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I think that's where they're heading; my last DVR no longer has the 2020 number on the sticker, but the site for TS!


Leo had his tooth checked today, and his sinuses.  All was well, but he's been doing shallow breathing since about 7P!  Not eating or drinking, feels very hot.  Why does this stuff happen after hours!


Anyone else ever seen this after a pet has been under with gas (not injection)?

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Leo had his tooth checked today, and his sinuses.  All was well, but he's been doing shallow breathing since about 7P!  Not eating or drinking, feels very hot.  Why does this stuff happen after hours!


Anyone else ever seen this after a pet has been under with gas (not injection)?

Oh noSmiley Surprised

Hope Leo is OK.Smiley Sad


Not sure about cats, but I know if a person goes under general, your "disposal" systems have a tendancy to go "offline" temporarily. My last surgery, they kept telling me "You can not leave until you go".


Unfortunately, I could not perform on demand, so they cathed me. It still took a quart of hot prune juice and two days at home before things were back to normal.



This is from an article I found:


Potential Hazards by Drug Name

This list is not intended to instill fear nor to cause you to micromanage your veterinarian, and is by no means all-inclusive. Instead, use it as a guideline to ask questions. Your veterinarian will be glad to ease your mind about the type of anesthetic(s) he intends to use, and why.

  • Barbiturates (pentobarbital, thiopental, thiamylal, methohexital)
    Potential for respiratory depression with excessive doses. Contraindicated in pregnant cats. Prolonged anesthetic recovery can also be a problem when barbiturates are used in older animals, obese animals (which require higher dosage), or other animals with compromised hepatic and renal function which decreases metabolism of the drugs.1 According to Oklahoma State University, pentobarbital is no longer used for anesthetic induction due to its prolonged rough recovery.
  • Ketamine
    Potential for depressed cardiac function; compromise respiratory function, including apnea (failure to breathe and/or sudden pulmonary edema (fluid in the lungs) for cats with cardiac disease or severe debilitation. Contraindicated for cases of head trauma, or cats with kidney failure.
  • Propofol (sold as PropoFlo, Rapinovet, and Dipravan) Can cause apnea when inducted quickly, and overdosage can cause cardiac arrest, however ordinarily there are minimal effects on the cardiovascular system.
  • Acepromazine
    Because it is not an analgesic, acepromazine is usually used in conjunction with another sedative. It is contraindicated in animals with CNS (central nervous system) lesions, and can sometimes cause hypothermia.
  • Halothane (inhalant)
    Cardiopulmonary depresssion, and a risk of malignant hyperthermia in some breeds/strains.1
  • Isoflurane (inhalant)
    Respiratory depression and cardiovascular depression.1




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Thanks for the response!  He did have the isoflurane gas, supposedly the safest.  Past vet used IMs and if something goes wrong, they can't bring them out (had a cat die that way after an operation). 


Stayed up til 3A and fell asleep, but off to Vet now.  Did get him to eat wet food for breakfast, and his breathing is still ragged.  I've had cats (and some dogs) all my life and never seen this before. Smiley Sad  Leo just had this same procedure 3 mos. ago without any problems at home.


Your personal story...LOL, but know it wasn't fun to experience!

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Bummer Spd. Hope Leo is OK and give him our best.


There's a huge disparity between people and pet surgery. With people only a trained anesthesiologists can administer an anesthetic to put you under while with pets any vet can do it. I'm sure this has to do with costs. The exceptions may be horses and large exotic animals.


With dogs/cats even interns and other staff can administer antithetics under the supervision of the vet. At the spay/neuter clinic I take our pets to for vacs I've seen where this isn't even close supervision since it's like an assembly line. Wouldn't even take our pets there but I can closely watch the vet administer the vaccines and a series for Charlie is $26 compared to $126 at our regular vet for the exact same meds.


Actually we've quit getting our cats vacinated yealy because it's so hard on them and the horror stories I've read about. But will do it every 3 years just to keep their rabies vacs up to date.


Wife and I gave Charlie a bath Sun and the big boy is looking/smelling real purty!


edit: meant to say some real good info to know CJ and thanks!



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Back in the 1980's we had a Yorkshire Terrier....teacup size.  She weighed only 4 1/4 lbs. at her heaviest.  When she was 1 yr. old we had her spayed and the vet was quite concerned about the size of the dosage of the anesthetic.  He told me that with a dog that tiny he used only two or three drops of whatever he gave her.  I don't remember what it was.  He also mentioned that finding the ovaries on a dog that small was like looking for a couple of BB's in a pumpkin.  She came through it in fine shape and we enjoyed her company and comical antics for 14 years.


Next week Alfie will have his annual checkup and get his shots.  Even though three year rabies shots are Missouri he must have the rabies shot every year.  Seems silly since he is never allowed to run free in an unrestricted area so a chance encounter with a rabid animal is almost negligible.   He usually feels a bit under the weather for a day but loss of appetite is about the only symptom.  Then he's back to his old self.

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