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Is NOKIA dwindling from the ATT ranks??

To me, by far, Nokia has been the very best phone that I have owned, and I've owned a few Nokias over the years. What's up with ATT??? I looked at the list of Nokia's offered by ATT and I wouldn't waste a penny on 3 out of the 4 that are listed. Is ATT doing away with carrying Nokia products and WHY???? I may have to buy elsewhere if I want another Nokia in the future, it seems. Smiley Indifferent 

 




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To me, by far, Nokia has been the very best phone that I have owned, and I've owned a few Nokias over the years. What's up with ATT??? I looked at the list of Nokia's offered by ATT and I wouldn't waste a penny on 3 out of the 4 that are listed. Is ATT doing away with carrying Nokia products and WHY???? I may have to buy elsewhere if I want another Nokia in the future, it seems. Smiley Indifferent 

 




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Yes.

 

Nokia has made both my best (Nokia 9300) and worst (Nokia N97) phones.

 

I spoke with an AT&T Business representative at a trade show and there myriad reason why AT&T doesn't offer the high-end Nokia devices.

 

From the marketing standpoint...Nokia is notorious for not making product roll-out dates spoiling the timing of advertisements as well as having such buggy software on initial release that there are many returns by disillusioned customers, not to mention customer service calls--something that spoils the already wafer-thin margin on phones.

 

As Nokia is by far the largest cell phone manufacturer in the world, they are overly proud of their products and do not discount as much as their competition.

 

Third-party developers have real problems getting their goods to market to support the upper-end devices for the reasons mentioned above, so there is less software developed for them.

 

These are just a few of the reasons...

Yes.

 

Nokia has made both my best (Nokia 9300) and worst (Nokia N97) phones.

 

I spoke with an AT&T Business representative at a trade show and there myriad reason why AT&T doesn't offer the high-end Nokia devices.

 

From the marketing standpoint...Nokia is notorious for not making product roll-out dates spoiling the timing of advertisements as well as having such buggy software on initial release that there are many returns by disillusioned customers, not to mention customer service calls--something that spoils the already wafer-thin margin on phones.

 

As Nokia is by far the largest cell phone manufacturer in the world, they are overly proud of their products and do not discount as much as their competition.

 

Third-party developers have real problems getting their goods to market to support the upper-end devices for the reasons mentioned above, so there is less software developed for them.

 

These are just a few of the reasons...

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Thanks, rdcinhou. What would be a good suggestion for a NEXT phone since Nokia will most likely NOT be a choice...EXCLUDING LG.

 




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Thanks, rdcinhou. What would be a good suggestion for a NEXT phone since Nokia will most likely NOT be a choice...EXCLUDING LG.

 




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I'm so disillusioned with my N97 after having spent SO much money for it, I can't rationalize trying to find a replacement.

 

My 9300 was a *GREAT* platform--I had a whole suite of mature and affordable applications (spreadsheets, relational database, multiple e-book readers, a BASIC interpretter, an OPL compiler, file compression & encryption and it received Blackberry Internet Service "push" email).  It made phone calls with ease and was a great speakerphone.  Since there were literally two processors in it--one dedicated to phone use, you could literally work multiple simultaneous applications while in a call. The keyboard was spacious!  I used the heck out of it.

 

The N97 suffers from lack-of-useful-apps, poor call quality, clumbsy multi-tasking hamstrung by the pittance of C: drive memory.

 

Worse yet...as a converged device, the GPS hardly works (loses fixes, too slow to give turn-by-turn in time), the flash pictures on the camera are washed-out and if you take too many photos the image browser bombs out!

 

At the present time, when my N97 finally becomes so unstable that I can't do basic things with it, I think I'll buy a new battery and start using my 9300 again.  The old Lithium battery for it started swelling just after my N97 arrived--I think I broke its heart!

 

 

I'm so disillusioned with my N97 after having spent SO much money for it, I can't rationalize trying to find a replacement.

