HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

I've now seen two different side by side comparisons with the Samsung Skyrocket,

Other than the better display and build quality on the Vivid, the Skyrocket beats it on:

1.) Benchmark tests
2.) Download speeds
3.) Battery life

Disappointing!

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Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

How can you judge a performance of a device that you've never owned?  Benchmarks??  Give me a break! It's a phone, not a gaming console.  Download speeds are never consistant, such is the nature of the beast.  Run several concurrent speed test on your phone and see how much reported speeds can fluctuate.

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Professor

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

I have seen download speed tests that the Vivid has won. And according to the at&t specs, the Vivid wins on battery life. I really think they are pretty close, and real world experience will vary between people.
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karnivore72 wrote:

How can you judge a performance of a device that you've never owned?  Benchmarks??  Give me a break! It's a phone, not a gaming console.


I guess, if all you are interested in is phone usage, you should probably get something cheaper.

 

PS - LOTS of complaints about download speeds over on XDA-Developers' HTC Vivid Forum.

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Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

I hang out at XDA all the time so I've read some of the complaints.  That said, when are these speeds consistent?  As I said before, running concurrent speed tests will always yield varied results, it just can't be consistent.

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Professor

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

1)  You have to be really careful looking at benchmarks.   The most popular benchmark app (Quadrant) will only run at the phone's native resolution.  The resolution on the Vivid is higher than the Skyrocket (540x960 versus 480x800).  So you aren't comparing apples to apples.  The Vivid is displaying many more pixels per frame, and will yield lower FPS for that reason.  I've seen this mistake made frequently when comparing smartphone benchmarks.  Just did a quick search for articles comparing the 2 phones, and this one for instance is using Quadrant to compare benchmarks, which is an incorrect comparison.

http://androidcommunity.com/att-lte-shootout-htc-vivid-vs-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-20111107/

 

Also, as others have mentioned, benchmarks have little correlation to real life performance. The same article above mentions that the Skyrocket is laggy in the TouchWiz UI, despite being better specs on paper.  What's that about?  Would you rather have better benchmarks numbers, or better real life performace in the phone OS (which you use all the time)?  I'd pick the latter.

 

2)  Download speeds are ridiculously difficult to measure consistantly.  On my HSPA+ phone, I can get test results that vary drastically from less than 1 Mpbs to over 4 Mbps in a short period of time.  Plus, hardware is seldom the bottleneck.  I'm not up to date on what LTE speeds the chipsets on the 2 phones are capable of.  But its probably much higher than AT&T's network can supply.  For instance, my phone's chipset is capable of 14.4 Mbps on HSPA+, while AT&T 's HSPA+network is "potentially" capable of 6 Mbps at best.  The network is the bottleneck.

 

3)  It seems like the battery on the Skyrocket is the winner, at least on paper in terms of the battery's rated mAh (1850 versus 1620).  But if they both get you through a day with moderate usage, then charge overnight (as most smartphones will), then IMO its not a big deal.

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Professor

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance


DUTCH VanAtlanta wrote:

karnivore72 wrote:

How can you judge a performance of a device that you've never owned?  Benchmarks??  Give me a break! It's a phone, not a gaming console.


I guess, if all you are interested in is phone usage, you should probably get something cheaper.

 

PS - LOTS of complaints about download speeds over on XDA-Developers' HTC Vivid Forum.


I think karnivore72 is commenting on the fact that benchmarks are not an good measure of real world performance.  They are a good measure of that phone's ability to . . . run that benchmark app.

 

If you look at website's which compare PC performance, you will find them running a huge number of different benchmark programs.  Several game based benchmarks (which are usually graphically intensive), as well as ones that stress the CPU or the RAM.  Sometimes as many as 10 different benchmarks, in order to test the computers in a wide array of situations as possible, and simulate a variety of real world applications.  Even so, the correlation to real life performance is highly debatable. 

 

I bring this up (about benchmarking computers), because what is a smartphone, but a tiny computer?  So the typical practice of running one smartphone  benchmark (usually Quadrant) and saying the phone is "better" based on that, is ridiculous.

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Mentor

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

I just bought one..
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Mentor

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

I love it, it's better than my Samsung Captivate and was only $99 for upgrade.
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Scholar

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

I've had my Vivid since it was introduced in Dec. 2011.

 

It is an amazing smartphone and does many things well. 

 

Battery life is a little disappointing when using apps (data and display intensive)...I charge 3-4 time a day when in heavy use.

 

The phone function doesn't take much power--I've talked for over an hour and didn't seem to take any "green" off of the battery bargraph.

 

I came from the Nokia N97 (Symbian 60 v 5 OS) and it does seem that Android is a bit more primitive in many respects to the highly-integrated features on that smartphone.

 

So far, compared to other Android phones that other people have, my Vivid impresses the heck out of them.

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Scholar

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

Benchmark tests an download speeds the vivid wins. The only reason the skyrockets battery wins is because it doest have ICS. The vivid i own with sense 3.6 and OS 4.0.3 has much better video, picture and gaming quality than the Skyrocket. Without being in a LTE area, currently connected to HSDPA i am recieving 6.4 mbps. The phone is 66% faster than it was on "GB" The new outlook on the vivid with ICS is amazing. Very much more responsive than any other phone i have ever used or bought. These pages about the phone, that is statistics, not reality.
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Mentor

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How do you have 4.0.3? I just got 3.26 lawst week

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Scholar

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

ICS 4.0.3 and sense version 3.6
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Scholar

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

You must be talking about your software number.
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Mentor

Re: HTC Vivid - Disappointing Performance

hmm.. ok, I have the same but when it updated, it said that it was updating to 3.26.something. I have a couple apps misbehaving, Tumblr shuts down when I view the dashboard sometimes. Everyone uses Gmail, that is crashing on me when I view email from http://blogtrottr.com that contain images. I subscribe to blogs in email including tumblr using blogtrottr.

I also found it confusing that on restart or startup the phone says that it is updating android. I called HTC support and the guy there said that was normal part of startup that used to be hidden.

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