Where's The GDR2/Amber Update... Any Schedule?

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Where's The GDR2/Amber Update... Any Schedule?

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Ok ATT, when is GDR2 going to be released for the Nokia 920 (and all the other phones).

 

-taylor

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johninsj wrote:

If I can read the tea leaves...

 

Looks like the delay rumored in the WP forums (I believe it was "mid october") is accurate.
That rumor was that there was a problem identified.


>

The leaked version in the same forums works a treat and has since day 1. So I doubt there's a problem with Amber. More like, AT&T is the problem.

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johninsj wrote:

mark.f.masters wrote:

of courae it is financed.  does that stop the phone from being mine?  no.  just as with a car, if i finanace it, ot os still my car.  ultimately, at the end of the finance period, i keep the phone.  not so with next.  in next, you are forever a renter. 

 

regardless, the phone is mine and i should not be stopped by att from updating.  unless it will negatively impact their network that is. 

 


If your financed phone bricks during the update... is that AT&T's problem or yours? If you agree it's yours then you can already get the update without AT&T.


is it still under waranty?  then yes it is att's problem.  if 1 year is up, its probably mine.  and while i can do the update now, it is needlessly painful and if there is a risk of bricking, its multiplied by the multiple update process that you have to go through to get the update.  And yes, i have all the stuff to do it already prepped. 

it is also time consuming, more so than kvetching on the forum and seeing if i can annoy you which is enjoyable as a passtime. 

 

but i have two more serious concerns: a) tethering, for which i pay, seems to be really flawed with att and that update path so i am very hesitant to use it.  b) future upgrades.  it is unclear to me that the phone will be upgradeable in the future after this.  i don't think so, but i am unsure and i would like 8.1 when it is released. 

 

 

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ACE - Professor

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Fred Bilitnikoff wrote:

So when the facts don't support you, you resort to "tea leaves"?  What happens when the tea leaves fail, John?  The other guy nailed it when he called you an "AT&T apologist."


The AT&T guy said a couple weeks. Yeah, I'm not happy they're late either. Let's grab our torches and pitchforks...

 

They'll release it. Eventually.

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ACE - Professor

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piaqt wrote:

johninsj wrote:

If I can read the tea leaves...

 

Looks like the delay rumored in the WP forums (I believe it was "mid october") is accurate.
That rumor was that there was a problem identified.


>

The leaked version in the same forums works a treat and has since day 1. So I doubt there's a problem with Amber. More like, AT&T is the problem.


The leaked version isn't installed as an OTA wireless update, so nope, that doesn't actually prove that there isn't a problem doing an OTA update.

 

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mark.f.masters wrote:

johninsj wrote:

mark.f.masters wrote:

of courae it is financed.  does that stop the phone from being mine?  no.  just as with a car, if i finanace it, ot os still my car.  ultimately, at the end of the finance period, i keep the phone.  not so with next.  in next, you are forever a renter. 

 

regardless, the phone is mine and i should not be stopped by att from updating.  unless it will negatively impact their network that is. 

 


If your financed phone bricks during the update... is that AT&T's problem or yours? If you agree it's yours then you can already get the update without AT&T.


is it still under waranty?  then yes it is att's problem.  if 1 year is up, its probably mine.  and while i can do the update now, it is needlessly painful and if there is a risk of bricking, its multiplied by the multiple update process that you have to go through to get the update.  And yes, i have all the stuff to do it already prepped. 

it is also time consuming, more so than kvetching on the forum and seeing if i can annoy you which is enjoyable as a passtime. 

 

but i have two more serious concerns: a) tethering, for which i pay, seems to be really flawed with att and that update path so i am very hesitant to use it.  b) future upgrades.  it is unclear to me that the phone will be upgradeable in the future after this.  i don't think so, but i am unsure and i would like 8.1 when it is released. 

 

 


So if it's AT&T's problem, you should understand if they want an update that has no chance of bricking a phone during a wireless OTA update. yes?

 

 

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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ALL,

 

Get on the phone and call customer service and tell them your upset, or contact customer service. Tell them to give you a free upgrade to  the Lumia 1020.... Got mine for $99 dollars

 

 

If you don't complain during situations like this you accomplish nothing!

 

 

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Does anyone else see the disclaimer at the bottom of this "official statement"? The community manager's statement on this forum "don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s position, strategies or opinions." Is this an officially sanctioned AT&T company statement? It seems to me we are still left with no answers and no Amber update. Did I miss something here?
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johninsj wrote:

mark.f.masters wrote:

johninsj wrote:

mark.f.masters wrote:

of courae it is financed.  does that stop the phone from being mine?  no.  just as with a car, if i finanace it, ot os still my car.  ultimately, at the end of the finance period, i keep the phone.  not so with next.  in next, you are forever a renter. 

 

regardless, the phone is mine and i should not be stopped by att from updating.  unless it will negatively impact their network that is. 

