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How to Bridge PACE 5031 NV to 3rd Party Router?

People say it's a lot like the 2Wire 3600, but the menus don't look the same to me.

I Happily follow instructions with screenshots.

My local tech geek is not able to handle this for some reason... Help?

People say it's a lot like the 2Wire 3600, but the menus don't look the same to me.

I Happily follow instructions with screenshots.

My local tech geek is not able to handle this for some reason... Help?

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Got my internet speed (cake) and gigabit LAN (eating it, too)! The trick I believe was 'Attack Detection' in advanced FW settings.

See here: http://forums.att.com/t5/Device-Setup/AT-amp-T-Modem-Router-Apple-Airport-Extreme/td-p/3607835#.Uw1oVfldUoA

There is no true bridge mode on the 2Wire routers. However, you can still configure it such that almost all functions of your own router will work properly.
1. Set your router's WAN interface to get an IP address via DHCP. This is required at first so that the 2Wire recognizes your router.
2. Plug your router's WAN interface to one of the 2Wire's LAN interfaces.
3. Restart your router, let it get an IP address via DHCP.
4. Log into the 2Wire router's interface. Go to Settings -> Firewall -> Applications, Pinholes, and DMZ
5. Select your router under section (1).
6. Click the DMZPlus button under section (2).
7. Click the Save button.
8. Restart your router, when it gets an address via DHCP again, it will be the public outside IP address. At this point, you can leave your router in DHCP mode (make sure the firewall on your router allows the DHCP renewal packets, which will occur every 10 minutes), or you can change your router's IP address assignment on the WAN interface to static, and use the same settings it received via DHCP.
9. On the 2Wire router, go to Settings -> Firewall -> Advanced Configuration
10. Uncheck the following: Stealth Mode, Block Ping, Strict UDP Session Control.
11. Check everything under Outbound Protocol Control except NetBIOS.
12. Uncheck NetBIOS under Inbound Protocol Control.
13. Uncheck all the Attack Detection checkboxes (7 of them).
14. Click Save.
Your router should now be able to route as if the 2Wire was a straight bridge, for the most part.
Inbound port 22 might be blocked, and inbound ports 8000-8015 might also be blocked, and there's nothing that can be done about it.
This is how I have my 2Wire configured, and I have a Cisco 2811 behind it doing IPSec, IPv6 tunnels, etc.
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I've looked every where I can think of and can not find anything on what you want to do.  Hopefully one of the community managers will stop in and address your issue./question.

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Hi robbbied,

The main page does look different between the 3600 and the 5031, but if I remember correctly, the firewall settings are the same, and that is where you need to go to make the appropriate changes to create a bridge like mode for a 3rd party device.

You want to login to https://192.168.1.254. It may ask you for a system password, which can be found on the side of your modem.

From there, click on the link to Customize Firewall

On Step 1, you want to choose the device that you want to be in "bridge" mode. If you do not see it, make sure that your router is setup on DHCP mode and directly connected to our router.

Once you have it selected, go down to Step 2 and scroll down further and choose Allow all applications (DMZplus mode).

After that you want to restart your router, and check the WAN IP Address it is getting. It should be a public IP address if everything was configured correctly.

Let us know how it goes.

If you encounter any issues with your service or equipment, I recommend checking out our Troubleshoot & Resolve solutions to help diagnose the issue.

Hi robbbied,

The main page does look different between the 3600 and the 5031, but if I remember correctly, the firewall settings are the same, and that is where you need to go to make the appropriate changes to create a bridge like mode for a 3rd party device.

You want to login to https://192.168.1.254. It may ask you for a system password, which can be found on the side of your modem.

From there, click on the link to Customize Firewall

On Step 1, you want to choose the device that you want to be in "bridge" mode. If you do not see it, make sure that your router is setup on DHCP mode and directly connected to our router.

Once you have it selected, go down to Step 2 and scroll down further and choose Allow all applications (DMZplus mode).

