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"I've heard the same rumor," he said, insisting that for now, AT&T is focused on working with Apple to get the technology stabilized, so "it's too early to talk about pricing."

From past experience I read that as a yes, we're going to charge you extra to use FaceTime
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Running that much video over the network could kill it.  There is only so much bandwidth available.  I don't see where at&t would have a a choice but to charge for it.  And if they were to allow it with the unlimited data plan, you would probably quickly get to the point of throttling and with the speed limits, you would not be pleased with the video FT would render.

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Is not a rumor is real.

 

The problem with this is the other carriers will do the same too. Is just a matter of time. 

 

We should do something and not allow him do that. It will affect his user base.

 

I'm a long term AT&T customer but I wont hesitate to change to another carrier if this materialize. 

 

Is just plain stupid I already pay for data why you have to keep adding fees to something that I already pay.

 

If your network cant support the load then upgrade it to make it able to support it. 

 

Like others say the iPhone put you in the spot stop making bad decissions because you will lose more customers.

 

There are other video calling apps for smartphone that right now areused over 3G\4G why facetime is that different that are free to use?

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It's all very easy for people to say that AT&T needs to simply upgrade their network to handle the traffic for all the data hogging things they want to do with their smartphone. They don't have to worry about bandwidth and spectrum limits, or installing new equipment, or building new towers (assuming they can find someplace that will let them build new towers), or any of the other practical things AT&T has to deal with. Simply expecting all of this to happen and not pay a penny more for it is probably not very realistic, I think.
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And is very easy for a company to add charges and limit the service and keep lying everyone around on how fast their network is.

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Regarding charges and limits, any company has the right to do that, and any customer has a right to take their business elsewhere. That's how business works, not just for AT&T, not just for any cell phone carrier, but for about any business in the world.

If AT&T isn't working out for someone and they believe that another cell carrier is different and better, then they should swap.
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Why is FaceTime in iOS 6 different from FaceTime in iOS 5?  What's the impetus for charging now?

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dwill05 you are missing the point completly.

 

The problem of adding this now is that the other carriers will do the same too like they did with Capped - "Unlimited" Data Plans.

 

It will be just a matter of time that you don't have another place to run.

 

 

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youngjm wrote:
One more thing on face time being an iPhone feature; that is true but AT&T has to provide and support the ifrastucture to support that feature. Do not think for one second that the other carriers will not do the same thing. They may start out supporting the option for free but will eventually follow. Can you say Verizon and unlimited data plans boys and girls in the same sentence! Not for very long after they got the iPhone.

It should be noted that Facetime isn't the only application that is capable of consuming lots of data due to the fact that it's a video-based app--there are other video apps that are capable of receiving video over cellular--Youtube, Netflix, and Slingplayer all come to mind...should wireless carriers start requiring a data surcharge to users who want to use such apps over cellular as well?  Granted I will concede that the one major difference between Facetime and those other apps I mentioned is that, unlike those apps, Facetime is capable of sending AND receiving video...but the point of the matter is, all of these apps are quite capable of draining your data bucket in no time.  What happens if/when Apple releases their new Maps app in iOS6?  IIRC it has features which I would imagine could result in higher data consumption compared to the current Google-based Maps app, if fully implemented...in which case, logic would dictate that AT&T should charge for using that over celluar as well--no?

 

What next--start charging iPhone users for being allowed to use iMessage over cellular to make up for lost revenue from folks dropping their text plans in lieu of using iMessage (and yes I know that iMessage isn't a complete replacement for SMS)?  Actually, AT&T already knows this--hence why they no longer offer fixed-allotment SMS plans.

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anton697 stop giving ideas to the CEO !!!!

 

Maps, youtube, hulu, netflix, etc are other good source for greddy fees.

 

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Shhh! Anton.  Don't give them any ideas!

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21stNow wrote:

Why is FaceTime in iOS 6 different from FaceTime in iOS 5?  What's the impetus for charging now?



IOS5 Facetime is wifi only, in IOS6 it becomes available on the cellular data network

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Shark Tek wrote:

Is not a rumor is real.

 

The problem with this is the other carriers will do the same too. Is just a matter of time. 

 

We should do something and not allow him do that. It will affect his user base.

 

I'm a long term AT&T customer but I wont hesitate to change to another carrier if this materialize. 

 

Is just plain stupid I already pay for data why you have to keep adding fees to something that I already pay.

 

If your network cant support the load then upgrade it to make it able to support it. 

 

Like others say the iPhone put you in the spot stop making bad decissions because you will lose more customers.

 

There are other video calling apps for smartphone that right now areused over 3G\4G why facetime is that different that are free to use?



got a link to a offical ATT released document that shows it is real? Have only seen vague references to it that really says nothing validatable

 

One way or the other you will pay for it - in added data usage costs or in usage fees for the application in itself. Now that ATT has announced their shared data plan would be interesting to see if they add the same termination of grandfathered unlimited data plans into it as Verizon did

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21stNow wrote:

Why is FaceTime in iOS 6 different from FaceTime in iOS 5?  What's the impetus for charging now?


Facetime in IOS 5 was wifi only.  Facetime in iOS 6 will allow use of celluar data.

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anton697 wrote:

youngjm wrote:
One more thing on face time being an iPhone feature; that is true but AT&T has to provide and support the ifrastucture to support that feature. Do not think for one second that the other carriers will not do the same thing. They may start out supporting the option for free but will eventually follow. Can you say Verizon and unlimited data plans boys and girls in the same sentence! Not for very long after they got the iPhone.

It should be noted that Facetime isn't the only application that is capable of consuming lots of data due to the fact that it's a video-based app--there are other video apps that are capable of receiving video over cellular--Youtube, Netflix, and Slingplayer all come to mind...should wireless carriers start requiring a data surcharge to users who want to use such apps over cellular as well?  Granted I will concede that the one major difference between Facetime and those other apps I mentioned is that, unlike those apps, Facetime is capable of sending AND receiving video...but the point of the matter is, all of these apps are quite capable of draining your data bucket in no time.  What happens if/when Apple releases their new Maps app in iOS6?  IIRC it has features which I would imagine could result in higher data consumption compared to the current Google-based Maps app, if fully implemented...in which case, logic would dictate that AT&T should charge for using that over celluar as well--no?

 

What next--start charging iPhone users for being allowed to use iMessage over cellular to make up for lost revenue from folks dropping their text plans in lieu of using iMessage (and yes I know that iMessage isn't a complete replacement for SMS)?  Actually, AT&T already knows this--hence why they no longer offer fixed-allotment SMS plans.


I don't disagree and I am not defending why but this may be a tipping point for the carriers?  With lost revenue from calls, they need to turn to data to make up for lost revnue as you have pointed out?  There is also discussion that providers of content may pay for our data use for certain services.....

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