Remote programming options for Sony HTIB

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Remote programming options for Sony HTIB

I just recently hooked up my Sony home theater system to my Uverse STB.  I found the proper code and it does power on and power off the HTIB.  Problem is... The volume control still wants to raise and lower the volume on my TV.  I have done the ATT/OK 955/Aux reprogram that doesn't get me where I want to be.  I need to be able to switch back and forth.  My wife gets over whelmed by more than one remote.  Is there a way to be able to control the volume on both the TV and HTIB separately?  With the ATT Uverse black remote?  I really don't want to leave my HTIB running all the time.

 

Thanks for looking.

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Re: Remote programming options for Sony HTIB

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If there is a way to control the volume I have not been able to figure it out.  I'm using the "AUX" button to power on and off my Sony HTIB for my BR TV.  I've tried everything using the black and silver remotes.  Neither one will do volume. 

 

Some here suggest buying a Harmony remote and that will work.  You can take a look at them here.

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I have it set up right now to control the volume on my Sony HTIB.  It does indeed work.  Problem is I don't want the home theater running all the time.  I only want to use it when I'm watching movies.  Then go back to controlling the volume on my Panasonic Plasma the rest of the time.  I'm only wondering if I'm missing something.  Or the remote can only control the volume on one device at a time.  Default if you will.

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‎09-30-2015 1:39 AM

Re: Remote programming options for Sony HTIB

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The U-verse remote can control each independently, but the Logitech is still better.

The key to the U-verse is - att/ok -955 - enter.
This causes the volume control to follow the mode key.
In att mode - controls STB
In TV mode - controls TV
In aux mode - controls HT.
This is great, except you watch in ATT mode. So, you can leave the TV & HT at some mid level and vary the STB or you have to play with the mode buttons, often.

With the logitech 300, You could specify which to use the most & always have access to the others by selecting the device.

If you upgrade to a Logitech with more activities, you can have two activities -

Watch TV - Turns on STB & TV & selects STB input on TV & varies TV volume.

Watch TV w HT - Turns on STB & TV & HT & selects HT input on TV & varies HT volume.

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Accepted by topic author happaflapp
‎09-30-2015 1:39 AM

Re: Remote programming options for Sony HTIB

This is a good example of - You need to tune the activity as you use it & that is easy to do.
The watch TV w HT needs a few more steps on turn on:
Mute TV (or turn off speakers)
Select correct input on TV.

Which leads to - why are there more inputs on the HT? So you can do the same with the DVD player or the computer. The combinations are endless.

I have a Logitech model 700 that supports many activities, but used only one activity (Watch TV). When I got my new TV, I added a second activity - Watch two TVs
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So, it all comes down to how many activities a remote can do.  I see. 

 

One of the Harmony's would accomplish what I want.  Versus the ATT remote that I would have reprogram each time I want it to do a different activity.

 

Thanks for the info.

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happaflapp - I think you got it. I would just like to revisit the activity concept because it is unique to the Logitech Harmony. You custom design how you want to map each button while you are in a specific universe (activity) . Not only how the buttons respond , but, also, how the devices are set up.

U-verse tries to do this with codes. but it is not flexible enough. It is more confusing. Since it is not "easy" is is of no value.
When you have an HT that you want to use sometimes, you really need to set up two different activities. It really is complicated & may not even be 100%. Like the mute button - you want the TV muted when on HT and not muted when no HT. But, mute is toggle - not specifically on/off. Best way is send mute on HT and vol up on TV.

I got confused on my last post. The fourth line says -
Select correct input on TV
It should say -
Select correct input on HT

More perspective on the Logitech Harmony -

The U-verse remote is effective for some subset of basic control functions on the most popular equipment, The Harmony provides full control of complex setups across a broader range of equipment.

Until sometime in 2011 the Harmony only offered expensive models (over $100). In 2011 they introduced the model 300 ($30) followed by the model 200 ($20). These only support one activity (Not many for a Harmony, but same as U-verse) - Watch TV.
 
