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Copying from VHS or Recorded Films on DVR to DVD.

Hi- I have been trying to copy VHS tapes to DVD but get a message that I can not copy to the Disc. Also, Recorded programs will not record to DVR. I find it hard to believe that I can copy to VHS but not to DVD.

Is there a way to achieve this? Any help would be appreciated.

Hi- I have been trying to copy VHS tapes to DVD but get a message that I can not copy to the Disc. Also, Recorded programs will not record to DVR. I find it hard to believe that I can copy to VHS but not to DVD.

Is there a way to achieve this? Any help would be appreciated.

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denniskane wrote:

Hi- I have been trying to copy VHS tapes to DVD but get a message that I can not copy to the Disc. Also, Recorded programs will not record to DVR. I find it hard to believe that I can copy to VHS but not to DVD.

Is there a way to achieve this? Any help would be appreciated.


 

There are no inputs on the dvr that would allow you to record anything on your DVR.

 

If you are trying to record from the DVR to a DVD, the DRM software on the DVR is preventing that.  It has to do with copyright laws. 

 

If you want to record videos from a vhs tape to a DVD, then try connecting the vhs deck directly to the dvd recorder and you should be albe to record them.

 

I don't know if this answers your question, because you mentioned recording to two different sources.

 


denniskane wrote:

Hi- I have been trying to copy VHS tapes to DVD but get a message that I can not copy to the Disc. Also, Recorded programs will not record to DVR. I find it hard to believe that I can copy to VHS but not to DVD.

Is there a way to achieve this? Any help would be appreciated.


 

There are no inputs on the dvr that would allow you to record anything on your DVR.

 

If you are trying to record from the DVR to a DVD, the DRM software on the DVR is preventing that.  It has to do with copyright laws. 

 

If you want to record videos from a vhs tape to a DVD, then try connecting the vhs deck directly to the dvd recorder and you should be albe to record them.

 

I don't know if this answers your question, because you mentioned recording to two different sources.

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Can you comment if something has recently CHANGED in the copyright protection or laws?

 

Until very recently, I was easily able to playback (most) shows recorded to DVR, and to then burn them to an attached DVD recorder.  (Movies seemed to be protected; however most network TV shows were easily burnable to DVD.)  This was quite useful for catching up on past TV episodes during long airplane flights, etc.

 

It seems that recently, even this capability has nearly entirely disappeared.

 

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Can you comment if something has recently CHANGED in the copyright protection or laws?

 

Until very recently, I was easily able to playback (most) shows recorded to DVR, and to then burn them to an attached DVD recorder.  (Movies seemed to be protected; however most network TV shows were easily burnable to DVD.)  This was quite useful for catching up on past TV episodes during long airplane flights, etc.

 

It seems that recently, even this capability has nearly entirely disappeared.

 

Eric

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I didn't know if the DRM was limited to movies only.  As far as I know it was across the board.  But if you were able to record tv programs until recently then they must be getting around to initiating it for television programs as well.  The only workaround I know of is to buy a video adaptor that will take the component outputs (red, green, and blue rca outputs) into a device and convert them to a composite output (yellow rca plug)  You will also have to connect audio cables to the red and white rca plugs also.  Or you will not record the audio from the program.

I didn't know if the DRM was limited to movies only.  As far as I know it was across the board.  But if you were able to record tv programs until recently then they must be getting around to initiating it for television programs as well.  The only workaround I know of is to buy a video adaptor that will take the component outputs (red, green, and blue rca outputs) into a device and convert them to a composite output (yellow rca plug)  You will also have to connect audio cables to the red and white rca plugs also.  Or you will not record the audio from the program.

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Using the Dazzle device from Pinnacle you could copy VHS movies or movies & programs recorded on your DVR to your computer and then burn them to DVD if you wish burn them directly to DVD using the DVD drive in your PC.  I've done it many times.

 

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Dazzle/

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Using the Dazzle device from Pinnacle you could copy VHS movies or movies & programs recorded on your DVR to your computer and then burn them to DVD if you wish burn them directly to DVD using the DVD drive in your PC.  I've done it many times.

 

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/PublicSite/us/Products/Consumer+Products/Dazzle/

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Thanks for the advice but there are still problems. I have no trouble copying from the DVR to VHS. However, I do not seem to be able, in most times, to Copy from the DVR to DVD, nor can I copy from VHS tape to DVD. If there is a copywright problem, I would understand it but, why won't the DVD recorder record?

Thanks for the advice but there are still problems. I have no trouble copying from the DVR to VHS. However, I do not seem to be able, in most times, to Copy from the DVR to DVD, nor can I copy from VHS tape to DVD. If there is a copywright problem, I would understand it but, why won't the DVD recorder record?

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You are probably fighting with the Digital Broadcast Protection Flags that are encoded into the program content from more and more broadcasters.  These basically allow you to record on a temporary media device such as your DVR but not to permanent media such as a DVD.  Most newer DVD recorders are require to detect and block recording a signal if the protection flag is set.  Most shows on HBO and Showtime do this, for some networks like TCM it is hit and miss. The flags can actually be set to prevent you from recording Pay-Per-View movies and sporting events on your DVR. I have heard rumors that they can also be set to to make content on your DVR viewable for only a set amount of time after recording (say 14 days, for example.)

 

I believe there might be equipment available that will defeat this, I don't know how legal it is, you can probably search on the internet and find it it if you are interested.

 

For more info on this see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_flag

 

Incidentally, people that own older DVD recorders are often able to record TV programs because many of the first generation DVD recorders don't respond to Digital Broadcast Protection Flags.

 

Hope this helps.

You are probably fighting with the Digital Broadcast Protection Flags that are encoded into the program content from more and more broadcasters.  These basically allow you to record on a temporary media device such as your DVR but not to permanent media such as a DVD.  Most newer DVD recorders are require to detect and block recording a signal if the protection flag is set.  Most shows on HBO and Showtime do this, for some networks like TCM it is hit and miss. The flags can actually be set to prevent you from recording Pay-Per-View movies and sporting events on your DVR. I have heard rumors that they can also be set to to make content on your DVR viewable for only a set amount of time after recording (say 14 days, for example.)

 

I believe there might be equipment available that will defeat this, I don't know how legal it is, you can probably search on the internet and find it it if you are interested.

 

For more info on this see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_flag

 

Incidentally, people that own older DVD recorders are often able to record TV programs because many of the first generation DVD recorders don't respond to Digital Broadcast Protection Flags.

 

Hope this helps.

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Let me add to my previous post.....

 

The reason you can't record from different sources is because of the copy protection built into your DVD recorder.  In other words if the video content has a copy protection flag set to prevent copying and your recorder is designed to detect them (which most of the newer ones do) you won't be able to record it.  The video content can be from live TV, a set top DVR, or a DVD.  Most analog devices (like your VHS recorder) don't respond to these protection flags so there is no problem using them to record.

 

What makes it more confusing is that not all networks set these flags on all of their content, thus you might be able to dub off a copy of one movie from TCM that you saved on your DVR, but not another recorded the same day.

Let me add to my previous post.....

 

The reason you can't record from different sources is because of the copy protection built into your DVD recorder.  In other words if the video content has a copy protection flag set to prevent copying and your recorder is designed to detect them (which most of the newer ones do) you won't be able to record it.  The video content can be from live TV, a set top DVR, or a DVD.  Most analog devices (like your VHS recorder) don't respond to these protection flags so there is no problem using them to record.

 

What makes it more confusing is that not all networks set these flags on all of their content, thus you might be able to dub off a copy of one movie from TCM that you saved on your DVR, but not another recorded the same day.

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