After that you want to restart your router, and check the WAN IP Address it is getting. It should be a public IP address if everything was configured correctly.

Let us know how it goes.

If you encounter any issues with your service or equipment, I recommend checking out our Troubleshoot & Resolve solutions to help diagnose the issue.
I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s position, strategies or opinions.
*I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s position, strategies or opinions.

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Hi David. Thank You! I am on this again first thing in the morning and will

follow your instructions; Gratefully, R

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Hi David. Thank You! I am on this again first thing in the morning and will

follow your instructions; Gratefully, R

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Thank you! An answer was given and will update in the morning… R

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Hi robbbied,

Just wanted to check with you to see if you were able to get it all setup.

If you encounter any issues with your service or equipment, I recommend checking out our Troubleshoot & Resolve solutions to help diagnose the issue.

Hi robbbied,

Just wanted to check with you to see if you were able to get it all setup.

If you encounter any issues with your service or equipment, I recommend checking out our Troubleshoot & Resolve solutions to help diagnose the issue.
I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s position, strategies or opinions.
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Hi. You're a good guy. Just on it. More to come. Thank you!

Hi. You're a good guy. Just on it. More to come. Thank you!

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You are failing to mention the 5310nv does not support true bridge mode though. I tried to hook up a 750n Linksys to my gateway to put it in the dmz for the 5310 only allows 1 unit to be in the dmz and if 2 units are sharing the same ports it flags their ip addresses and locks them offline until you reboot the 5310. I was able to get hardwired connections working through the 750 but the wireless had a constant conflict that ATT tech support and the Pace mfg. 5310 could not resolve.

You are failing to mention the 5310nv does not support true bridge mode though. I tried to hook up a 750n Linksys to my gateway to put it in the dmz for the 5310 only allows 1 unit to be in the dmz and if 2 units are sharing the same ports it flags their ip addresses and locks them offline until you reboot the 5310. I was able to get hardwired connections working through the 750 but the wireless had a constant conflict that ATT tech support and the Pace mfg. 5310 could not resolve.

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I used these instructions today to bridge a 5031NV to a D-Link DIR-655.  Everything went pretty well, except devices connected to the DLink router are getting 20-80% worse performance, websites loading slower and speed tests come back weak.  I can resolve speeds by hooking directly to the 5031, but then am limited by the local 10/100 ports instead of using the 10/100/1000 infrastructure that exists on the rest of my network Smiley Sad

 

- Any Ideas?

I used these instructions today to bridge a 5031NV to a D-Link DIR-655.  Everything went pretty well, except devices connected to the DLink router are getting 20-80% worse performance, websites loading slower and speed tests come back weak.  I can resolve speeds by hooking directly to the 5031, but then am limited by the local 10/100 ports instead of using the 10/100/1000 infrastructure that exists on the rest of my network Smiley Sad

 

- Any Ideas?

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Got my internet speed (cake) and gigabit LAN (eating it, too)! The trick I believe was 'Attack Detection' in advanced FW settings.

See here: http://forums.att.com/t5/Device-Setup/AT-amp-T-Modem-Router-Apple-Airport-Extreme/td-p/3607835#.Uw1o...