This writeup shows that, even though the basic descriptions sound the same, there are functional advantages to the Harmony. The question is - Is it worth spending $$ for the Harmony.

Basic Similarity (Logitech Harmony Model 300 vs. U-verse remote) -
 
Both can control four devices (STB, TV, DVD, Aux) under one activity - Watch TV.

Logitech Harmony Model 300 advantages -
 
Must be able to do something no other remote can do to convince you to spend $30 to buy it so Logitech can make a profit.
 
Monster library of supported devices built on budget for expensive remotes (amazing how libraries grow over the years).

You can predetermine support of make & model via web site (http://myremotesetup.com/EasyZapper/New/Main.asp?WebProcessAction=Start&ReturnUrl=%2FEasyZapper%2F%2...

Since device support is defined in detail, a Logitech customer service rep (CSR) can help with any problems. When anything new comes out it can be added to your existing remote via download.
 
To program - Enter device make model in computer  based wizard. When device is supported, all functions are supported. IR signals can be learned from device remote.
 
IR/function/button  map - You can map any button to any function. You can pick buttons based on your preference, instead of someone else's. Logitech can add any new IR code format to function mapping via download. CSR can download changes that affect only you,
 
Watch TV button - Turns on/off programmed devices. Sets correct input. Ability to sequence devices and introduce delay between devices.
 
Change from Watch TV mode to individual device control with one button push and vice-versa. Same volume/mute buttons will affect different devices (STB, TV, HT) depending on device selected and the one user selected for the Watch TV activity. Note that the U-verse phantom mute can be un-muted with four logical button pushes - device mode, STB, mute, return to watch TV mode.
 
Able to buy more advanced remotes for more money - Each step up adds more devices, more activities(e.g. Watch OTA, Watch DVD, Watch TV with HT sound), more display (LCD screen) of functions & recharge-ablity .

Multiple activities appears to be a concept unique to the Logitech Harmony. It allows the same buttons to be programmed to different sets of inputs/functions/devices based on what the viewer is watching (i.e. an activity). The button map is unique to the activity. It can be as similar or different between activities/devices as you need it to be. Each activity has its own start up sequence to power up the selected devices & set inputs needed for continuity. It is especially valuable for complex setups and/or people with only basic knowledge of the operation of the remote.
 
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U-verse remote limitations -
 
U-verse  remote is provided free to watch U-verse TV. Support for some functions on some other devices is included so that it can be called "universal". But there is no business driver to spend money to assure full support of all functions on all possible devices .
 
Limited library of supported devices. Vague lists by type/mfgr. No model detail. No definitive/comprehensive list of codes. No "not supported" statement. If support is not accomplished, there is no way to find out if it should be supported until you find that the remote works for you. Since device support is not defined in detail, customer service rep cannot help with problems.
 
To program- Enter an arbitrary code that may be difficult (or impossible) to determine or step through every possible entry using the search method. Possibly finding some partially supported sets along the way.  No IR learning.
 
IR/function/button  map - Button/IR map cannot change (need new physical remote). IR/function map can only change if U-verse globally changes STB software. No ability to provide individual tuning.
 
Watch TV (ATT/power) -  Turns on/off programmed devices. Does not set input. No ability to sequence devices or introduce delay.
 
Default mode of operation is Watch TV (Channel change on STB, Volume on TV, Power up STB/TV). To vary operation requires reprogramming with more arbitrary codes applied to individual functions. No clear distinction between Watch TV and individual device control (i.e. It is difficult to change operation between Watch TV and controlling individual devices by programming with codes.)

To clear phantom mute - att/ok - 955 - att - enter - mute - att/ok - 955 - tv - enter. 12 button pushes, where two are two finger. If you can remember how to do it.
 
Point anywhere remote is the only extra cost upgrade - provides RF (with STB pairing) and learning IR.



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Re: Remote programming options for Sony HTIB

Great explanation.  I think I'm going to check out some Logitech remotes.  I have all Logitech peripherals for my PC's.  So, it only makes sense to go that route.

 

Thanks again.

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Post if you come up with any questions.
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Hey thanks aviewer.  I will.

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