               $60                                   80 ($.75/min.)                                 $1.00

               $80                                  200 ($.60/min.)                                $1.00

 

I guess I am the i-d-i-o-t Smiley Happy


The numbers in parentheses is how much you pay for that initial block: for $30, you get 30 minutes, which works out to $1/min for that block. For $80 you get 200 minutes, which works out to $.60/min for that block.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by prorated. If you have the plan at least a month, the plan will be prorated if you remove it in the middle of a bill cycles. If you don't want to pay for the whole block, you can pay per use at $1.50/minute.

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Ah. I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

ATT's policy used to be (back in Feb 2012) if you signed up for int'l roaming... data or voice... you got your full allotted voice/data but only paid the amount you were there. So if you were there for 3 days... it would be $30/30 days = $1 / day * 3 days = $3!!! And still get the full 30 min to use.

 

It was always too good to be true... this plan makes more sense now.

 

That's for explaining to me.

Ah. I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

ATT's policy used to be (back in Feb 2012) if you signed up for int'l roaming... data or voice... you got your full allotted voice/data but only paid the amount you were there. So if you were there for 3 days... it would be $30/30 days = $1 / day * 3 days = $3!!! And still get the full 30 min to use.

 

It was always too good to be true... this plan makes more sense now.

 

That's for explaining to me.

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