Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

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Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

I don't care when Froyo is released officially for the Captivate (within reason), but somebody needs to take responsibility and give the Captivate owners some kind of progress update for the release.  With all the "Froyo for Galaxy S" rumors flying around, I have chosen not to believe anyone unless it comes straight from AT&T or Samsung.


So, AT&T and Samsung, how about giving your deserving customers an idea of what is going on, and if Froyo is actually still in the works?


A little communication goes a long way. I'm not asking for much here.

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Re: Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

An actual timetable for a Samsung Galaxy S phone on a cellular carrier within the USA has been released.

http://www.androidcentral.com/froyo-update-schedule-us-cellular-android-phones-released
Probably from mobile, maybe. Smiley Happy
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Re: Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

What ticks me off, and others, is that both Samsung and AT&T to some degree have promised the update as soon as September.  Here it is, January, and now it most likely won't be until March, if at all?

 

People wouldn't be upset if they didn't falsely get our hopes up...if that was their way of pacifying the masses until they're good and ready, shame on them.

 

Also, if they plan on skipping 2.2 for a newer release then tell us!  Keeping all their customers in the dark about their flagship Android phone is pathetic.

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Re: Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

Some more good news comes to Canadian owners of the Samsung Captivate, as Rogers has finally rolled out Android 2.2 updates to their customers. The Froyo update comes through the Kies software, so if you don't have that package installed already, you may want to jump on that beforehand. Does this mean that those of us in the states on the AT&T Captivate might see our 2.2 launch soon? Well, we won't hold our breath- that's for sure.

 

clowns

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Re: Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

I'm not sure the validity of this post, but it may offer more insight.  This is a post from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=913045

 

Hello,

I’m going to step across the NDAs and explain the issues behind the Android Froyo update to Samsung Galaxy S phones in the United States. I think most of you have come to this realization yourself now: the withholding of the Froyo update is a largely political one, not a technological one: Froyo runs quite well on Galaxy S phones, as those of you that have run leaked updates may have noticed.

To explain the political situation, first, a primer on how phone firmware upgrades work for carriers. When a carrier decides to sell a phone, a contract is usually written between the phone manufacturer and the carrier. In this contract, the cost of updates (to the carrier) is usually outlined. Updates are usually broken into several types: critical updates, maintenance updates, and feature updates. Critical updates are those that resolve a critical bug in the phone, such as the phone overheating. Maintenance updates involve routine updates to resolve bugs and other issues reported by the carrier. Finally, feature updates add some new feature in software that wasn’t present before. Critical updates are usually free, maintenance updates have some maintenance fee associated with them, and feature updates are usually costly.
In the past, most phone updates would mainly consist of critical and maintenance updates. Carriers almost never want to incur the cost of a feature update because it is of little benefit to them, adds little to the device, and involves a lot of testing on the carrier end. Android has changed the playing field, however – since the Android Open Source Project is constantly being updated, and that information being made widely available to the public, there is pressure for the phone to be constantly updated with the latest version of Android. With most manufacturers, such as HTC, Motorola, etc. This is fine and considered a maintenance upgrade. Samsung, however, considers it a feature update, and requires carriers to pay a per device update fee for each incremental Android update.

Now, here’s where the politics come in: most U.S. carriers aren’t very happy with Samsung’s decision to charge for Android updates as feature updates, especially since they are essentially charging for the Android Open Source Project’s efforts, and the effort on Samsung’s end is rather minimal. As a result of perhaps, corporate collusion, all U.S. carriers have decided to refuse to pay for the Android 2.2 update, in hopes that the devaluation of the Galaxy S line will cause Samsung to drop their fees and give the update to the carriers. The situation has panned out differently in other parts of the world, but this is the situation in the United States.

Some of you might have noticed Verion’s Fascinate updated, but without 2.2 : This is a result of a maintenance agreement Samsung must honor combined with Verizon’s unwillingness to pay the update fees.
In short, Android 2.2 is on hold for Galaxy S phones until the U.S. carriers and Samsung reach a consensus.

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Re: Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

What is this update and will it work on an SGH-I897?

 

http://pages.samsung.com/ca/froyo/English/

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I am extremely dissappointed with the progress of this update.  Every other major carrier has been rolling out this update. In fact, I'm extremely dissappointed with ATT wireless in general. I live in the city of Chicago and have had lots of dropped calls. Sometimes, my phone can't get even get a signal. I just get that Do not Enter icon. When my contract is up, I'm definately leaving ATT.

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Re: Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?

An official Samsung Rep showed up on XDA's website and invited questions. Almost all questions were regarding the lack of froyo updates. He failed to answer a single question. most of his treads are now locked, but here is a link to one that is still open, also a link to his profile, so you can send him private messages:

 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954871&page=12

 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3645887

 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954896

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Re: Froyo on Captivate - Is it too much to ask for a progress update, AT&T/Samsung?


jhid wrote:

An official Samsung Rep showed up on XDA's website and invited questions. Almost all questions were regarding the lack of froyo updates. He failed to answer a single question. most of his treads are now locked, but here is a link to one that is still open, also a link to his profile, so you can send him private messages:

 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954871&page=12

 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=3645887

 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=954896


Why would anyone believe this joker is for real?

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