There is no true bridge mode on the 2Wire routers. However, you can still configure it such that almost all functions of your own router will work properly.
1. Set your router's WAN interface to get an IP address via DHCP. This is required at first so that the 2Wire recognizes your router.
2. Plug your router's WAN interface to one of the 2Wire's LAN interfaces.
3. Restart your router, let it get an IP address via DHCP.
4. Log into the 2Wire router's interface. Go to Settings -> Firewall -> Applications, Pinholes, and DMZ
5. Select your router under section (1).
6. Click the DMZPlus button under section (2).
7. Click the Save button.
8. Restart your router, when it gets an address via DHCP again, it will be the public outside IP address. At this point, you can leave your router in DHCP mode (make sure the firewall on your router allows the DHCP renewal packets, which will occur every 10 minutes), or you can change your router's IP address assignment on the WAN interface to static, and use the same settings it received via DHCP.
9. On the 2Wire router, go to Settings -> Firewall -> Advanced Configuration
10. Uncheck the following: Stealth Mode, Block Ping, Strict UDP Session Control.
11. Check everything under Outbound Protocol Control except NetBIOS.
12. Uncheck NetBIOS under Inbound Protocol Control.
13. Uncheck all the Attack Detection checkboxes (7 of them).
14. Click Save.
Your router should now be able to route as if the 2Wire was a straight bridge, for the most part.
Inbound port 22 might be blocked, and inbound ports 8000-8015 might also be blocked, and there's nothing that can be done about it.
This is how I have my 2Wire configured, and I have a Cisco 2811 behind it doing IPSec, IPv6 tunnels, etc.
Got my internet speed (cake) and gigabit LAN (eating it, too)! The trick I believe was 'Attack Detection' in advanced FW settings.

See here: http://forums.att.com/t5/Device-Setup/AT-amp-T-Modem-Router-Apple-Airport-Extreme/td-p/3607835#.Uw1oVfldUoA

There is no true bridge mode on the 2Wire routers. However, you can still configure it such that almost all functions of your own router will work properly.
1. Set your router's WAN interface to get an IP address via DHCP. This is required at first so that the 2Wire recognizes your router.
2. Plug your router's WAN interface to one of the 2Wire's LAN interfaces.
3. Restart your router, let it get an IP address via DHCP.
4. Log into the 2Wire router's interface. Go to Settings -> Firewall -> Applications, Pinholes, and DMZ
5. Select your router under section (1).
6. Click the DMZPlus button under section (2).
7. Click the Save button.
8. Restart your router, when it gets an address via DHCP again, it will be the public outside IP address. At this point, you can leave your router in DHCP mode (make sure the firewall on your router allows the DHCP renewal packets, which will occur every 10 minutes), or you can change your router's IP address assignment on the WAN interface to static, and use the same settings it received via DHCP.
9. On the 2Wire router, go to Settings -> Firewall -> Advanced Configuration
10. Uncheck the following: Stealth Mode, Block Ping, Strict UDP Session Control.
11. Check everything under Outbound Protocol Control except NetBIOS.
12. Uncheck NetBIOS under Inbound Protocol Control.
13. Uncheck all the Attack Detection checkboxes (7 of them).
14. Click Save.
Your router should now be able to route as if the 2Wire was a straight bridge, for the most part.
Inbound port 22 might be blocked, and inbound ports 8000-8015 might also be blocked, and there's nothing that can be done about it.
This is how I have my 2Wire configured, and I have a Cisco 2811 behind it doing IPSec, IPv6 tunnels, etc.

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A couple days in and things are working alright.

Except sometimes pages fail to load, or become unresponsive. Tonight I got this "Error code: DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN" from Chrome when trying to navigate to a webpage. What does it mean?
A couple days in and things are working alright.

Except sometimes pages fail to load, or become unresponsive. Tonight I got this "Error code: DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN" from Chrome when trying to navigate to a webpage. What does it mean?

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Thank you g3n3parmesan.  That worked like a charm.  Very informational.  I have been trying to figure out how to do this since I switched to Uverse.  Now I can use my Cisco router again Smiley Happy

Thank you g3n3parmesan.  That worked like a charm.  Very informational.  I have been trying to figure out how to do this since I switched to Uverse.  Now I can use my Cisco router again Smiley Happy

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I cannot see my Cisco Router at all under those settings. I've put it in DHCP mode and it is connected directly to the router, but I only see wireless connections in the Firewall settings.

 

I want to use my Cisco Router instead of the PACE 5031nv because it has a much farther range and can support more devices at once. The wireless router I want to use is the Cisco Linsys E2500.

 

Please help.

