CBS Being dropped

CBS Being dropped

Not from UVerse, but from TWC.  This showed up on Facebook from my local CBS Station.

 

And folks say that only AT&T loses channels.

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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dhascall wrote:

marcindublin wrote:

Is there a reason why a cable company couldn't install an antenna in their DVR's and set top boxes and feed over-the-air programming directly into the DVR/STB based on the channel that is selected

 


It has already been done.  Several DBS boxes (Dish and Direct) have had built in ATSC and NTSC tuners. 


Having an antenna in the box is one thing.  Being in a area where the antenna will do you any good is quite another.  I for one live about 50 miles away from Sutro Tower (San Francisco's main TV transmitter), and who knows how much farther from the NBC affiliate's antenna - and on top of that, I have hills to the south that block line of sight.  OTA reception is virtually impossible, especially with an indoor antenna that would be small enough to fit in a cable box..

 

It may just come down to who blinks first.  I remember a situation years ago where ABC (in its pre-Disney days) demanded that a small cable company that served about 40,000 people make room for ESPN2 when it first came out or it would pull the local ABC station; the company refused (IIRC, they couldn't free up any channels without breaking an existing contract), and for the better part of a year, the only ABC shows that city got were the Oscars and a Monday Night Football game the nearby team was playing.

 

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That Don Guy wrote:

dhascall wrote:

marcindublin wrote:

Is there a reason why a cable company couldn't install an antenna in their DVR's and set top boxes and feed over-the-air programming directly into the DVR/STB based on the channel that is selected

 


It has already been done.  Several DBS boxes (Dish and Direct) have had built in ATSC and NTSC tuners. 


Having an antenna in the box is one thing.  Being in a area where the antenna will do you any good is quite another.  I for one live about 50 miles away from Sutro Tower (San Francisco's main TV transmitter), and who knows how much farther from the NBC affiliate's antenna - and on top of that, I have hills to the south that block line of sight.  OTA reception is virtually impossible, especially with an indoor antenna that would be small enough to fit in a cable box..

 

It may just come down to who blinks first.  I remember a situation years ago where ABC (in its pre-Disney days) demanded that a small cable company that served about 40,000 people make room for ESPN2 when it first came out or it would pull the local ABC station; the company refused (IIRC, they couldn't free up any channels without breaking an existing contract), and for the better part of a year, the only ABC shows that city got were the Oscars and a Monday Night Football game the nearby team was playing.

 


Geography is a huge part of the OTA equation as is RF channel placement.  Two of our local stations are on high VHF.  The rest are on UHF.  High VHF is problematic.   I complained that at only 12 miles, I can't get WTHR 13 (RF 13) and WISH 8 (RF 9).  The WTHR CE actually came to my house!  We talked about 30 minutes.  He explained that folks 30-60 miles away (flatter Indiana, of course) could get better OTA than some close in.  NTSC was okay because sometimes the picture got a ghost or some snow BUT it came in.  ATSC if it's only partly in, you get no picture until it decodes for a certain time, with limited errors.

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The deadline is now after the weekend. 

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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Before U-verse was available, I was a Dish subscriber.  When HD first became available, most of my local OTA broadcasters were doing some digital/HD broadcasting - especially the network programming.  Since Dish wasn't on board, I resorted to an outside antenna for the local OTA broadcasters, since they were all around 35 miles away, I needed more than just an inside antenna.  At the time, also the Dish receiver/DVR had the capability of receiving digital broadcasts through an input from my antenna cable.  Not only did it make possible digital reception, but the channels were included in the programming grid available from the receiver/DVR - and were included in what was available to record.  That worked until U-verse. The U-verse receiver/DVR doesn't have an input for my antenna.  And, since some local stations are not included in what I receive from U-verse, I purchased a Tivo specifically to receive the channels U-verse doesn't carry and are available OTA.  $19/month ain't bad to receive the rest of the channels, and with Tivo, I can record not only the ones U-verse doesn't carry, but those local stations U-verse does carry as well.

 

I don't know how important CBS may be to the Time Warner subscribers, but with an external antenna and a Tivo, they may decide they don't need Time Warner at all.

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Time Warner customers face 5:00 PM blackout of there local CBS station there always last minute deal with these things but it looks real ugly for them .
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The deadline got pushed back to 8pm Et. Monday and it's after 8pm Et. haven't heard any news yet. Anyone know?

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sportsman_1 wrote:

The deadline got pushed back to 8pm Et. Monday and it's after 8pm Et. haven't heard any news yet. Anyone know?


Apparently TWC pulled the plug and then brought them back up, as negotiations resumed. 

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I have a work colleague that has TWC here in the DFW area and she lost CBS for about 1/2 an hour.  The blackout seems to only effect CBS O&O stations (the same ones that have on demand on UVerse).

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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The really pulled the channels today. I'm kind of surprised:

 

"With changes in technology complicating the balance of power between television creators and distributors, CBS and Time Warner Cable failed to reach an agreement on fees Friday after weeks of talks and multiple deadline extensions, resulting in the broadcaster's flagship network going dark for the cable giant's subscribers in several major U.S. cities."

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57596827-93/time-warner-cable-drops-cbs-as-talks-over-fees-fall-sho...

 

 

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Well that is sad i guess TWC loss will be other providers gain .
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We should all go register over at the TWC forums and be one post wonders!!  Isn't that the way it happens here?  Does Hallmark ring a bell?

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BeeBeeSA wrote:

We should all go register over at the TWC forums and be one post wonders!!  Isn't that the way it happens here?  Does Hallmark ring a bell?


OMG, too funny BeeBee.  I may have to go troll there for a while. Smiley Wink

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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Ok, enough trolling.  TWC mods are accusing CBS of demanding a 600% increase.  It's rather comical.  I cannot believe that CBS is trying to charge more than any sports network. 

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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I guess to the people who have Bright House Networks. It involves them as well:

 

http://onyourside.brighthouse.com/content/retrans/home-page/national.html

 

I know I would have Bright House Networks here in the Metro Detroit area if it wasn't for U-Verse. Thank goodness I have U-verse. 

 

 

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Bad thing for them they will miss CBS college football and NFL Sunday Football .
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