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Say it's not true.

So I was reading a blog on soon to be released Tegra 3 smartphones, and came across some depressing "speculation". The Rumor Is that AT&T will be getting HTC's latest flagship Smartphone. This device, the

 HTC One X, is set to be one of the first Tegra 3 smartphones available. I have been waiting on this release for some time now. When I heard that AT&T was "rumored" to be the first carrier for this device I could not have been happier, but that joy was quickly crushed. The article continued to indicate that the AT&T version of this device would not be getting the Tegra 3 (quad core +1) CPU. Instead, AT&T has opted for a dual core processor that supports their LTE network. Now, I'm all about LTE connectivity, but I'm sure that the newest Tegra hardware is going to support LTE somewhere down the road. Further more, I haven't even sniffed LTE where I live, and probably won't for a long time. It seems to me that as phone applications progress, processing power is going to be VERY important. My business utilizes many intensive productivity applications that already stress my current dual core device. HSPA+ service is sufficient for most mobile needs, but if your phone is locked up, what difference can LTE possibly make? And, it gets worse. In my reading frenzy, I also learn that AT&T is planning on throttling back bandwidth for grandfathered unlimited data costumers (me). So,  AT&T wants to make sure I have a fast data connection, throttle down my connection when I reach 3GB's of data (at LTE speed), and limit the quality of hardware in my device. Really? Instead of making long time customers like me suffer, why not just send out mailers asking us to switch carriers? I run a small company, and all of our devices are AT&T. We are under contract, and opting out would be expensive. However, with God as my witness, if all I've read is true, I will terminate my longtime relationship with AT&T and move on. I'm also betting that I won't be the only one.  Please, say the things I've read aren't true.

 

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There is NO device that is "future proof". That's the very nature of technology. Look at personal computers. Even if you build your own, and swap out processors and memory and hard drives as faster ones come along, eventually you'll need to scrap the motherboard and power supply and start from scratch when the processor architecture changes. You can't use that same motherboard that housed your Celeron processor and put a Core i7 in there. Eventually, once AT&T has blanketed the whole country in HSPA, they'll turn off GSM and force everyone with 2G phones to upgrade. Those of us who've had cell phones for a while remember when AT&T turned off their TDMA & analog networks.

 

As others have said, a dual-core phone that supports LTE will be more useful to AT&T (from a marketing perspective alone) as it ramps up its LTE network than a quint-core phone that supports HSPA+. And really, nobody except for tech bloggers running benchmarks on these phones are going to notice the difference. Look at the recent A5X & Tegra 3 comparisons. Although there are some things the Tegra 3 does faster than the A5X, for graphics the dual-core A5X smokes the quad-core Tegra 3.

 


tidecrush wrote:

 I realize that, for now, dual core is sufficient to run most available apps. My biggest problem is trying to find a device that is future proof. I remember my first real computer (not counting the Tandy, Apple 2, or Commodore 64) was a Gateway with a single core 333 Mhz Celeron processor. Seemed fast at the time. The problem was that technology proliferated VERY quickly. That machine was basically obsolete in less than two years. It's the same with smart phones. A new device requires a two year contract, at least to get a discounted price. Like it or not, quad core smart phones are the future. Why would developers continue to write apps for old technology? Even Windows Phone is stepping into the multi core mobile age with Windows Phone 8, which will compliment the new Windows 8 OS. People like me who use their phone for business and pleasure should be excited about the possibilities that are coming to the table. Even if no apps require multiple cores to run, what about multiple apps running simultaneously. I know my Android loves to keep a gazillion apps open constantly. My Tegra 2 processor already struggles just trying to keep up. Anyway, maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't get why my concerns are so easily dismissed. Just remember that a single core desktop CPU makes a great boat anchor, and time never stands still. 




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"Future proof" was definitely a poor choice of words in my earlier post. Still, I don't want to sign a two year contract for a device that is already becoming outdated. I'm also not sure the A5X is a fair comparison given that it incorporates 4 graphics cores, and is to big to be used in a smartphone. Maybe the A6 that is being developed for the theoretical iPhone 5 (which is rumored to be quad core) will provide a more viable comparator. With development of an LTE modem that is compatible with the Tegra 3 already underway, maybe AT&T will be on board soon. Surely they will get on board with the new Galaxy S3, which has been reported to ship (eventually) with LTE and HSPA integrated on an Exynos quad-core chip. Sorry for obsessing, but this stuff gets me excited.   

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tidecrush wrote:

"Future proof" was definitely a poor choice of words in my earlier post. Still, I don't want to sign a two year contract for a device that is already becoming outdated. I'm also not sure the A5X is a fair comparison given that it incorporates 4 graphics cores, and is to big to be used in a smartphone. Maybe the A6 that is being developed for the theoretical iPhone 5 (which is rumored to be quad core) will provide a more viable comparator. With development of an LTE modem that is compatible with the Tegra 3 already underway, maybe AT&T will be on board soon. Surely they will get on board with the new Galaxy S3, which has been reported to ship (eventually) with LTE and HSPA integrated on an Exynos quad-core chip. Sorry for obsessing, but this stuff gets me excited.   



current technology is outdatedabout 30 days after it hits the general market. If you want to stay ahead of the curve pay full retail and upgrade about every 6 months. Used to forklift my personal gaming pc every  18 months, now I do it every 8 months to stay even with the curve.

 

No matter what new technology is on the market, there is always tech in the pipline that release and make it outdated in 90 days - watch the LCD/LED market over the next 3 - 6 months Smiley Happy

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I would like it if HTC allowed for two versions of the One X, an LTE version with Snapdragon, and an HSPDA+ version with a Tegra 3. They're defintely releasing a global version but it would be nice to get it directly throught ATT. HTC is already going against their own goal of brand unity with a special version for ATT, so what's another, haha. To the commenters saying that quad core isn't useful - we were saying that two years ago about dual core phones. When I'm locked to a phone for 20 months, I want to make sure I have something that will still run decently down the road. Also, the tegra chip has the advantage of having a companion core for basic tasks, such that we won't see high battery consumption.

 

I know that the snapdragon is fabricated at a smaller process (22nm) so that should be fine on the power consumption front. I'd like to see comparisons between the One X global version and the ATT version.

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Relax. People who have tested both versions have reported that the 2-core version performs better than the 4-core. Relax guys! (Now about the downgrade from 32 GB to 16, without an SD slot, THAT's something to be annoyed about.)
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