Why do people still need landlines???

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Why do people still need landlines???

Okay I know that some people do not have cell phones and I get that. But everyone else who does have a cell, why need a landline?
 
I have ATT wireless, night and weekend starts at 7pm, I have roll over and unlimtied ATT-ATT calling and unlimted LD.
 
And for those worried about times, Metro PCS(if in your area) for $40 a month and unlimited calling period(sure the coverage area is limited, but given that 80% of people travel less than 50 miles from their home on average) that is worth it.
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911 response time. If you call 911 from your cell the response time is 4-5 minutes longer than if you called from your home phone. That's why we keep our home phone. That 4-5 minutes would have cost my husband his life.
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ksebring wrote:
911 response time. If you call 911 from your cell the response time is 4-5 minutes longer than if you called from your home phone. That's why we keep our home phone. That 4-5 minutes would have cost my husband his life.

 

We no longer have a house phone and we have 0 difference response time from an 911.

 

Our house was being robbed with our 12 year old at home.  She called 911, was immediatly routed to the correct city.

 

She told dispatch her address, the police were here in 4 minutes.  Caught BOTH burglers in the act, they are currently chilling in jail.

 

I asked the police the differences of response time from cell phone to hard land line.  There are no differnce.

 

People used to keep a landline for home security systems.  This is now no longer necessary reason to keep a land line.  The security company installed a cell transmitter that would directly call the security company.

 

Get rid of the land lines!!!! lol don't let AT&T own everything!

 

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Splitz wrote:

ksebring wrote:
911 response time. If you call 911 from your cell the response time is 4-5 minutes longer than if you called from your home phone. That's why we keep our home phone. That 4-5 minutes would have cost my husband his life.

 

We no longer have a house phone and we have 0 difference response time from an 911.

 

Our house was being robbed with our 12 year old at home.  She called 911, was immediatly routed to the correct city.

 

She told dispatch her address, the police were here in 4 minutes.  Caught BOTH burglers in the act, they are currently chilling in jail.

 

I asked the police the differences of response time from cell phone to hard land line.  There are no differnce.

 

People used to keep a landline for home security systems.  This is now no longer necessary reason to keep a land line.  The security company installed a cell transmitter that would directly call the security company.

 

Get rid of the land lines!!!! lol don't let AT&T own everything!

 


Good for her and good job teaching her about keeping her head and making that phone call.

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I'm not totally against change or technology, and if my heart monitor would work with VOIP I might try it, but last I was told by Medtronic (heart monitor people), I would have to have a working LAN to make it work.
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Splitz wrote:

ksebring wrote:
911 response time. If you call 911 from your cell the response time is 4-5 minutes longer than if you called from your home phone. That's why we keep our home phone. That 4-5 minutes would have cost my husband his life.

 

We no longer have a house phone and we have 0 difference response time from an 911.

 

Our house was being robbed with our 12 year old at home.  She called 911, was immediatly routed to the correct city.

 

She told dispatch her address, the police were here in 4 minutes.  Caught BOTH burglers in the act, they are currently chilling in jail.

 

I asked the police the differences of response time from cell phone to hard land line.  There are no differnce.

 

People used to keep a landline for home security systems.  This is now no longer necessary reason to keep a land line.  The security company installed a cell transmitter that would directly call the security company.

 

Get rid of the land lines!!!! lol don't let AT&T own everything!

 


IF facts have changed let me know, but doesn't 911 from a landline have your location id just from calling them? I know a cell phone does not show your location. 

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caliuser wrote:

Splitz wrote:

ksebring wrote:
911 response time. If you call 911 from your cell the response time is 4-5 minutes longer than if you called from your home phone. That's why we keep our home phone. That 4-5 minutes would have cost my husband his life.

 

We no longer have a house phone and we have 0 difference response time from an 911.

 

Our house was being robbed with our 12 year old at home.  She called 911, was immediatly routed to the correct city.

 

She told dispatch her address, the police were here in 4 minutes.  Caught BOTH burglers in the act, they are currently chilling in jail.

 

I asked the police the differences of response time from cell phone to hard land line.  There are no differnce.

 

People used to keep a landline for home security systems.  This is now no longer necessary reason to keep a land line.  The security company installed a cell transmitter that would directly call the security company.

 

Get rid of the land lines!!!! lol don't let AT&T own everything!

 


IF facts have changed let me know, but doesn't 911 from a landline have your location id just from calling them? I know a cell phone does not show your location. 


she told dispatch the address. now a days lucky it wasn't her email address...:smileyhappy:  j/k

Dennis
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MarkShadid wrote:
I'm not totally against change or technology, and if my heart monitor would work with VOIP I might try it, but last I was told by Medtronic (heart monitor people), I would have to have a working LAN to make it work.
 

