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Tuesday, May 22nd, 2012 12:57 AM

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AT&T, privacy, and business ethics

I just got this email from AT&T about my CPNI usage. Apparently they want to use my private info for marketing purposes. Here's what's wrong with that.

I'm already a customer, leave me alone. Stop advertising new services and products to your own customers it's an annoying waste that clutters the website, my inbox, and wastes time when calling customer service.

Second, they were going to take my private info anyway if I did not respond the long, confusing e-mail with unfamiliar abbreviations like CPNI. They are profiting from every instance of non-response. Most people don't have the time or don't care enough to contact AT&T and request not to have their privacy invaded.

The language used is deceptive: "By checking this box I am requesting that AT&T restrict the use of my CPNI." that's the quote. See, it seems like they are restricting you, because of the purposefully confusing language. In reality, they are being restricted. I wonder what they have to gain that they would phrase it in a backwards way like this, surely AT&T has no concern for clarity when communicating with customers.

Bad show guys. Most people aren't going to notice, the rest probably won't care, but I hope there are a few people who demand more from a company they pay thousands of dollars to annually.

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552 Messages

12 years ago

@jamileh I know you are in a difficult position having to defend/help out a sleazy policy decided by your employers.

Fact is, this opting-out-only policy is dishonest and very low.

Anything that isn't right, isn't right even if you provide an opt-out.

It should not be the customer's burden do protect his privacy from you.

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12 years ago

And here we go again.  Typed in the following from the card received in the mail www.att.com/ecpnioptout and got the following message,

Page Not Found The page you're looking for has moved,
been replaced, or is currently unavailable
to view.

 

No alternate link provided and did not automatically forward to the new page.

 

I never received an email.  When I first tried to use the online page I got the message that my request could not be completed, to try again later, or call the automated phone number.  My account number is not on the mailer as is stated by both the web page and the phone service so I had to find it myself.  After getting it from my online account info page I found that there are more digits in the account number than allowed in either opt out system.

 

Basically, I am finding so many errors in att's opt out process that I get the impression that att would rather I didn't opt out.  My observation of many large corporations including att is that if the company doesn't want its customer's to be able to do something like opting out or requesting warranty concessions or anything that might cost the company a couple of bucks, the company will make the process so unbearably frustrating as to be undoable.  The percentage of customers willing to hold long enough, escalate issues, follow endless trees of menus, etc is not surprisingly quite small.  Few people have the time, the patience, or the debating prowess to navigate the maze of customer service land mines.

 

By my count this process is plagued by:

1) Email failure

2) Dead web page address

3) Failure of web page to accomplish it's own goal with no reason given as to why

4) Failure of automated phone system to accomplish it's own goal due to a lack of account number format information

5) Web page and mailed card provide contradicting information concerning location of account info

6) Att's failure to provide adequate information or template concerning account number format required

7) Att's overall failure to provide a functional method to opt out that requires a minimum of effort and time.  It is important to remember that the main complaint here is that Att is forcing their customers to do something out of the norm.  The customers are having to pay attention to and modify something that they normally would not have to.  They have all been frightened into deep concerns over protecting their personal information and so feel the need to do so but no one wants to be frustrated by a broken system.  Until someone at Att decides to look at this problem from a customer perpective frustration is inevitable.

Former Community Manager

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5.2K Messages

12 years ago

I'm sorry the website did not load for you. I just clicked on it and it loaded properly. 

 

The email would have been sent to your email address of record. If you did not received it, perhaps it went into a spam/junk folder? If you do not have an email address associated with your account, you would have received only the mailed letter as you indicated in your earlier post. 

 

Will you please send me a private message with your name, account number, phone number and the best time to contact you? I will have a member of my team contact you directly to assist in opting out. 




To send a private message, you can either click on the link in this message or click on the little blue envelope in the upper right hand corner, click "compose new message" and type my username in the "Send To" field.

 

 

Former Community Manager

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5.2K Messages

12 years ago

Thank you for the private message with the information. I've responded with some additional information and a few questions. 

 

Please take a look when you have a moment. 

Contributor

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2 Messages

12 years ago

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@LamarWashington wrote:
I just got this email from AT&T about my CPNI usage. Apparently they want to use my private info for marketing purposes. Here's what's wrong with that.

I'm already a customer, leave me alone. Stop advertising new services and products to your own customers it's an annoying waste that clutters the website, my inbox, and wastes time when calling customer service.

Second, they were going to take my private info anyway if I did not respond the long, confusing e-mail with unfamiliar abbreviations like CPNI. They are profiting from every instance of non-response. Most people don't have the time or don't care enough to contact AT&T and request not to have their privacy invaded.

The language used is deceptive: "By checking this box I am requesting that AT&T restrict the use of my CPNI." that's the quote. See, it seems like they are restricting you, because of the purposefully confusing language. In reality, they are being restricted. I wonder what they have to gain that they would phrase it in a backwards way like this, surely AT&T has no concern for clarity when communicating with customers.

Bad show guys. Most people aren't going to notice, the rest probably won't care, but I hope there are a few people who demand more from a company they pay thousands of dollars to annually.

This is bull.  It is so obvious and transparent that AT&T is purposely making it difficult for customer to opt out. Nefarious business practice. I am fed up, wasted 20 minutes, and nothing to show for it. Bye Bye AT&T.

Former Community Manager

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5.2K Messages

12 years ago

I'm sorry you had difficulty opting out. 

 

Did you try using the website or did you call in? What happened when you tried to opt out?

 

Please let me know how I can help. 

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12 years ago

In this day and age of identity theft and issues of internet security, I can't believe that I am beiong told that my information is going to be SHARED for MARKETING unless I put the effort forward to opt out.

 

That's sleazy and underhanded, and it makes me want to quit ATT.

 

I'd rather have recieved an email that said "We've updated our security measures to protect you from phishing."

 

Un.  Real.   

 

And if I wrote what I really think I would no doubt be edited and banned from this forum.  (there would be a lot of swearing ...)

 

**** *** ATT.

 

EDIT:  WHen signed in, as per normal to pay my bill, if you search "CPNI" you know what comes up?   THIS THREAD.

 

So you are WRONG Jamileh

 

[Please keep it courteous]

  

Former Community Manager

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5.2K Messages

12 years ago

I'm sorry this issue has frustrated you so much.

 

When you are signed into the site, you're shown search results that include the AT&T forums so it's expected that this thread would appear. 

 

If you "View All Search Results" you will see the following:

 

cpni_search results.JPG

 

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Tutor

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2 Messages

12 years ago

When the link included in the 'opt out' email is clicked, it brings you to the AT&T homepage where you can buy new phones and service.  Not to an opt out option.  How did this mistake pass by your IT and web design teams? Please check all work before you sign off on it.

Former Community Manager

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5.2K Messages

12 years ago

The link should take you to a page where you can opt out, I have used it successfully in the past. 

 

You're right though, the link is currently stopping at the main page where you would normally log in to your account. 

 

I will pass this to our production team and see why this is happening. 

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