I cannot see my Cisco Router at all under those settings. I've put it in DHCP mode and it is connected directly to the router, but I only see wireless connections in the Firewall settings.

 

I want to use my Cisco Router instead of the PACE 5031nv because it has a much farther range and can support more devices at once. The wireless router I want to use is the Cisco Linsys E2500.

 

Please help.

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Hi @leonheart390,

 

I am sorry about the issues you are having with connecting your Cisco E2500 with the Pace 5031. One thing to look at is to see what WAN IP address you are getting. To check:

  1. Login to your Cisco E2500
  2. Select the Status tab at the top.
  3. From there, you will see your Internet IP Address and Default Gateway

This should be the information that the Pace 5031 provides the Cisco, so you'll have an IP address that looks something like 192.168.1.x and the Default Gateway should be 192.1681.254 assuming no changes. 

 

If you are not getting that, let us know what IP you are getting. Try different Ethernet cables and ports to see if there is any issue with the physical connection.

 

Hope this helps.

 

-David T

If you encounter any issues with your service or equipment, I recommend checking out our Troubleshoot & Resolve solutions to help diagnose the issue.

Hi @leonheart390,

 

I am sorry about the issues you are having with connecting your Cisco E2500 with the Pace 5031. One thing to look at is to see what WAN IP address you are getting. To check:

  1. Login to your Cisco E2500
  2. Select the Status tab at the top.
  3. From there, you will see your Internet IP Address and Default Gateway

This should be the information that the Pace 5031 provides the Cisco, so you'll have an IP address that looks something like 192.168.1.x and the Default Gateway should be 192.1681.254 assuming no changes. 

 

If you are not getting that, let us know what IP you are getting. Try different Ethernet cables and ports to see if there is any issue with the physical connection.

 

Hope this helps.

 

-David T

If you encounter any issues with your service or equipment, I recommend checking out our Troubleshoot & Resolve solutions to help diagnose the issue.
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Hello g3n3parmesan!

I recently was switched to Uverse internet from the old AT&T DSL and had to switch to the Pace 5031NV. I was using a 2wire 2701HG-B and was able to bridge it with no problem.  I currently have a Linksys WRVS4400N v2 connected to a server.  I have a PC and a laptop that access the server through the Linksys.  The only thing I need the Pace for is the internet connection, not routing, so I "bridged" it using your instructions below.  It worked perfectly and I was able to access the internet while connected the Linksys router.  However, after a week or so, I lost service.  AT&T came out and spent a day working on my lines and determined that the line going upstairs where my server and Linksys router are located was not strong enough to receive the signal.  So they had to install the Pace downstairs where the signal was stronger.  This leaves me with a problem of either having to pay someone to rewire my house (which I rent, not own!)  so I can connect the Pace to the Linksys upstairs or just drop a long ethernet cable downstairs connecting the Linksys to the Pace everytime I need to use it.  Neither of these are really an option!  So my question, is it possible to "bridge" the Pace like I did following your instructions, but do it wirelessly, since I can't physically connect to the Linksys upstairs?  Being able to connect the Pace to Linksys wirelessly would solve the problem and save me having to rewire a rented house!!  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hello g3n3parmesan!

