Why doesnt Uverse offer the NHL Network when it carries NFL NBA AND MLB?

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Why doesnt Uverse offer the NHL Network when it carries NFL NBA AND MLB?

 
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halk wrote:
This is incorrect. AT&T had the NHL Network and cancelled it a couple days before the start of the 2011/2012 season. I had just switched over from my cable company after verifying that the NHL was part of the Uverse lineup. I caught all the preseason games and the day of the final preseason game around October 2, 2011, they ran a banner across the screen announcing they were cancelling the NHL Network at midnight. They have never had it since and I went back to my original cable company since the day the NHL was dropped. They have lost thousands of customers in the U.S.A. but they refuse to bring the NHL back and I spent months calling everyone at Uverse including the president's office.

When weighing the cost for placing a channel on a lower package AT&T has to look at the number of subscribers and determine whether or not the cost works for them, if it doesn't, they won't add/change the channel.  While hockey maybe popular, losing "thousands" of customer is probably cheaper than paying the network for MILLIONS of customers, many who probably wouldn't watch it.  ESPN is the most expensive channel on the air and for each subscriber AT&T pays ESPN over $4.00 per subscriber that has access to it.  Since it's available in every package except for UBasic and UFamily, it costs AT&T close $225 million per year.  NHL's highest rating was on NBC Sports Network, game 3 of the Stanely cup and it only drew just shy of 4 million viewers. That's just a few hundred thousand less than the number of UVerse subscribers. Now figure that is across 13 major cable providers that's less than 300,000 viewers on average per network.  Last count DirectTV had 20,110,000 subscribers, Dish has around 14,000,000 subscribers, Comcast has around 50,000,000 subscribers, AT&T has around 5,000,000 subscribers.  When you look at those numbers, NHL network and the number of viewers isn't that high. ESPN averages 115,000,000 viewers per month.  That's a far greater number than an NHL game.  The majority of hockey games draw less than 1,000,000 viewers.  Since the majority of NHL games are on either the RSNs or NBCSN, the NHL Network loses out on a lot of viewers if they game they are showing isn't a major rivalary game between the higher profile teams. 

 

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THERE ARE ALSO MANY "TALK" SHOWS AND OTHER INFORMATIONAL SHOWS AVAILABLE ON THIS NETWORK TO KEEP UP WITH THE SPORT IN GENERAL.  WISH THEY WOULD OFFER THIS CHANNEL.  CONSIDER MOVING BACK TO COMCAST!

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WHY DON'T THEY JUST ADD IT TO A HIGHER TIER, LIKE U300?

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mypreciousmoments wrote:

THERE ARE ALSO MANY "TALK" SHOWS AND OTHER INFORMATIONAL SHOWS AVAILABLE ON THIS NETWORK TO KEEP UP WITH THE SPORT IN GENERAL.  WISH THEY WOULD OFFER THIS CHANNEL.  CONSIDER MOVING BACK TO COMCAST!


There is no need for your shouting (the use of all capital letters). That is not going to change anything in regards to the NHL Network.

 

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Other than that, it is all up to AT&T. They are very much aware of their subscribers desire for getting back the NHL Network.

 


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If they're so aware of it, and so many people are complaining, how many people does it take before we get some movement from these people considering negotiations? It seems that if they really wanted to offer a service to their customers, they would try to go back to the negotiating table! If not, why not make it a premium option?
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wb8cki wrote:
If they're so aware of it, and so many people are complaining, how many people does it take before we get some movement from these people considering negotiations? It seems that if they really wanted to offer a service to their customers, they would try to go back to the negotiating table! If not, why not make it a premium option?

Maybe the NHL Network doesn't want there to be a premium option.

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wb8cki wrote:
If they're so aware of it, and so many people are complaining, how many people does it take before we get some movement from these people considering negotiations? It seems that if they really wanted to offer a service to their customers, they would try to go back to the negotiating table! If not, why not make it a premium option?

AT&T is looking to pay so much money and NHL network is looking to make so much money.  AT&T pays per the subscriber that gets the network times the per-subscriber fee.  AT&T thus wants it on the highest possible tier so the number of subs is lower.  NHL Network wants it on the lowest possible tier so that the they get the highest number of subs.  So they go back and forth about which tier and how much per subscriber.  Then you have to throw in streaming rights for PC's, Phones, Tablets, in Network, out of network, authenticated users, etc.

 

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I was an early adopter seven or so years ago. Unfortunately I moved to an area that doesn’t have access to U-Verse. That has all changed today U-verse is now available in my neighborhood! So I rushed to see what U-verse's channel lineups look like.

 

Well, what even more unfortunate is that U-verse DOES NOT CARRY the NHL Network. That non-starter for me! Stupid, Stupid Stupid!

 

Well, I guess I be sticking to Direct TV.   

 

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I fail to understand how the negotiators for 30 other providers such Cablevision, Charter, Comcast, Cox, Direct TV, Dish, Quest Broadband, Time Warner and Verizon could all negotiate decent deals for their customers yet AT&T. Perhaps AT&T needs to hire the negotiators from one of these other companies. I suppose I should cross Direct TV off this list since AT&T plans on buying it.

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or buying a video service with no channels

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at3edme1 wrote:

I fail to understand how the negotiators for 30 other providers such Cablevision, Charter, Comcast, Cox, Direct TV, Dish, Quest Broadband, Time Warner and Verizon could all negotiate decent deals for their customers yet AT&T. Perhaps AT&T needs to hire the negotiators from one of these other companies. I suppose I should cross Direct TV off this list since AT&T plans on buying it.


But it takes two to dance, right?  I was not at the negotiations but (playing Devil's advocate) what if the NHL negotiator simply didn't want to play ball with AT&T?  Just saying.  CBS is in the same boat, with Video on Demand.  CBS only offers their shows via VoD where CBS owns the local station - and that is in just 14 of AT&T's almost 140 markets.  CBS will not budge!  

 

I can't say whether we will get NHL or not but I bet that they are trying.   Channels want carriers to pay more and carriers want to pay less - and so it goes, it is a two way street.  Good luck.

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dambro wrote:

I was an early adopter seven or so years ago. Unfortunately I moved to an area that doesn’t have access to U-Verse. That has all changed today U-verse is now available in my neighborhood! So I rushed to see what U-verse's channel lineups look like.

 

Well, what even more unfortunate is that U-verse DOES NOT CARRY the NHL Network. That non-starter for me! Stupid, Stupid Stupid!

 

Well, I guess I be sticking to Direct TV.   

 


 

After the merger goes through and the channel lineups are finalized, AT&T *could* get NHL Network off DirecTV's lineup, or the NHL could pull the channel from DirecTV, based off AT&T's lineup.

 

We simply do not know. There is a LOT to be figured out by "the suits" before everything is even begun to be finalized.

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It's back......and now the question no longer needs to be asked.

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The only problem with it being back is that it requires U450 package. I love the NHL but I'm not about to pay $40 more each month for just one channel. (I understand that i would be getting more than just one channel, but those other channels do nothing for me).

ATT, please consider making NHL Network a la carte or as part of a sports package.
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It looks like u verse won the battle after all, part of the reason for no nhl network  for 5 years , was that nhl network wanted to be carried on the u-300 tier like mlb and nba networks, but had to settle for the U-450 tier. Seems kind of silly it took nhl network 5 years to get a deal they could have had in oct. 2011. Being a hockey fan,I am thrilled by he deal as the nhl networks games are blacked out nationally, and I could not watch them on game center!

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