 


If your financed phone bricks during the update... is that AT&T's problem or yours? If you agree it's yours then you can already get the update without AT&T.


is it still under waranty?  then yes it is att's problem.  if 1 year is up, its probably mine.  and while i can do the update now, it is needlessly painful and if there is a risk of bricking, its multiplied by the multiple update process that you have to go through to get the update.  And yes, i have all the stuff to do it already prepped. 

it is also time consuming, more so than kvetching on the forum and seeing if i can annoy you which is enjoyable as a passtime. 

 

but i have two more serious concerns: a) tethering, for which i pay, seems to be really flawed with att and that update path so i am very hesitant to use it.  b) future upgrades.  it is unclear to me that the phone will be upgradeable in the future after this.  i don't think so, but i am unsure and i would like 8.1 when it is released. 

 

 


So if it's AT&T's problem, you should understand if they want an update that has no chance of bricking a phone during a wireless OTA update. yes?

 

 



there's always a risk.  by that logic, they should do no updates.  furthermore, there will always be some phones under waranty, so.....

 

also, many many, the majority of service providers released over the air with no problem.  maybe att could not figure out how to strip out data sense and fm radio....

 

so yet again, AT&T appologist, your logic, as that of most appologists is lame. 

 

also, as i recall, you were going to be extremely put out.  i'm waiting to see what that means. 

 

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mark.f.masters wrote:

johninsj wrote:

mark.f.masters wrote:

johninsj wrote:

mark.f.masters wrote:

of courae it is financed.  does that stop the phone from being mine?  no.  just as with a car, if i finanace it, ot os still my car.  ultimately, at the end of the finance period, i keep the phone.  not so with next.  in next, you are forever a renter. 

 

regardless, the phone is mine and i should not be stopped by att from updating.  unless it will negatively impact their network that is. 

 


If your financed phone bricks during the update... is that AT&T's problem or yours? If you agree it's yours then you can already get the update without AT&T.


is it still under waranty?  then yes it is att's problem.  if 1 year is up, its probably mine.  and while i can do the update now, it is needlessly painful and if there is a risk of bricking, its multiplied by the multiple update process that you have to go through to get the update.  And yes, i have all the stuff to do it already prepped. 

it is also time consuming, more so than kvetching on the forum and seeing if i can annoy you which is enjoyable as a passtime. 

 

but i have two more serious concerns: a) tethering, for which i pay, seems to be really flawed with att and that update path so i am very hesitant to use it.  b) future upgrades.  it is unclear to me that the phone will be upgradeable in the future after this.  i don't think so, but i am unsure and i would like 8.1 when it is released. 

 

 


So if it's AT&T's problem, you should understand if they want an update that has no chance of bricking a phone during a wireless OTA update. yes?

 

 



there's always a risk.  by that logic, they should do no updates.  furthermore, there will always be some phones under waranty, so.....

 

also, many many, the majority of service providers released over the air with no problem.  maybe att could not figure out how to strip out data sense and fm radio....

 

so yet again, AT&T appologist, your logic, as that of most appologists is lame. 

 

also, as i recall, you were going to be extremely put out.  i'm waiting to see what that means. 

 


I am put out. Extreamly.

My logic is this - we have no idea why it was delayed. If it failed testing, then that's why. If it's all some odd scheme to force 920 owners to pay full retail to buy new lumias, then that's the dumbest plan since shutting down the government becuase... oh, wait. That's the second dumbest plan I have heard tonight.

 

I had hoped Nokia had enough pull to get this done. And that AT&T would be very open about the process.

 

Hope. It's a Demon B.

 

Anyway. Here we are. Be mad. I'm mad. Not useful in any way, but often satisfying.

 

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Scholar

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While you're asking yourself why they are purposely delaying the Lumia 920 update, see if you can figure out why they flat out denied updates for the HTC Surround and HTC Titan.  AT&T received all of the updates from HTC all the way to 7.8 but never released anything beyond 7.5 build 7740.  We were plagued with the disappearing keyboard issue the entire life of the phone as well as other bugs even though the patches were provided to them.  EVERY OTHER CARRIER that carried these devices updated them all the way through.  AT&T kept promising to release one big update to give us all the little updates.  That never happened. 

 

So if you trust AT&T to support your device with updates as long as they are provided to them, THAT is the dumbest thing I've heard tonight.  On AT&T, updates are never "late" they are strategically delayed.  If Amber/GDR2 was an issue, they wouldn't have other devices running it at all.  

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McHale72 wrote:

While you're asking yourself why they are purposely delaying the Lumia 920 update, see if you can figure out why they flat out denied updates for the HTC Surround and HTC Titan.  


I had a Titan. I put the updates on that one myself.

 

Like I said a few posts back - I wait for the update, and if it doesn't appear (or if I need some feature badly and cannot wait then accept the risk) do it myself.

 

Did you not read that post?

 

 

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The waiting continues...

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shoe wrote:
Relax

http://www.wpcentral.com/att-gdr2-coming-lumia-920-coming-weeks

You've just posted a link which reports on what a customer "service" rep said in this very forum.  It's not news if we heard it here first.  Let's see how recursive we can get!

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You know we went thru this with Windows Phone 7 and now with Windows phone 8
We all cried and complained with 7 and now with 8 hey it isn't going to
change a thing. We will get it when AT&T is ready
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