FYI, I have a Medtronic pacemaker/defibrillator monitor that needs to connect with them and forward results to them every 3 months.  I was also (wrongly) told by the Medtronic folks that VOIP wouldn't work with the unit.  AT&T's U-verse VOIP is somehow different and it works fine.  No problems with the two connections since last September. The monitor uses the old Modem protocol to connect to the number it phones.  The monitor just plugs into the phone line.  I turn it on, let it interrogate the pacemaker/defibrillator unit, and it sends the information without any problem.

 

 



"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." ~Oscar Wilde
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caliuser wrote:

 

IF facts have changed let me know, but doesn't 911 from a landline have your location id just from calling them? I know a cell phone does not show your location. 


        the #  is registered with the address     ...  u move u have to re register it   (e911)

 

        may vary from vendor  to vendor  but same basic principal  imho

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Sick_Puppy wrote:

MarkShadid wrote:
I'm not totally against change or technology, and if my heart monitor would work with VOIP I might try it, but last I was told by Medtronic (heart monitor people), I would have to have a working LAN to make it work.
 

FYI, I have a Medtronic pacemaker/defibrillator monitor that needs to connect with them and forward results to them every 3 months.  I was also (wrongly) told by the Medtronic folks that VOIP wouldn't work with the unit.  AT&T's U-verse VOIP is somehow different and it works fine.  No problems with the two connections since last September. The monitor uses the old Modem protocol to connect to the number it phones.  The monitor just plugs into the phone line.  I turn it on, let it interrogate the pacemaker/defibrillator unit, and it sends the information without any problem.

 

 



"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go." ~Oscar Wilde

Well then that's good to know.  I may just look into it.  Thanks for letting me know that.

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I thought these days they were using wireless enhanced 911 which allows them to not only route the call correctly but also find the location based on the cell phones GPS chip and triangulation. While not exact it is probably +/- 30' of your exact location.
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fl_cyclist wrote:
I thought these days they were using wireless enhanced 911 which allows them to not only route the call correctly but also find the location based on the cell phones GPS chip and triangulation. While not exact it is probably +/- 30' of your exact location.

 

        fwiw  voip  NO  a registered location   not   gps

 

 

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My reply was for those using cell phones to replace their landlines not VOIP and the comments on 911.
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Looks like AT&T _finally_ decided to roll out Uverse Voice ( a day late / dollar short IMO).

They took too long for me (Uverse has been available here since spring of 2007).. and I've been on TWC VoIP for the past 6 months.

 

http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=26509

 

What I don't know, is why they took so long.

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1) 911 Reliability - Emergencies don't give fore-warning, and if youo have in-home medical needs, this can be a huge reason.

 

2) Home Alarm Systems - Alot of home alarm systems are based on analog technolgies and are not compatible with digital phone, or require expensive upgrades.

 

3) Satellite TV Receivers - Home satellite companies, example Dish Network, required a analog dial tone for remote ordering, or they charge you more per month, per receiver.

 

4) Fax Machines - Some fax machines are not digital phone compatible, due to their analox modem port.

 

5) Reliability - Not all VoIP providers provide you power backup, and unreliable HSI connections can leave you out of phone service.

 

6) Quality - Not all VoIP providers quality are created equally, there is some garbage out their. Price isn't the measure of the service.

 

7) Ignorance - Some people are afraid of change and progress, because of the fear of the unknown.

 

That being said....  U-voice being installed at my residence on 02/20/09, just became available in Missouri.

 

:smileysurprised:)

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KCRoyals wrote:

 

5) Reliability - Not all VoIP providers provide you power backup, and unreliable HSI connections can leave you out of phone service.

 

6) Quality - Not all VoIP providers quality are created equally, there is some garbage out their. Price isn't the measure of the service.

 

7) Ignorance - Some people are afraid of change and progress, because of the fear of the unknown.

 

That being said....  U-voice being installed at my residence on 02/20/09, just became available in Missouri.

 

:smileysurprised:)


 5 - Many also have cordless phones that don't work in their house, also, many have cell phones as well. 

 

 6  -Very true - Skype has worked very well and is very reliable for ME.  Everything from a 3Mbps/512kbps DSL to 10/1Mbps cable and cellphone (WiFi) has functioned w/o issues - even across SSH tunnel to a squid proxy half way across the country.  Magic Jack hasn't been very reliable - and I wouldn't recommend it.

 

 7 - Same reason people still like AOL dialup.

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