 

My 9300 was a *GREAT* platform--I had a whole suite of mature and affordable applications (spreadsheets, relational database, multiple e-book readers, a BASIC interpretter, an OPL compiler, file compression & encryption and it received Blackberry Internet Service "push" email).  It made phone calls with ease and was a great speakerphone.  Since there were literally two processors in it--one dedicated to phone use, you could literally work multiple simultaneous applications while in a call. The keyboard was spacious!  I used the heck out of it.

 

The N97 suffers from lack-of-useful-apps, poor call quality, clumbsy multi-tasking hamstrung by the pittance of C: drive memory.

 

Worse yet...as a converged device, the GPS hardly works (loses fixes, too slow to give turn-by-turn in time), the flash pictures on the camera are washed-out and if you take too many photos the image browser bombs out!

 

At the present time, when my N97 finally becomes so unstable that I can't do basic things with it, I think I'll buy a new battery and start using my 9300 again.  The old Lithium battery for it started swelling just after my N97 arrived--I think I broke its heart!

 

 

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WOW!! That's a heck of a lot that a little phone can do!! I'd never use all of that! I suppose you're right in wanting to get a new battery for your 9300...the poor thing. I guess I should just use my Nokia til it won't function anymore and hope for the best.

 

Thanks!! Smiley Happy

 




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WOW!! That's a heck of a lot that a little phone can do!! I'd never use all of that! I suppose you're right in wanting to get a new battery for your 9300...the poor thing. I guess I should just use my Nokia til it won't function anymore and hope for the best.

 

Thanks!! Smiley Happy

 




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That's what I'd do too since the 9300 was such a great device for you.  I still use my 6820 every day - the only reason I upgraded to the E70 was a security change by Yahoo for POP e-mail that my 6820 couldn't support. Smiley Sad

 

And I love my SE - it has not turned out to be flimsy (for me anyway - I'm pretty careful with my phones) - but it doesn't have the build quality/sturdy feel that the Nokias do, so I still prefer a Nokia if they'll finally come out with one that is well suited for my needs.  I don't care whether at&t picks it up or not, as I'll buy non-branded regardless. 

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That's what I'd do too since the 9300 was such a great device for you.  I still use my 6820 every day - the only reason I upgraded to the E70 was a security change by Yahoo for POP e-mail that my 6820 couldn't support. Smiley Sad

 

And I love my SE - it has not turned out to be flimsy (for me anyway - I'm pretty careful with my phones) - but it doesn't have the build quality/sturdy feel that the Nokias do, so I still prefer a Nokia if they'll finally come out with one that is well suited for my needs.  I don't care whether at&t picks it up or not, as I'll buy non-branded regardless. 

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Edited by turbo46032 on Sep 27, 2010 at 9:21:05 PM

Nokia is putting out way too many phones for their own good.

 

What is hurting them, tho, is the lack of a 'credible' smartphone. Sure, my e71x is smart enough, and cost me $50, but it ain't no iPhone. Somehow, Symbian is not in the same league as iPhone and Android.

 

Having said this, Symbian may be the best and worst thing that could happen. It is very easy to program with Qt (I do develop mobile software for a living, and I'd rather deal with Qt than with Android's chaos central or Apple's secretive stuff). Their build quality is very good, the hardware does what it's supposed to, and yet no luck. Same deal with RIM, for some reason. At the same time, thanks to the pricing of devices, the price difference between it and a 'credible' is very little...

 

Nokia will have one chance to make it up with the N8. If they mess it up, they'll be another Ericsson before too long.

Nokia is putting out way too many phones for their own good.

 

What is hurting them, tho, is the lack of a 'credible' smartphone. Sure, my e71x is smart enough, and cost me $50, but it ain't no iPhone. Somehow, Symbian is not in the same league as iPhone and Android.

 

Having said this, Symbian may be the best and worst thing that could happen. It is very easy to program with Qt (I do develop mobile software for a living, and I'd rather deal with Qt than with Android's chaos central or Apple's secretive stuff). Their build quality is very good, the hardware does what it's supposed to, and yet no luck. Same deal with RIM, for some reason. At the same time, thanks to the pricing of devices, the price difference between it and a 'credible' is very little...

