AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

Is AT&T dropping high speed packages that are available for DSL (ADSL) to attempt to get users onto Uverse ?

I've been on the 1500-3000/384-512kbps package for a few years now, and it isn't available anymore from either DSL-Extreme, Sonic or AT&T.  What gives ?
AT&T has spent the past couple of months taking out 'extra' lengths of wire, and my available sync rate is +5Mbps


Downstream Upstream SNR Margin (dB): 14.6  16.0
  Attenuation (dB): 48.0  31.0
  Output Power (dBm): 13.6  10.3
  Attainable Rate (Kbps): 5376  984
  Rate (Kbps): 1984  512
  K (number of bytes in DMT frame): 63  17
  R (number of check bytes in RS code word): 0  0
  S (RS code word size in DMT frame): 1  1 
 D (interleaver depth): 0  0 
 Delay (msec): 0  0 

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Scholar

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

I found all 3 packages on their site located at: LINK




Message Edited by Creeper on 11-07-2007 04:35 PM
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Professor

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

And technically they can't do that becuase U-verse is only available in limited areas. So they would be losing money/customers by dropping their highest package.
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Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

After you 'Check availability' what comes up ?
If I attempt to order, all I get is the 1.5Mbps and lower packages.
In the past, I had the 'pro' (3.0Mbps) package as well as an option.

I'm not the first to notice this.  Is AT&T, dropping the 'Elite' or 'Pro' availability in some areas that are Uverse enabled as an enticement to get them onto Uverse ?
I.e on DSL-Ex, one customer went for renewal, and the 6.0 package is gone (which was being used)
In my case, the 3.0 package is gone (which I currently susbcribe to, and have for a few years).

I'm assuming that if I called up C.S. to order it, after being bumped to a lower package, they would state that it is no longer available at my address, but I could get it or better if I got Uverse service. :robotmad:




Message Edited by formercanuck on 11-07-2007 05:27 PM
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Professor

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

When I checked availablility, I got all of the packages including pro and elite.


Message Edited by Uturnaroun on 11-07-2007 09:50 PM
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Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

Are you CO or RT based ?

I know that if I'm downgraded to 1.5/384, I may have to jump over to Cable for POTS (VoIP) and Internet until my DirecTv expires (I use DSL for remote support work.. 1.5/384kbps is not very supportable for X11/Remote Desktop/SCP/SSH sessions).  Too bad AT&T doesn't offer Uverse packages that don't include TV.
Message 6 of 48
Professor

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

To find out where your CO is, you can use the CO finder tool on DSLreports here: http://www.dslreports.com/coinfo

My CO for example is: HSTNTXLA

They used to have a tool to actually determine a wireline distance estimate from your address to the CO, but they took it down.


Message Edited by Koolkid1935 on 11-07-2007 10:55 PM
Message 7 of 48
Scholar

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

You might want to post over at the AT&T Direct Forums at Broadbandreports.com.  Mine does not come up with Elite as being available since I am 47' to far away from the CO for it.  They were able to get me my Elite package since my line was clean.
Message 8 of 48

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

Yeah, I already posted over there.  DSL-Ex will allow me to keep my existing plan (Pro)
I know my CO is CO NHLLCA01 and I've been told I'm at 13,000'.
Why, after 3 years of 'pro' speed would AT&T cut it down to 'express' ?  Specifically after spending months of line conditioning in my area.
Modem shows that I can typically sync between 4900kbps at 6000kbps.


Message Edited by formercanuck on 11-08-2007 11:43 AM
Message 9 of 48
Professor

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?



formercanuck wrote:
Are you CO or RT based ?

I know that if I'm downgraded to 1.5/384, I may have to jump over to Cable for POTS (VoIP) and Internet until my DirecTv expires (I use DSL for remote support work.. 1.5/384kbps is not very supportable for X11/Remote Desktop/SCP/SSH sessions).  Too bad AT&T doesn't offer Uverse packages that don't include TV.


Actually U-verse does have an internet only package. So you can get it without the TV.
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Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

Can you point me to where this is offered ?  I'd like to get Uverse Internet + VoIP.
Message 11 of 48
Professor

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

They don't have it listed online. If you call, the rep should be able to give you the details.
Message 12 of 48
Expert

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

That's what I thought, too!  I asked Tier II about it the other day, and was told, no--you still have to order it with TV and then drop TV, keep Internet.  But I know I've read otherwise???

Uturnaroun wrote:


formercanuck wrote:
Are you CO or RT based ?

I know that if I'm downgraded to 1.5/384, I may have to jump over to Cable for POTS (VoIP) and Internet until my DirecTv expires (I use DSL for remote support work.. 1.5/384kbps is not very supportable for X11/Remote Desktop/SCP/SSH sessions).  Too bad AT&T doesn't offer Uverse packages that don't include TV.


Actually U-verse does have an internet only package. So you can get it without the TV.



Message 13 of 48
Contributor

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

No at&t isnt dropping the higher speed tiers but they are putting more strict limitations on distance from rt/co so end user recieves a better speed for the $$--they don't want someone with elite for 34.99 to be 14kft away and getting slow service.
Message 14 of 48

Re: AT&T dropping high end DSL to get users on Uverse ?

The flip side of that is having to go from Pro down to Express where the cost difference is minimal.
Having good sync at 3008/512kbps and being told that you can purchase PPPoE 1500/384 service for $5 less.
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