What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

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What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

A couple days ago I discovered that the Music Choice channels had been renumbered.  No problem, I thought, I'll just unhide whatever channel Classical Masterpieces is now on.  Wrong!  It's nowhere to be found, either in the channel list or the MC app, though it's still available on musicchoice.com.  Why would AT&T carry only 46 of the 50 MC channels?

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ACE - Professor

Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?


JefferMC wrote:

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 


I hope certain posters read your post, and the moderators can finally close the thread.

 


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ACE - Master

Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

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JefferMC wrote:

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 


Jeffer and dwinth - I hope that we're not getting into who's fault it is because that can be played both ways.

 

Is it Music Choice's fault that AT&T only bought or made room for 46 channels, instead of 50, 52 or however many?  There were once 48 Urge channels.

 

Is it Music Choice's fault that U-Verse now carries say, "Pop Country" instead of "Classical Masterpieces?"  If you ask me, any "country" music made after 2000 is "pop" style music, yecch!    I doubt that MC foced AT&T into that.  

 

So I'm not sure if a document that says MC has over 50 music channels when AT&T only has 46 slots is a true "solution" to the OP's concern.  Wikipedia has a great timeline of MC past channels.

 

 

 

 

 

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ACE - Expert

Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

dhascall, did you look at the documents I linked?

 

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ACE - Master

Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

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JefferMC wrote:

dhascall, did you look at the documents I linked?

 


I did.  I read this with particular attention:

 

  1. If the Music Choice digital audio feed is passed directly on to the cable plant i.e. no multiplexing or grooming of the signal, then the only action required is the addition of the four channels with updated MPEGs and Source IDs on the channel map in the controller.

Nowhere in there did it state that you would have to pay extra for these feeds.  I am sure, of course, that AT&T paid for 46 channels but MC has had 50, so they haven't always carried everything.  I also looked at another doc, in that schema that said that Tejano, Instrumentals and some Italian channel, were the new overflows.  So, I'm a bit confused.

 

From the carriage agreement that TG posted a few months back, it seems that AT&T had at least some say in the matter.  Some of the blame must fall with AT&T, maybe they could have negotiated to carry the extras, maybe said I do not want this channel or that.  Now of course, MC may be "maximiz(ing) and extend(ing) our brand and programming strategy" by moving some less important channels (to them) and dissing on Classical Masterpieces.  I know payola rukles only apply to DJ's, individual radio stations and so on but they do not apply to corporate broadcasters, so MC may be looking for a cash cow but it's not 100% MC's fault, IMHO.

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ACE - Expert

Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

What I got out of the channel list (showing old and new allocations) is that MC had taken the Classical channel out of its normal place and moved it to an overflow area.  

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ACE - Master

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I got that too but AT&T still has 3 of the 4.  Ok it is indeed MC's fault that this occured (maybe other channels do make MC more money) but then it's up to AT&T and MC tro see how to handle it.

 

Brighthouse in our area added those four to the end:

 

1996Music Choice: Singers & Swing
1997Music Choice: Easy Listening
1998Music Choice: Classical Masterpieces
1999Music Choice: Light Classical

 

U-Verse still has three of the four, so, if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that it was more than likely AT&T's call to keep those three and shelve "Masterpieces."

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Scholar

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dwinth wrote:
I have never taken advantage of Music Choice or it's predecessor, but I still hate to see any music channels dropped. I enjoy classical music at times, but I prefer listening to my own CD's.  I have never been able to get into using a television music channel for my enjoyment. I should check out the remaining channels.

Classical Masterpieces is nice because it runs stuff I've never heard before.  The light classical channel is OK for background music, especially if you go for baroque, but it doesn't play longer works and most of what it plays I've heard a million times.

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Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?


dhascall wrote:
  I also looked at another doc, in that schema that said that Tejano, Instrumentals and some Italian channel, were the new overflows.  So, I'm a bit confused.

Me too.  MC's list (thanks for the link, JefferMC) shows Singers & Swing, Easy Listening, Classical Masterpieces, and Light Classical as being in the new 47 through 50 range.  Of the 4 channels in that range, CM is the only one AT&T doesn't have.  AT&T also doesn't have Love Songs (20), Romances (40), and Stage & Screen (42), so we'll probably be hearing from fans of those.

 

It really doesn't matter whose "fault" it is, I just don't want to lose my favorite MC channel.

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io
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Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.

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ACE - Professor

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io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


So you watch an audio channel the most out of every channel on your service? Might I suggest that you lower your package or subscribe to XM radio instead.

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Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

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io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


I will never understand people like this poster who want to leave U-Verse because of a music channel not being there anymore. Maybe I am weird, but I subscribed to U-Verse primarily for it's television channels and secondarily for the internet.

 

According to the opinion of this poster named io, U-Verse must think that we are all straight out of Deliverance. In fact, I was talking to someone at a Christmas dinner last night who remarked that the chairman of the board of AT&T. "got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?"

 

Again, I do not believe that this poster is an actual U-Verse subscriber. Quiting U-Verse because of one music channel when there are plenty of other methods of listening to classical music? Please!! Give me a break.

 


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Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?


dwinth wrote:

io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


I will never understand people like this poster who want to leave U-Verse because of a music channel not being there anymore. Maybe I am weird, but I subscribed to U-Verse primarily for it's television channels and secondarily for the internet.

 

According to the opinion of this poster named io, U-Verse must think that we are all straight out of Deliverance. In fact, I was talking to someone at a Christmas dinner last night who remarked that the chairman of the board of AT&T. "got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?"

 

Again, I do not believe that this poster is an actual U-Verse subscriber. Quiting U-Verse because of one music channel when there are plenty of other methods of listening to classical music? Please!! Give me a break.

 


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I am with you. I could care less whether or not my TV had any music channels.  If I want to listen to music I have a radio, an MP3 player as well as I HeartRadio on my phone and PC.

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Teacher

Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

I, too, would like to have Classical Masterpieces restored rather than the dozens of "popular" Music Choice channels targeting the 18-34 demographic.

 

The snarky attitude of the so-called gurus on this board is a disgrace.

 

Isn't your objective to be helpful? Then be helpful rather than insulting us.

 

 

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pduggan1 wrote:

 

The snarky attitude of the so-called gurus on this board is a disgrace.

 

Isn't your objective to be helpful? Then be helpful rather than insulting us.

 

 


I second that.  Contrary to widespread belief, just putting up a post should not be viewed as an invitation to snarky attacks.  They may justify it all they want, but in the end, they're wrong.

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Re: What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

my previous provider had music choice.....then 6 months ago switched to galaxie....talk about sucky music.....so when uverse was available in my area...i jumped on it......

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