so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

Scholar

so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

 

while i am greatfull for these boards and the help i have recieved, i have so many problems and the help around here is sometimes slow and sometimes my questions just get overlooked and the people i speak with at 611 barely understand the simple phones let alone these wm devices. 

 

i dont feel like i should have to hack it to just get things to work and it looks like if i was to flash a cooked rom i will be trading att desgned problems for hacker problems.

 

 

when was the last time you wanted to show off your cool htc/wm phone to a friend and it locked up or hanged during the demonstration? i dont even bother to show off my wm devices anymore..... 

 

i am tired of all the wm problems, i have been struggling with them since the days of the 8125 and with each new phone and os update i have had my fingers crossed hoping that "they" get it right....and they never do, or maybe its better but they add more crap and  other problems....

 

a bunch of my old apps arent compatible due who knows why, maybe the new os, maybe the bigger screen. i have general issues with getting online, then on top of that the built in opera sometimes wont connect with ie and skyfire will. these are  just  a few of my problems

 

i really dont where to turn for help, and i really just want a device that works.

 

basicaly i am unsatisfied, history has taught me that waiting for the problems to go away isnt going to pay off, should i exchange the phone for the exact same thing or return it and go for something else. i dont know much about the iphone but it seems to just work, should i go for one of those?

 

it cant be me, surely you folks here are also having issues right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Message Edited by potna on 12-27-2009 08:21:51 PM
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Teacher

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

I have rarely had my Tilt 2 lock up. I do try to reboot it about once a week. I run some SPB apps on it, such as SPB Mobile Shell and SPB Time, both of which I love. I ran older version of them on my Tilt 1 too.

 

The Tilt 2 display turns off if you hold the phone up to your ear during a call, so it won't automatically dial if your ear touches the screen. Also, there is a lock widget that I've placed on my Today screen. No butt dialing when it's locked. Smiley Very Happy

 

I haven't updated anything on the phone in the last year since I got it other than to add the custom apps I've become accustomed to using since I got my first Tilt; I replaced my Tilt 1 with the Tilt 2 in August of 2009.

 

Some ways I use it besides as a phone: Google Maps and Bing Navigator, texting and emailing, browsing Internet using IE or Opera, Outlook (Heavily rely on my Outlook for calendar and contact's notes), Voice Command dialing and Outlook lookup, wmIRC chatting, Skype, MSN IM, Scrabble, tethering to my laptop for Internet Sharing, alarm clock and timer (using custom alarms available in SPB Time), weather app (Using SPB Weather and the built-in weather app), photographs, music playing, Facebook, MySpace, and calculator.

 

Best regards, Barbara

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Scholar

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

I'm glad some users are happy with their Tilt2. Makes me wonder when there are such large differences between user experiences. We must keep in mind that the Tilt2 was released months after it came out on other carriers. That and the old processor, low ram and lack of software support made it a short term device. 

I've had it with mine. I've swapped it out three times now, so am on my fourth! All were the same. I've not rooted, for fear of killing my warranty. Yet it seems that rooting is one of the few means of getting this to work reliably. I did make some changes to remove the ATT crap ware. 

The last few months has also been extremely bad. I'm fearing that a hard reset is the only thing that will fix my issues. It's slow, doesn't play notification sounds all the time (often mms arrive with no sound or vibration, and at time not even a blinking light!). The web browser is useless, and I've tried them all. Every page seems to forever to load, than forever to scroll around the page (I have to wait forever for the page to draw each section). 

These and the extremely slow processing speed, etc, etc......really wish they would release a decent phone. The only thing I will say in its defense is the keyboard which has been great with my fat fingers, but aside from that, a total fail.....

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Professor

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

I agree there seems to be a big difference in performance and bugs from one Tilt2 to the next.  I've had mine since launch, and never had a problem that required a replacement.  There definitely seems to be inconsistancy in quality control.  I've never missed a notification, and loading of pages in Opera is fast.  Re-rendering of web pages while scrolling is a bit slow in Opera, but the downloading of the data itself is fine.

 

WM phones aren't "rooted" in the same way as Android phones.  You only need to HardSPL if you intend to flash a custom ROM, and you can always flash the stock ROM and re-SPL in order to return to factory condition.

