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Where is the Hallmark Channel?

I am new to At&t U verus. I was told when I signed up the Hallmark Channel was available.  It took me a week to finally realize you don't have it. Very misleading.

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CynthiaWM wrote:

Can anyone tell me how to work to get Hallmark Channel back?


Switch providers.

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Did Crown Media once state that they didn't need AT&T because their ratings were and they were doing just fine without them?
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codycooper864 wrote:
Did Crown Media once state that they didn't need AT&T because their ratings were and they were doing just fine without them?

When you are averaging less than 1 million viewers daily, I don't see how it could hurt or help by adding another 1 or 2 viewers.

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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Good point. I am surprised the channel survives with such a low viewership.
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Explorer

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I guess you guys are out of the loop. Hallmark's ratings have greatly improved. Cedar Cove has been the #1 show in its Saturday night time slot. The original films have seen increases, too. The ratings in 2010 were abysmal. It's not 2010 anymore. The truth is, Martha was dragging them down. Once they dropped her, ratings began to improve.
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Hallmark is not missed in my household. I'm watching college football on Saturday night.
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mamaste wrote:
I guess you guys are out of the loop. Hallmark's ratings have greatly improved. Cedar Cove has been the #1 show in its Saturday night time slot. The original films have seen increases, too. The ratings in 2010 were abysmal. It's not 2010 anymore. The truth is, Martha was dragging them down. Once they dropped her, ratings began to improve.

While it may have 1 show that is winning a weekend time slot, it's still not anywhere near the top 25 shows for the week and it's ratings are still abysmal when compared to other networks. 

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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ACE - Professor

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Winning a ratings battle on a Saturday night is like winning a game of poker aginst a bunch of people with no money.

 

Also, I just looked a the ratings for the show. It has never won the night in the number of viewers (that belongs to Nick and Lifetime) and it is never in the top 5 for the 18-49 ratings demographic.

 

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I don't think ratings are what determines a channels lineup from a cable television provider. If that was vital, AT&T U-verse likely would not carry, for example, Justice Central. If this was the structure, we wouldn't have individual channels surprassing 100.

 

It seems like at least one of the two parties - Crown Media or AT&T U-verse - has been instrumental in not bringing back Hallmark Channel and Hallmark Movie Channel. I don't know the details. Regardless whatever negotiations, the three years which have passed since after both left the lineup helps to answer the following question: "Which one can better survive without the other?" Both will claim they are doing well.

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LoveHD wrote:

I don't think ratings are what determines a channels lineup from a cable television provider. If that was vital, AT&T U-verse likely would not carry, for example, Justice Central. If this was the structure, we wouldn't have individual channels surprassing 100.

 

It seems like at least one of the two parties - Crown Media or AT&T U-verse - has been instrumental in not bringing back Hallmark Channel and Hallmark Movie Channel. I don't know the details. Regardless whatever negotiations, the three years which have passed since after both left the lineup helps to answer the following question: "Which one can better survive without the other?" Both will claim they are doing well.


Ratings doesn't wholly determine whether a network is carried by a provider but I'm sure it plays a part in how much said network wants to charge and how much a provider is willing to pay.  And therein lies the problem.

 

Hallmark wanted $xxx amount of money and ATT was unwilling to pay it as per this statement from ATT:

 

We are very disappointed that Hallmark has refused to provide AT&T and its customers with a fair deal one that is no worse than similarly-sized and smaller providers and refused to adhere to key obligations under our current deal. We offered to extend the current deal while talks continued, and Hallmark rejected that offer. We don’t want customers to lose their programming, but we believe strongly that our customers should not have to pay more than their fair share for Hallmark’s channels, which is exactly what Hallmark is demanding.”       8/2010

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Hallmark - Your shows aren't as good as you seem to think they are. This is one time that I actually side with AT&T.

 

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From Business Wire, A Division of Berkshire Hathaway Company

-- "Debbie Macomber's Cedar Cove" Launches with Stellar Ratings and Social Media Dominance. Hallmark Channel's first original scripted primetime series, "Debbie Macomber's Cedar Cove", kicked off July 20 securing a 2.4 household rating with over 3.8 million unduplicated viewers. The pilot ranked as the #3-rated drama premiere on cable among households this summer to-date as well as the #1-rated ad-supported cable movie of the week and day. In addition to watching the show, viewers took social media chatter by storm, making the world premiere of "Cedar Cove" the most buzzed about primetime television program overall and #2 cable program on social media according to Trendrr Research for Saturday.

-- Hallmark Movie Channel Has a Banner Second Quarter. The network marked its highest-rated quarter in network history for total day and prime time among household delivery, registering increases of 35% in total day and 37% in primetime household delivery compared to the Second Quarter 2012 average. Hallmark Movie Channel is also pacing ahead of the competition, with its household delivery growth marking the largest year-to-year increase among all mid-sized ad-supported cable networks and the third largest increase of all 100 Nielsen measured ad-supported cable networks.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/crown-media-holdings-announces-operating-results-for-second-quarter...

 

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ACE - Professor

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This is where I say that a press release from Crown Media will be skewed to show them in a more favoriable light. odds are good that the 2.4 they're advertising is a collective rating between the prime airing and reruns.

 

Also noticed how they're number 3 in a subset of a subset of a subset. You have to question how many new dramas that preiered on cable debuted this summer and then see where this show now ranks compared to this list. The only other cable drama that I can think of premiring this summer is Graceland. Then they put it into another category that shouldn't apply since it's a tv series and not a movie.

 

As for the Ceader Cove being the most buzzed and #2 cable program I have my doubts. WWE usually takes that since they push the social media stuff during thier show and have a much bigger viewership in 3 hours than Hallmark has all week.

 

This press release reminds me of this Dilbert cartoon

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I understand press releases, and I have written many in my lifetime.   It doesn't take the mind of an Albert Einstein to determine that most press releases are meant to trumpet the good things about a company.   I understood that when I posted it, but it is good news for Crown, contrary to what is usually posted here.
 
Are certain things, sometimes, a little skewed?  For sure, because that is the way communications are relayed through the media, from big government Politics, to big business.    All want to paint a prettier picture than the one that is, actually, in the frame.
 
From experience, I will tell you one thing, that even an Albert Einstein needs to know, you can play semantic games all you want, but in the end, reports should contain more facts than fiction.  If not, said companies, and
individuals, will be challenged by those who can prove it.  The same reasoning is applicable to Crown Media and AT&T Uverse. 
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ACE - Master

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Press releases and such can be skewed both ways.  Remember what AT&T said during all of this - "We're fighting for you."  Bwahahahaha!  That was one of the funniest things that I have ever heard.  They are fighting more for themselves and their bottom line, than any subscriber. 

 

Yes Hallmark is not the most popular network but they still have a following.  BUT it may be that the demograpgic may have lots to do with it.  Take two equal channels but one appeals to older women and one to younger men, advertisers will outspend 10:1 on the channel with the younger men.  That may have had something to do with it.  Radio stations do that all of the time, dump a popular format with older listeners for a younger demographic, even if fewer will tune in.

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