Suggested new features for total home DVR

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Suggested new features for total home DVR

I am not seeing many places to communicate to AT&T suggestions for upgraded features, but being a Tivo user for over 7 years there are definitely some things I miss with my u-verse DVR that I would like to see added

 

1. Pause Live TV when you are not recording on all boxes, not just the DVR.  Tivo has a 30 minute lag time for whatever is airing where you can pause and rewind even if you aren't recording that specific program

2. When setting up recordings, there needs to be functionality to limit the number of recordings that are scheduled - ie keep 5 or 10 episodes for programs you record daily.

3. Most importantly, the ability to transfer programs from your DVR to your PC and the convert to an iPod.  You can do this with the Tivo Desktop upgrade for $30 and it is great.... I miss it so much I might have to set up my tivo in addition to the At&T DVR.

 

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Professor

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Have you taken any time searching the forums? Your suggestions have been suggested here quite a number of times. The pause/rewind on regular STB's is rumored to be a part of the next THDVR upgrade (no release date published). The other two have been asked about ad nauseum. No clue if they will ever be included as AT&T doesn't tip off their customers or the competition when they are making improvements.
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ACE - Master

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For help with #3 see here:

 

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Dazzle/

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Teacher

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That is as good as you can do with a locked system.

Catch the S-video and recompress it in real time. Not quite the same thing as a digital copy.

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Teacher

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The only real way you can get ATT to do any of this is to vote with your feet as I have done.

When U-verse incorporates  enough of the features I will be back.

It is kind of like back in the early days of automobiles people bought cars without air conditioning, heaters, radios, CD players, power windows, or  power seats. They had know idea how primitive the cars were. If they had owned one of  today's cars at that time they would know how primitive it was to have to hand crank the engine to get it to start. Hand cranking was just how you started your car and every other car.

 

The U-verse DVR with 4 recording streams and HD is better than anything of the shelf as far as that goes but there is more to a car than one great motor. I would like electric start and a heater. There are lots of bells a whistles I prefer to use every day. Until U-verse catches up I will be using them on my TIVO  with an inferior channel line up. I am convinced that most U-verse users have not had a full TIVO experience. Just as back in the VCR days there were owners who never set the clock there are TIVO owners who do not use what they have and do not realize what they could have. There are far more DVR owners who do not realize what they could have. All DVRs are not created equal. We know that U-verse does record 4 programs well and shares them well also. I run a program on my laptop every week to find conflicts where one TIVO want to record more than 2 show and find recording time on one of the other TIVOs to record that program. Wish I had a better way. I can record 6 programs at one time but I have to work at it to get all my programs recorded. We end up recording a lot of programs 2 or 3 times. I do not search for duplicates.

 

A DVRs job is to have as much programming you want to watch as passable and be responsive as passable delivering it to you when you want it.

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Johnd01 wrote:

 

 I am convinced that most U-verse users have not had a full TIVO experience.


In addition to the U-verse DVR, I have 2 Tivo HD DVR's, and I am very pleased with the U-verse DVR.  There functions that Tivo has that the U-verse DVR does not have. Also, there are functions that the U-verse DVR has that the Tivo DVR does not have.

 

Are you saying that anyone who likes the U-verse DVR just doesn't know any better?

 

 

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Contributor

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which product?

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Teacher

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texasguy37 wrote:

Johnd01 wrote:

 

 I am convinced that most U-verse users have not had a full TIVO experience.


In addition to the U-verse DVR, I have 2 Tivo HD DVR's, and I am very pleased with the U-verse DVR.  There functions that Tivo has that the U-verse DVR does not have. Also, there are functions that the U-verse DVR has that the Tivo DVR does not have.

 

Are you saying that anyone who likes the U-verse DVR just doesn't know any better?

Not everyone but I feel quite a few... There are TIVO owners that do not use all that TIVO can do.

You here about pause live TV... A good TIVO will not see live TV unless it is the program that is on when the TV is turned on and then only if they really like it. In that case they will rewind to the start and may even get a season pass. The rest of the time they watch recorded programs. There are users who only record a few shows and watch most TV live.

I have 3 HDVR2 (old) TIVOs which have upgraded disks. The smallest one is 800 hours of SD. I have networked them so I can manage them from my computers. We record most shows by wish list using an actor or director as the key word. We have over 400 wish list items and 2500 hours of programming spread over the 3 TIVOs. We still get a lot of Clint Eastwood programs, the first wish list item my wife put in her TIVO.

