01-22-2014 12:13 PM
01-22-2014 3:36 PM
Pretty much industry standard that if it runs
3. Windows 7 Mobile
6. Palm OS
8. Windows Mobile
9 Open souce mobile code
It is a smarthphone
01-22-2014 5:59 PM
01-23-2014 8:57 AM
Is asked today about some gsm phones that run none of those operating systems or belong to those manufacturers the tech told me they were smart phones when the manufacturer calls them basic texting phones. They are made by a company called BLU. When I asked them why they are considered smart phones I was told it is because they transmit data. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't all cell phones transmit some form of data. What would a text message be if not a series of numbers in binary code. This is where they need to clarify. Instead of calling them about every phone I find, which seems to take about ten minutes per call if not longer, they could state some specifics. There are also some android phones that are not considered smart phones so I do not believe that a type of operating system is a clear enough definition.
if they run one of those OS's they are smartphones, not sue what other OS's the tech was referencing. I checked on the company you mentioned - BLU, according to their website they manufacture 2 divisions of phones, a android based series and a basic series
Android - these all smartphones
Dash Series - 6 phones
Vivo series - 1 phone
Studio Series - 5 phones
Life Series - 9 phones and 1 tablet
Feature phones - these are basic phones that would not require a data plan
Diva, DivaZ, Zoey,Jenny TV2.8,Tank
So if the phone you asked about is not in the list of the 5 feature phones that they list on their website, it is a smartphoone
Yes a basic phone has limited abilities to utilize a data stream, MMS messaging utizlies data, the built in limited access web browser can access sites, but you can't load safari or windows explorer to a basic phone or by that fact any applications at all and expect it to work.
The carriers only are concerned with designating the devices they carry, there is no ROI for any carrier to go out and look at every cellular device that is manufactured and will run on their network. Buying a device that is not sold by the carrier is the end users decision and it is up to them to research it.
01-23-2014 10:05 AM
01-23-2014 10:58 AM
Why would it be AT&T's responsibility to define what a smartphone is, especially for devices they don't carry? Shouldn't that responsibility fall on the manufacturers? Shouldn't they be getting together to decide on a standard?
If AT&T doesn't carry a device, they have to rely on information available to them from an outside source.
01-23-2014 11:15 AM
01-23-2014 11:18 AM
01-23-2014 2:29 PM
Yes the models I inquired were the tank, viva, and samba. The tech informed the tank and samba are smartphones due to their data capabilities. How ever the viva is not a smart phone, according to the AT&T tech, due to its standard dialing pad. The tech informed that again he referred to google about the phones. I take it this is due to a lack of definition for smartphones by AT&T. The employees do not even know what defines a smart phone.
the tech has 1 right - the Tank is the only basic phone of the 3 that you listed
if this was a ATT CS I am surprised they even knew what Blue and the Tank are. Until you mentioned it neither myself nor the people I work with ever heard of the brand
Can find no reference to a viva or a samba on their website
01-23-2014 2:32 PM
Oh and I as said previously the phones are stated as quick messaging phones by the manufacturer. Not smartphones.
there are 2 Tanks, one a basic messaging phone and the other an android, as I said in the previous reply, can find no reference to a viva or a samba, you sure you don't mean vivo which is a smartphone
The Tank 4.5 is definately a smartphone by Blu's definition - it runs the Android OS
01-23-2014 3:02 PM
01-23-2014 3:05 PM
01-24-2014 9:39 AM
Please don't assume I don't know what I'm talking about its insulting. Top search on bing.
Not assuming anything, I took my information from the corporations website, I do not trust e-bay or any other online sites to provide accurate information on the capabilities of an advertised device since the specifications are most likely entered by the entity trying to sell the device.
The 3 phones that you mentioned where tank, viva, and samba. I will guess that you meant Diva instead of viva, with the model numbers I went back to the corporations web site and looked at the diva that phone is definately a basic QMD device, the other device is the Samba TV Q170T, that device is no longer manufactured by Blu, it was replaced with the Samba W, which again looks like it is no longer available since the link to it's specifications is gone. The Samba TV model was apparently replaced by the Jenny TV 2.8, again all of these are basic QMD devices. You mentioned the Tank in one of your posts, there are 2 devices with this name (Tank and Tank 4.5), one of them is a Smartphone since it runs that Android OS the other is a basic QMD device.
You never mentioned what tech gave you this information, but there is a pretty good chance that they are wrong. I am agreeing with you that with the exception of the tank 4.5 they are all basic qmd devices and more then likely will not be detected as a device that requires a data plan. If you are still concerned about this why not go with one of the att gophone plans that do not require data for any device basic QMD or smartphone alike
01-24-2014 10:49 AM