Coax or Cat5

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Coax or Cat5

We had Uverse TV and cancelled it. Now we are considering getting Uverse TV again with one or two STB's. The coax cable, AT&T splitters and connectors are still in place. Does the installer still have the option of using existing coax or must cat5 cables now be used?

 

If I wanted the installer to run cat5 cable from the RG to an Home Theater System, how would I order that and how much would I be charged?

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Preferred method of install if devices are wireless, cat5 cable NID to RG, RG near main DVR location, premade Ethernet cable to DVR, if this is HTS location, another premade (6 to 15 feet) to HTS. Wireless Access Point on 6 foot Ethernet. Up to two wireless receivers.

The installer can run up to 3 lines without charge, the home run (NID to RG) counts as 1.
Each wire run over 3 is $55 per cable.

Wireless receiver is $49 each one time charge, plus $8 per month same as hardwired ($8).
If order u300 or u450 can order 1 wireless receiver without $49 one time charge.

While existing coax can be used, the recommendation is not to.
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ACE - Guru

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I would want everything wired. If we do get TV again I will tell the tech to use cat5 instead if coax. There would be two wires run. We already have cat5 from the inid to the existing RG (i38hg).
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ACE - Guru

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If we do have an ethernet cable run to the Home theater, can someone recommend a switch(?) to use to connect three devices? I would assume the cable from the router into the switch and three ethernet cables out to the devices. For future proofing, a 6-8 port switch would work too. Would the tech have one in the truck that could be bought and used?
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ACE - Expert

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browndk26 - I use one of these 108 switches that I believe had been recommended in posts. THere do seem to be variations of the letter designation. Not sure how much difference it makes.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006RVPW/ref=asc_df_B00006RVPW1644937?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=hyprod-20&li...

One thing that does make a difference is - keep a path to the RG for video and one for internet access. If you mix video and internet on the same path/switch it may flood the switch. This forces at least two cat5 cable from the location to the RG. Then you have to decide if you want more cables, one or two switches.
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ACE - Guru

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Thanks aviewer. I will have them run two cables to the Home theater. With the above switch, does the cable from the router plug into any of the 8 ports pictured? There is no "in" port and "out" ports?
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ACE - Expert

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browndk26 - Now that you mention it, I think that confused me too. The directions must have covered it.
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browndk26 wrote:
Thanks aviewer. I will have them run two cables to the Home theater. With the above switch, does the cable from the router plug into any of the 8 ports pictured? There is no "in" port and "out" ports?

Yes. It's auto-uplink enabled, so it will detect which one of the ports is providing uplink data. (Out of habit, I always do port 1 or 8.)

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ACE - Guru

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I have read in some of the forums that inid installations are not being done anymore. If we added TV services again, would our inid be removed and would we be given another router? Or would we keep all the same equipment? We currently have the 2wire i38hg RG and a nid and inid on the outside of the house. Cat5 home run from the inid to the RG.
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ACE - Expert

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If you were a new customer, you would not get an iNID.  You would have a Cat5e home run installed between your NID and your RG, and both pair would run from the VRAD, through your NID, to a Motorola NVG 589 RG which would handle the pair bonded VDSL2 connection.

 

If there isn't a problem with your current equipment, I don't know that they would want to replace stuff that's working.

 

It's a good question.  I hope my thoughts wanders through and can give a more informed, but still personal, opinion on this.

 

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Replace a working inid when adding TV service?
More of a tech choice... inid are just original bonded installs, still carried on trucks, I have installed 2 past 90 days.
Techs carry limited equipment, generally 2 of each RG, 3800, 3801, 589, 5031, 510, and (1) 3812, with PS, i38hg.
If tech has no 589s, or has only one which fails to load software, installing inid.

My 1900 foot install today was a 3801, devices couldn't connect to wifi pass code,swapped for other 3801....next job was a frequent 3800 repair with weak wifi...required to replace 3800 with 3801 on frequent, no more 3801 , installed 589.

Newer techs not familiar would remove inid, power supply, and i38hg. Install new nid,possible new cat5 home run if RG in different location than current i38hg indoor unit (IU). Experienced techs looking to save time would test equipment and use if no problems.

The only advantage is 589 having low frequency (2.4 ghz) n wireless.
Either unit can have problems after install, seen 589 with flaky wifi signal within 30 days, ports fail, etc. So having newest equipment does not necessary mean problem free.

As the work order generally states RG to use, I would say odds about 65% new RG, but could just be inid replacement with another 3812 inid.

When in doubt ask installer....
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ACE - Guru

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Thanks for the responses. "If it is not broken, don't fix it" seems appropriate here.
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ACE - Guru

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My Thoughts,

 

Can a cat 5 cable be run to a TV without an STB? To connect an internet device such as an Apple TV or Home Theater Receiver?

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Employee

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In short, yes. (Standard Ethernet)

Need either a free port (yellow) on back if RG or to a gigabit switch such as GS108 if need expanded ports at RG.

http://www.att.com/equipment/accessory-details/?q_sku=sku3950269
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