I find new show by using keyword "pilot" in wish list. by using actors names rather than show titles when a program changes networks I still get the show. I wish the reverse slow motion and frame by frame were better.

The U-verse box was not as responsive as TIVO and could not hold as much programming. I tried for a month and a half to get family members to use it.

What part of U-Verse do you like the best?

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Johnd01 wrote:

 


texasguy37 wrote:

Johnd01 wrote:

 

 I am convinced that most U-verse users have not had a full TIVO experience.


In addition to the U-verse DVR, I have 2 Tivo HD DVR's, and I am very pleased with the U-verse DVR.  There functions that Tivo has that the U-verse DVR does not have. Also, there are functions that the U-verse DVR has that the Tivo DVR does not have.

 

Are you saying that anyone who likes the U-verse DVR just doesn't know any better?

Not everyone but I feel quite a few... There are TIVO owners that do not use all that TIVO can do.

You here about pause live TV... A good TIVO will not see live TV unless it is the program that is on when the TV is turned on and then only if they really like it. In that case they will rewind to the start and may even get a season pass. The rest of the time they watch recorded programs. There are users who only record a few shows and watch most TV live.

I have 3 HDVR2 (old) TIVOs which have upgraded disks. The smallest one is 800 hours of SD. I have networked them so I can manage them from my computers. We record most shows by wish list using an actor or director as the key word. We have over 400 wish list items and 2500 hours of programming spread over the 3 TIVOs. We still get a lot of Clint Eastwood programs, the first wish list item my wife put in her TIVO.

I find new show by using keyword "pilot" in wish list. by using actors names rather than show titles when a program changes networks I still get the show. I wish the reverse slow motion and frame by frame were better.

The U-verse box was not as responsive as TIVO and could not hold as much programming. I tried for a month and a half to get family members to use it.

What part of U-Verse do you like the best?


 

Just one question.  If you currently have 2500 hours of programming how would you ever catch up?  A normal work year is 2080 hours...

 


I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent AT&T's position, strategies or opinion.
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ACE - Master

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Johnd01 wrote:
I am convinced that most U-verse users have not had a full TIVO experience.
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Your correct.  We haven't had that privilege.  Years ago I checked into TIVO.  We were subscribers to Direct TV for 12 years & I thought maybe we would use TIVO with that service.  But there was no way I was going to pay the subscription fees to DTV AND then turn around and pay more monthly fees to another company just for the privilege of using their equipment that I had to purchase from them.   You like it....and it's worth the extra expense to you.  Great. Go for it if you can afford it.

 

 

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. .......Margaret Thatcher
*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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Teacher

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hpmsrm wrote:

 

Your correct.  We haven't had that privilege.  Years ago I checked into TIVO.  We were subscribers to Direct TV for 12 years & I thought maybe we would use TIVO with that service.  But there was no way I was going to pay the subscription fees to DTV AND then turn around and pay more monthly fees to another company just for the privilege of using their equipment that I had to purchase from them.   You like it...And it's worth the extra expense to you.  Great. Go for it if you can afford it.

 

 


 

 

There is a DVR fee of about $6 that covers the first 8 DVRs (you have to pay $ 6 again for DVRs 9-16)

The same fee comes into play for DTVs own DVR as well. All the DVRs can record 2 shows but bill at the same rate as an extra receiver. I did pay for life time accounts on my 3 TIVOs I used on Comcast. I think that was $150 each.

 

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ACE - Master

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Unfortunately U-Verse may never be able to offer what TIVO / Direct TV / Comcast / Whoever users want.  There are patented things that each service has (except maybe U-Verse :smileywink: ) but that is just  how it goes.  I like lots about UV and try to put up with the things that I don't.

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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Click_clack wrote:

Johnd01 wrote:

 


texasguy37 wrote:

Johnd01 wrote:

 

 I am convinced that most U-verse users have not had a full TIVO experience.


In addition to the U-verse DVR, I have 2 Tivo HD DVR's, and I am very pleased with the U-verse DVR.  There functions that Tivo has that the U-verse DVR does not have. Also, there are functions that the U-verse DVR has that the Tivo DVR does not have.

 

Are you saying that anyone who likes the U-verse DVR just doesn't know any better?

Not everyone but I feel quite a few... There are TIVO owners that do not use all that TIVO can do.

