4G Network Indicator

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4G Network Indicator

I have an iPhone 4S and updated to software release 5.1 yesterday. One of the features that was added for this version is for the network indicator to show "4G" when connected to AT&T HSPA or HSDPA network. Is the AT&T 3G MicroCell an HSPA network because my phone identifies 4G when connected to the MicroCell. There is no discernible difference in running a speed test on either an iPhone 4S or the iPhone 4.

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Guru

Re: 4G Network Indicator

I updated my wife iPhone 4 to iOS 5.1 today.  If I turn wifi off it shows the M-Cell as 3G.

 

Go figure.

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Professor

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Microcells only operate on 3G.  There is currently no 4G microcell on the market.

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Guru

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Right....but I think the point is why does the original poster's iPhone say 4G when it's connected to his MicroCell?

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Tutor

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Yes...still identifying as on the Microcell and 4G
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Tutor

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The IOS 5.1 feature that indicates a 4G network is only suppose to be applicable to the iPhone 4s and not the "4" 

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ACE - Master

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Correct. My daughter's iPhone is a 4S and the indicator does in fact say 4G. We just checked her speeds and she is getting 3.06Mbps down and 0.62Mbps up, steady thru our MicroCell.
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Re: 4G Network Indicator

How fast is your home broadband connection? HSPA has a max of 7.2 Mbps, while HSPA+ which is only available on the iPhone 4S and now displayed as "4G" has a max of 14.4 Mbps. If you're only getting 3.06 Mbps, it would lead me to believe either your broadband connection is limiting the higher speeds of HSPA+, or perhaps AT&T is limiting the download speeds as they do the uploads.
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Guru

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My ISP  is 35/35 mb/s.  I actually get 35 mb/s down 43 mb/s up 24/7/365 (Verizon FiOS).

 

My wife's iPhone is a 4, but a friend was here last night with her 4S.  It too only showed 3G on our M.C.  Both iPhones have iOS 5.1.   I didn't run a speedtest on the friend's 4S  but my wife's 4 sees ~2 mb/s down and .6 mb/s up.

 

If I turn wifi back on, the iPhone 4 tests at about 20 mb/s up and down connected to the same LAN and router as is the M.C.

 

So I'm still puzzled why the OP is seeing 4G displayed when connected to his MC but I'm not losing any sleep over it.  Smiley Happy

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jefe wrote:

...I didn't run a speedtest on the friend's 4S  but my wife's 4 sees ~2 mb/s down and .6 mb/s up...


Just confirming that you are seeing .6 mb/s up (600 Kbps) on the MicroCell? Remember over a year ago when this was limited to 56 Kbps? As late as last November I was seeing around 175 Kbps, but now I'm only getting around 100 Kbps.

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Guru

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Ooops.  Right you are. 

 

I just ran the test again and got 2.24 mb/s up and .10 down.  I scratched my head and looked back at previous results.  What I read as .6 was .06 mb/s.

 

Y'know the Simon & Garfunkel classic "The Boxer?"  My favorite line:  "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest...."

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ACE - Master

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Wireless_Guru wrote:
How fast is your home broadband connection? HSPA has a max of 7.2 Mbps, while HSPA+ which is only available on the iPhone 4S and now displayed as "4G" has a max of 14.4 Mbps. If you're only getting 3.06 Mbps, it would lead me to believe either your broadband connection is limiting the higher speeds of HSPA+, or perhaps AT&T is limiting the download speeds as they do the uploads.

My DSL connection is a sustained 19-20Mbps down and 1.0Mbps up. My suspicion is that AT&T is limiting the download. Doesn't seem to be a problem for us though but useage will vary depending on how one uses their phone.

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MicroCell Technical Guide by Otto Pylot

"Quick Tips: My Microcell Doesn't Work"


I am not an AT&T employee. For additional help, please send a PM to ATTMobilityCare

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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Tutor

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A lot of good feedback on this post. I am however still puzzled as to why my iPhone 4s indicates 4G if this is only suppose to be on HSPA + networks and as far as I know the 3G MC is not one of these. Speeds obtained while WiFi is off are ~1.8Mb down and ~ 0.14Mb up. My broadband connection far exceeds that and on WiFi I get ~25Mb down and ~4.8mb up on the 4s iPhone. My subscribed broadband connection is rated at 30Mb down and 5Mb up.
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ACE - Master

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My understanding is that HSPA+ is "backwards compatible" in the sense that it really isn't true 4G (LTE) but the iPhone 4S registers that speed as "4G". That way AT&T can say they have 4G speeds when in actuality it is "almost 4G". I'm hoping that when AT&T does indeed have true 4G, the MicroCell will still be able to lock on but you will only get the HSPA+ speeds and thus still be useable. In your case, it certainly does seem that AT&T is limiting your speed. Have you checked your speeds on your devices other than your phone. I always get a consistent 19Mbps down and 1.0Mbps up on my any of my WiFi devices but stay fairly consistent at 3.06Mbps down on the iPhone 4S. I haven't checked the phone outside away from the MicroCell. Maybe the MicroCell is the limiting factor?
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MicroCell Technical Guide by Otto Pylot

"Quick Tips: My Microcell Doesn't Work"


I am not an AT&T employee. For additional help, please send a PM to ATTMobilityCare

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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Scholar

Re: 4G Network Indicator


djh26 wrote:
A lot of good feedback on this post. I am however still puzzled as to why my iPhone 4s indicates 4G if this is only suppose to be on HSPA + networks and as far as I know the 3G MC is not one of these. Speeds obtained while WiFi is off are ~1.8Mb down and ~ 0.14Mb up. My broadband connection far exceeds that and on WiFi I get ~25Mb down and ~4.8mb up on the 4s iPhone. My subscribed broadband connection is rated at 30Mb down and 5Mb up.

The issue is one of symantics.  The international committee which "owns" the 4G name caved and allowed HSPA+ to be defined as "4G"  AT&T has been pressuring Apple ever since to change the display on your iPhone.

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