 

A new official ROM should be available soon from ATT.  Its already been leaked on XDA, and users seem very pleased with it (faster, more stable, low memory usage).  There is still bloat, but that's expected.   You might enjoy this better than the old stock ROM, and it won't require HardSPL to flash.

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Scholar

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

I agree, I could 'reflash' the device before returning. But would you agree that I shouldn't have to bother flashing with a rom that works better, faster, without too much blotware? Really, anyone who purchases a device should expect it to work properly from day one. Especially the Tilt2. It was old when it came to ATT. 

I'm surprised they are bothering to release a new rom. I've been asking about it for months now, with no info at all from management. Why bother? I wish they could have done something about 5 months ago when I heard there was a few upgrades to either the HTC or MW side of things......

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Professor

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

Not everyone swithes/upgrades phones that often.  Some people have just bought the Tilt2 relatively recently, and will be using the phone for a year or more, so a ROM upgrade can be useful and welcome to a good amount of people.  Besides, HTC is not the only phone manufacturer which releases software updates.  Apple is constantly updating the iPhone OS in order to add functions which have been included in WM for years. 

 

Yes, I agree ATT failed on this device by bloating the original ROM and slowing it down.  Just based on comments here and elsewhere (like XDA) the Tilt2 ROM was much more laggy and bloated than the Touch Pro2 on other carriers.

 

And yes, the device should work out of the box.  As to why some of us put up with the phone despite its shortcomings:  It goes back to your previous question, about why there is such a large difference in user experiences with the Tilt2.  Much of it has to do with your expectations.  For me, I am willing to put up with some tweaking of the phone (and enjoy it, actually) in order to have a device with lots of functionality and customization.  I knew what WM was about before I bought the Tilt2, based on owning a previous WM phone.  And I still chose the Tilt2 over other options. 

 

 

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Contributor

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

i compared the internet speed to the original tilt, the i phone 3g, iphone 3gs, blackberry storm and a few others.  it is the slowest phone oput of the bunch.  actually the original tilt was the fastest.  didn't compare by the numbers on the box.  they were all side by side.  tilt2 was obviously slowest.

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Scholar

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

 


And yes, the device should work out of the box.  As to why some of us put up with the phone despite its shortcomings:  It goes back to your previous question, about why there is such a large difference in user experiences with the Tilt2.  Much of it has to do with your expectations.  For me, I am willing to put up with some tweaking of the phone (and enjoy it, actually) in order to have a device with lots of functionality and customization.  I knew what WM was about before I bought the Tilt2, based on owning a previous WM phone.  And I still chose the Tilt2 over other options. 


I've been "forced" to add tweaks just to get the device working where it should be. Before the processor was always around 75-80-%, now it's 40%. Have also been able to remove most of the blotware. Sadly I'll have to go through all this again (an intensive process) since I've noticed an update available. Really, I should't have to spend time with these issues. I love the idea of WM6.5 and before for customization (and WM7 seems the be a crappy children's phone in comparison). I would much rather spend time in enjoying the device.

 

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Professor

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

 


diagoro wrote:
Before the processor was always around 75-80-%, now it's 40%. Have also been able to remove most of the blotware. Sadly I'll have to go through all this again (an intensive process) since I've noticed an update available.

I think you're talking about program memory usage, not processor.  From what I've read about the "leaked" official ATT ROM, the memory usage is quite good without tweaking.  Of course, removing the bloatware will get you back lots of storage memory.  Crudscraper at XDA is reported to work on the new ROM, just like on the old.

 

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Tutor

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

My only issue has been the speakers for the speakerphone or music playback, I'm on my 4th phone (or 3rd Remanned) because the speakers have given out. I thought about cooking my Rom right after I purchased it but am glad I waited, as soon as the warranty runs out I will cook it though. As far as the speakers go I haven't been overly playing music files to get the result I'm getting which is why I'm taken back by how easily they go out. Been when AT&T keeps sending me refurbished replacements I will probably never get a corrected phone for this issue, if they even bother to fix it. The last phone they sent me had a scratched screen and I started to gripe about it but thought it will only be a couple of months so why bother, I was right.

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Professor

Re: so how many of you new tilt 2 owners are satisfied with your device?

You mean "flashing a custom/new ROM".   The "cook" is the person who creates the custom ROM.

 

More importantly, a phone that has been flashed with a custom ROM can have a stock ROM flashed, and re-SPL to return to factory condition for warranty purposes.

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