You here about pause live TV... A good TIVO will not see live TV unless it is the program that is on when the TV is turned on and then only if they really like it. In that case they will rewind to the start and may even get a season pass. The rest of the time they watch recorded programs. There are users who only record a few shows and watch most TV live.

I have 3 HDVR2 (old) TIVOs which have upgraded disks. The smallest one is 800 hours of SD. I have networked them so I can manage them from my computers. We record most shows by wish list using an actor or director as the key word. We have over 400 wish list items and 2500 hours of programming spread over the 3 TIVOs. We still get a lot of Clint Eastwood programs, the first wish list item my wife put in her TIVO.

I find new show by using keyword "pilot" in wish list. by using actors names rather than show titles when a program changes networks I still get the show. I wish the reverse slow motion and frame by frame were better.

The U-verse box was not as responsive as TIVO and could not hold as much programming. I tried for a month and a half to get family members to use it.

What part of U-Verse do you like the best?


 

Just one question.  If you currently have 2500 hours of programming how would you ever catch up?  A normal work year is 2080 hours...


 

 

Short answer: We do not try. It is just there if we feel like watching something. Kind of like having your own video store at home.

 

Longer answer:

We do not come close to watching the programming... It is just there if we want to see it.

We have a bunch of stuff that is years old. In stead of a shelf full of tape and DVDs we keep most of what we like on the disk. We also have it sorted by whoso DVR it is on... Kids have one wife an other and I have 2 TIVO and DT HD DVR  HR23-700 what ever they had last summer. I forget what model that is. I do not use it much. We recorded the supper bowl 3 times. Tried the HD version and went back to TIVO SD because it has better slow motion and frame advance. There was a time I had all "The West Wing" (TWW) on my TIVO. I came to TWW late. I had 4 of the TWW actors in my wish list and one channel started showing it again. I went back to the beginning and watched all the shows I did not remember and and most of the rest of them.

 

Still when an average show is recorded at our house it lives for 30 to 60 days and dies to make room for more stuff. Some times we will watch several shows in a series then not watch any of it for a month. We just watched 4 episodes of the The Good Wife Saturday. We record enough that when lots of shows are in reruns we are still watching first runs.

Sweeps months seem to have a lot better shows than others so we will catch enough programming then to not need to record anything until the next sweeps.

 

Messing with TIVO as apposed to watching TIVO is a hobby as well.

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I guess since I tossed all my vcr tapes and don't keep a video library, I didn't get it.  And I got away from series programs a while back so I am more into movies (i get all the movie channels), sports, history channels, smithsonian, those types of shows.  (I still can't believe I have a fishing channel in HD) If I tape something it  won't stay on the DVR for more than a couple weeks, maybe a month. If I don't watch it in that time, I prolly didn't want to watch it anyway, so ZAP.

 

But, I do remember those days, so ok, now I get it.  But dang, that's gotta be tough keeping up with all that and what's stored where......glad my wife doesn't read these forums, may give her ideas I don't want her to have!!:smileysurprised:

 

 


I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don't necessarily represent AT&T's position, strategies or opinion.
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Johnd01 wrote:

 

Short answer: We do not try. It is just there if we feel like watching something. Kind of like having your own video store at home.

 

Longer answer:

We do not come close to watching the programming... It is just there if we want to see it.

We have a bunch of stuff that is years old. In stead of a shelf full of tape and DVDs we keep most of what we like on the disk. We also have it sorted by whoso DVR it is on... Kids have one wife an other and I have 2 TIVO and DT HD DVR  HR23-700 what ever they had last summer. I forget what model that is. I do not use it much. We recorded the supper bowl 3 times. Tried the HD version and went back to TIVO SD because it has better slow motion and frame advance. There was a time I had all "The West Wing" (TWW) on my TIVO. I came to TWW late. I had 4 of the TWW actors in my wish list and one channel started showing it again. I went back to the beginning and watched all the shows I did not remember and and most of the rest of them.

 

Still when an average show is recorded at our house it lives for 30 to 60 days and dies to make room for more stuff. Some times we will watch several shows in a series then not watch any of it for a month. We just watched 4 episodes of the The Good Wife Saturday. We record enough that when lots of shows are in reruns we are still watching first runs.

Sweeps months seem to have a lot better shows than others so we will catch enough programming then to not need to record anything until the next sweeps.

 

Messing with TIVO as apposed to watching TIVO is a hobby as well.


It sounds like you use your DVR's in a way that the majority of people do not use their DVR's (i.e. long term archiving of programming). 

 

 

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