I recently was switched to Uverse internet from the old AT&T DSL and had to switch to the Pace 5031NV. I was using a 2wire 2701HG-B and was able to bridge it with no problem.  I currently have a Linksys WRVS4400N v2 connected to a server.  I have a PC and a laptop that access the server through the Linksys.  The only thing I need the Pace for is the internet connection, not routing, so I "bridged" it using your instructions below.  It worked perfectly and I was able to access the internet while connected the Linksys router.  However, after a week or so, I lost service.  AT&T came out and spent a day working on my lines and determined that the line going upstairs where my server and Linksys router are located was not strong enough to receive the signal.  So they had to install the Pace downstairs where the signal was stronger.  This leaves me with a problem of either having to pay someone to rewire my house (which I rent, not own!)  so I can connect the Pace to the Linksys upstairs or just drop a long ethernet cable downstairs connecting the Linksys to the Pace everytime I need to use it.  Neither of these are really an option!  So my question, is it possible to "bridge" the Pace like I did following your instructions, but do it wirelessly, since I can't physically connect to the Linksys upstairs?  Being able to connect the Pace to Linksys wirelessly would solve the problem and save me having to rewire a rented house!!  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Interesting question.  I recently installed a 'wireless bridge' in my house to support legacy (no wireless) devices in my upstairs louge.  The tricky part to this setup is finding a WiFi router you can use as your upsairs 'receiver' that can be set in bridge mode.  Not all routers/access points can do this.  I was successful repourposing a friend's old Linksys WRT54G, but I had to load DD-WRT firmware.  This allowed me to select an option that previously didn't exist, "client bridge".  Now my old softmodded gen1 Xbox gets used as a settop box without a wifi card and no wiring installed in the walls of my old house.

 

Good luck!

Interesting question.  I recently installed a 'wireless bridge' in my house to support legacy (no wireless) devices in my upstairs louge.  The tricky part to this setup is finding a WiFi router you can use as your upsairs 'receiver' that can be set in bridge mode.  Not all routers/access points can do this.  I was successful repourposing a friend's old Linksys WRT54G, but I had to load DD-WRT firmware.  This allowed me to select an option that previously didn't exist, "client bridge".  Now my old softmodded gen1 Xbox gets used as a settop box without a wifi card and no wiring installed in the walls of my old house.

 

Good luck!

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Is there a way to change the DNS settings on my 5031NV?  They appear hardcoded in and I don't feel like ATT's DNS is batting 1,000.

Is there a way to change the DNS settings on my 5031NV?  They appear hardcoded in and I don't feel like ATT's DNS is batting 1,000.

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Hi @g3n3parmesan,

 

There is not. You can however hardcode the DNS address to the device behind our router, whether it be your computer or a 3rd party router.

 

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Hi @g3n3parmesan,

 

There is not. You can however hardcode the DNS address to the device behind our router, whether it be your computer or a 3rd party router.

 

-David T

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Hi,

I'm a little green on networking.  If the 2-Wire is configured to bridge mode will it still offer any type of security or will that all be handled by the 3rd party router?

Additionally once the 2-wire has been put in bridge mode should it's wireless function be disabled?

Hi,

I'm a little green on networking.  If the 2-Wire is configured to bridge mode will it still offer any type of security or will that all be handled by the 3rd party router?

Additionally once the 2-wire has been put in bridge mode should it's wireless function be disabled?

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Edited by Phil-101 on Oct 3, 2014 at 1:12:12 PM

Robbie.  Your procedure worked perfectly, so far as the internet connection is concerned.  But as soon as I choose DMZplus mode, or disable the firewall in any way, the VOIP phone service quits working.  There's a lot of chatter about this problem - see here:  https://forums.att.com/t5/Residential-Gateway/5031NV-dmzplus-mode-affects-voice-service/td-p/3862441

 

More specifically, the phone will not dial out to a digital phone, which includes all cell phones.  Incoming calls appear to work normally, as do outgoing calls to a POTS line (like my home phone).  But if I dial a number for a cell or digital phone, there is nothing but dead air - no rings, no answer.  As soon as I turn the firewall back on, everything works again.

 

I tried another approach, but got no better result.  Under the modem's LAN tab, there's a section for IP Address Allocation where you can actually choose to map the WAN public IP to any connected device. But making this selection REQUIRES that you also disable the firewall to that device. And when you do that, the phone quits working.  They need a firmware update in the worst way!

 

If you don't need the phone service, your method of "bridging" does the trick.  Thanks for posting it.

