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Not able to watch xfinity NASCAR race today?

Couldn't watch NASCAR race today because of? Politics between xfinity and ATT? Hello, you broke my contract. I didn't pay u not to have what I'm suppose to be able to watch. You have been naughty and that's not nice. All NASCAR fans are a ( Let's say a little upset) . How about all you NASCAR fans change to xfinity. Att broke their contract with us today..........
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AT&T should Sponser the races. Now, that's a thought!
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@2marro wrote:
Couldn't watch NASCAR race today because of? Politics between xfinity and ATT? Hello, you broke my contract. I didn't pay u not to have what I'm suppose to be able to watch. You have been naughty and that's not nice. All NASCAR fans are a ( Let's say a little upset) . How about all you NASCAR fans change to xfinity. Att broke their contract with us today..........

Where'd you get the idea it was a fight between ATT and Comcrap's Infinity?

 

It's that FS1 is demanding additional $$ for programming they got after they rebranded from Speed.  Affects some Infinity races, Big East sports, US Open golf. 

 

So, FS1 is sending a special feed to Uverse sustituting darts for all these affected programs.

 

Why would I go to Infinity, here in metro Detroit they don't have FS2 in any form, or FXMovies and no MeTV, all channels I watch/record.  Then they only have TVLand, GAC and Sundance only in SD.  No thanks. Smiley Very Happy

 

Chris
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Was not happy could not watch the race they better get this fixed
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They don't get this fixed I'm going to have to maybe find someone else who airs the race
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@2marro wrote:
Couldn't watch NASCAR race today because of? Politics between xfinity and ATT? Hello, you broke my contract. I didn't pay u not to have what I'm suppose to be able to watch. You have been naughty and that's not nice. All NASCAR fans are a ( Let's say a little upset) . How about all you NASCAR fans change to xfinity. Att broke their contract with us today..........

AT&T has not broken any contracts.  It's FS1 that is demanding more money while they are already under an agreement with AT&T.

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I'm so angry I think I will short ATT stock! It's got to nose dive with this kind og managment skills.

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A little history lesson:

 

In 2013, Fox re-branded SPEED CHANNEL to become FOX SPORTS 1.  According to a report in the San Francisco Examiner, FOX offered cable providers the option of maintaining fee structure under the then-existing agreement between FOX and the providers with the proviso that FOX SPORTS 1 would surcharge those providers when live events were telecast; or, cable providers could enter into a new fee agreement with FOX for ALL events on FOX SPORTS 1.

 

Under the SPEED CHANNEL agreement option, cable providers would only have access to programming already offered by SPEED CHANNEL; any new live programming on FOX SPORTS 1 would result in an additional fee - hence the dispute over XFINITY series/Big East basketball/etc.

 

Since the NATIONWIDE (now XFINITY) series was on ESPN until the 2015 season, there was no issue.  XFINITY qualifying which had been on SPEED CHANNEL prior to FOX SPORTS 1 remained a televised event on U-verse under the SPEED CHANNEL agreement.

 

AT&T knew what it was doing when it chose to remain with the SPEED CHANNEL agreement until it expired then enter into a new agreement with FOX at the higher rate for FOX SPORTS 1 and 2.  What AT&T didn't know or anticipate was that FOX would win the rights to the XFINITY series and would elect to air those races on both FOX and FOX SPORTS 1 or 2 at its' discretion.  This put AT&T in the position of "paying the piper" for XFINITY series/Big East basketball or cry "foul" and hope its' subscribers didn't dig too deep into the issue.  Clearly, AT&T guessed wrong but either won't or can't admit a disasterous business mistake. 

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@oldguy4001 Where's the link for that?  Believe me I never read anything like that when, before or after, the re-branding about that partictular fact.  Don't honestly believe FS1 would offer a deal like that and ATT would make a deal like that. Smiley Surprised

 

Edit:  Why is the Infinity race being shown on the Fox locals, if new to FS1?  Cause Fox locals pay the fee for Fox programming whatever it might be and can't block it there. 

 

Seems FS1 want to black out on Uverse any live sports program that never was on any Fox channel before.  Hinting at MLS and USA National team soccer too.

 

Chris
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http://www.examiner.com/article/fox-sports-1-another-dispute-this-time-with-at-t-u-verse

 

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Some history: When Fox converted its former Speed channel to FS1, system operators who already had deals to carry Speed were given the choice of either riding out the remainder of their original agreement or signing a new deal with FS1. Many of them chose to stick to their existing agreement to save money. Speed was priced at about 24 cents per subscriber per month. FS1 has reportedly asked for 80 cents per sub per month, inflating to $1.50 over time. But sticking with the less costly deal involves a catch: Fox can charge additional carriage fees for sports programming that wouldn’t have aired on Speed.

Therefore U-Verse continues to carry FS1, but Fox can black out high-profile events on U-Verse if AT&T won’t pony up for them."

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FOX is in the process of building FOX SPORTS 1 and 2 to compete favorably with ESPN/NBCSN/and whatever CBS calls its' cable sports channel.  It is reasonable to expect FOX Sports will move some events from the FOX local to FS1 or FS2 to draw viewers and enhance the ratings of both channels.  Ratings equal advertising revenue so it makes sense for FOX to use all the tools in its' arsenal.  Note that 9 Sprint Cup races are scheduled for FS1 beginning with Martinsville so the issue is only going to become more intense.  Remember that FOX local stations are "over-the-air" so anyone with the proper equipment can receive the signal w/o being a cable subscriber; that limits FOX Sports ability to "bully" cable providers by creating "black-out" situations such as being experienced with XFINITY/Big East basketball.

 

I can't fault FOX for doing what it right for its' income stream - as the Examiner article pointed out - AT&T made the bed, now it has to sleep in it.

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@oldguy4001 Not quite the Examiner way things were done:

 

At first, Fox sought a higher carriage fee as well, estimated at 80¢ per subscriber (more than triple the fee of 23¢ per subscriber that Speed had commanded; by comparison, ESPN pulls in fees of approximately $5.00 per subscriber, the most expensive fee of any pay television network).[10][16] Concerns by providers over the increasing costs for cable and satellite services for their customers (largely believed to be partly due to the higher fees commanded by certain sports channels) resulted in Fox backing off charging the 80¢ per subscriber rate, instead charging the same 23¢ rate that those providers paid to carry Speed.[17][18]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Sports_1#Launch_and_carriage

Smiley Wink

 

Edit:  If the difference they're fighting about is 57¢/user/mo, ATT should pony up and pay it, they've raised our rates each Feb for the last 6 times I've been here.  That can just be part of next Feb's increase.

 

Chris
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Just a question:

 

If the Examiner article cited above is reasonably correct in its' discussion of rates SPEED to FS1; that is, there is only a 56 cent-per-subscriber difference between SPEED and FS1 at the present time, wouldn't it behoove AT&T to agree to the difference?

 

AT&T is never reluctant to add charges to its' monthly bill (mine is well over $200.00 per month now) so what is the big deal with an additional 56 cents (even if AT&T doubled that amount to $1.12 it is doubtful many would object AS LONG AS THEY GET ALL THE FS1 and 2 programming)?

 

What's your opinion?

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It's in the edit of my post above yours. Smiley Very Happy

 

Chris
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so we aren't employed to monitor the situation?  but what can we productively do to get this resolved?  i guess i should just start ignoring this because it won't matter after tonight until november.  but i still will hold it against att and fox sports for the future.

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