 

Nokia will have one chance to make it up with the N8. If they mess it up, they'll be another Ericsson before too long.

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turbo46032 wrote:

Nokia is putting out way too many phones for their own good.

 

What is hurting them, tho, is the lack of a 'credible' smartphone. Sure, my e71x is smart enough, and cost me $50, but it ain't no iPhone. Somehow, Symbian is not in the same league as iPhone and Android.

 

Having said this, Symbian may be the best and worst thing that could happen. It is very easy to program with Qt (I do develop mobile software for a living, and I'd rather deal with Qt than with Android's chaos central or Apple's secretive stuff). Their build quality is very good, the hardware does what it's supposed to, and yet no luck. Same deal with RIM, for some reason. At the same time, thanks to the pricing of devices, the price difference between it and a 'credible' is very little...

 

Nokia will have one chance to make it up with the N8. If they mess it up, they'll be another Ericsson before too long.


I strongly agree. The N8 looks absolutely stunning - I may even want to get it. I've never owned any Nokia phones in my life before, so this one would probably give them a good reputation from me if I were to get it.

 

I bet that the N8 will be a hit. As SOON as it's released.

 

Finally - a phone we've been waiting for.

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turbo46032 wrote:

Nokia is putting out way too many phones for their own good.

 

What is hurting them, tho, is the lack of a 'credible' smartphone. Sure, my e71x is smart enough, and cost me $50, but it ain't no iPhone. Somehow, Symbian is not in the same league as iPhone and Android.

 

Having said this, Symbian may be the best and worst thing that could happen. It is very easy to program with Qt (I do develop mobile software for a living, and I'd rather deal with Qt than with Android's chaos central or Apple's secretive stuff). Their build quality is very good, the hardware does what it's supposed to, and yet no luck. Same deal with RIM, for some reason. At the same time, thanks to the pricing of devices, the price difference between it and a 'credible' is very little...

 

Nokia will have one chance to make it up with the N8. If they mess it up, they'll be another Ericsson before too long.


I strongly agree. The N8 looks absolutely stunning - I may even want to get it. I've never owned any Nokia phones in my life before, so this one would probably give them a good reputation from me if I were to get it.

 

I bet that the N8 will be a hit. As SOON as it's released.

 

Finally - a phone we've been waiting for.

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I am also a long time Nokia fan and wonder about the comment of their phones being buggy.  Yes, if you got an e71x from AT&T it was definately buggy and had all kinds of AT&T buyware on it.  Mine lasted 2 weeks before it went back to the store where I purchased it from.  I can proudly say that my non-branded e71 works awesome.  No buyware and not a single dropped call yet.  I don't know where the bugs were on my phone as I never did witness one.

I am also a long time Nokia fan and wonder about the comment of their phones being buggy.  Yes, if you got an e71x from AT&T it was definately buggy and had all kinds of AT&T buyware on it.  Mine lasted 2 weeks before it went back to the store where I purchased it from.  I can proudly say that my non-branded e71 works awesome.  No buyware and not a single dropped call yet.  I don't know where the bugs were on my phone as I never did witness one.

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My perception has also been that the E71 (non-subsidized) was a successful device for Nokia - owners who bought the non-branded version seem to have been pretty overwhelmingly pleased.  The E71x is another story - but that can be said about any of the branded Nokias, especially when compared to a non-branded version.

 

At least in my opinion, where Nokia's failings are as a smartphone have been in the calendar and e-mail functionality.  Hopefully those shortcomings will be corrected in the new Symbian/with the N8 and E7.

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My perception has also been that the E71 (non-subsidized) was a successful device for Nokia - owners who bought the non-branded version seem to have been pretty overwhelmingly pleased.  The E71x is another story - but that can be said about any of the branded Nokias, especially when compared to a non-branded version.

 

At least in my opinion, where Nokia's failings are as a smartphone have been in the calendar and e-mail functionality.  Hopefully those shortcomings will be corrected in the new Symbian/with the N8 and E7.

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

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*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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