 

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Robbie.  Your procedure worked perfectly, so far as the internet connection is concerned.  But as soon as I choose DMZplus mode, or disable the firewall in any way, the VOIP phone service quits working.  There's a lot of chatter about this problem - see here:  https://forums.att.com/t5/Residential-Gateway/5031NV-dmzplus-mode-affects-voice-service/td-p/3862441

 

More specifically, the phone will not dial out to a digital phone, which includes all cell phones.  Incoming calls appear to work normally, as do outgoing calls to a POTS line (like my home phone).  But if I dial a number for a cell or digital phone, there is nothing but dead air - no rings, no answer.  As soon as I turn the firewall back on, everything works again.

 

I tried another approach, but got no better result.  Under the modem's LAN tab, there's a section for IP Address Allocation where you can actually choose to map the WAN public IP to any connected device. But making this selection REQUIRES that you also disable the firewall to that device. And when you do that, the phone quits working.  They need a firmware update in the worst way!

 

If you don't need the phone service, your method of "bridging" does the trick.  Thanks for posting it.

 

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You saved me! I could not figure it out. Excellent step by step. I don't know if it matters but per other instructions I found online I also checked the box System Info>Event Notifications>Enable detection of router-behind-router conditions.

Question - my old modem setup in bridge mode / PPPoE with my ATT username and password. Now it's DCHP. Are there any security / firewall concerns I should be aware of?

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You saved me! I could not figure it out. Excellent step by step. I don't know if it matters but per other instructions I found online I also checked the box System Info>Event Notifications>Enable detection of router-behind-router conditions.

Question - my old modem setup in bridge mode / PPPoE with my ATT username and password. Now it's DCHP. Are there any security / firewall concerns I should be aware of?

Thanks
Josh

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I am trying to add my Cisco E2500 router, to my 2wire RG, I am familar with the process having attempted it many (too many times) without success.

The key sticking point is that I cant get my router to show up in the device list in the Applications, Pinholes, DMZ list.

I can only assume that it is not getting an IP from the RG but puzzled as to why as the router is set to DHCP.

Any ideas?

Thanks

I am trying to add my Cisco E2500 router, to my 2wire RG, I am familar with the process having attempted it many (too many times) without success.

The key sticking point is that I cant get my router to show up in the device list in the Applications, Pinholes, DMZ list.

I can only assume that it is not getting an IP from the RG but puzzled as to why as the router is set to DHCP.

Any ideas?

Thanks

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i followed the directions trying to set up my 2-wire u-verse router into this work around bridge mode. everything seems to work except the 2-wire sends my ASUS AC2400 router a 192.168.x.x DNS. i can set the DNS1 and DNS 2 manually but i think those will change with my new IP when it gets resent. any idea why the DNS's wounldnt come through set up in the DMZ plus as discribed in the setup?

i followed the directions trying to set up my 2-wire u-verse router into this work around bridge mode. everything seems to work except the 2-wire sends my ASUS AC2400 router a 192.168.x.x DNS. i can set the DNS1 and DNS 2 manually but i think those will change with my new IP when it gets resent. any idea why the DNS's wounldnt come through set up in the DMZ plus as discribed in the setup?

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Hello,

 

I have just recently gone from DSL to U-verse. I have an ASUS RG-N66U router and have been forwarding many ports to my Windows 2008R2 Server including 80, 81, 82, 443 among others with no issues with the DSL service.

 

I have followed the instructions in this thread exactlly (i think) and am almost there. I say almost because for some reason port 80 isn't working. I've used the GRC application and it confirms that 81, 82, and 443 are NOT blocked, but port 80 is. I don't see how this can be a problem on the ASUS router as it was working before the provider switch and I changed everything for every port in an identical way. This leads me to believe that there is a setting on the PACE 5031NV that is blocking port 80, or the provider is blocking port 80.  Everywhere i have read says that AT&T does not block port 80, so that leaves me with needing to change the PACE router settings.  Can anyone please let me know what they think is going on? What settings did I forget to change, or do i need to change?

 

Thanks so much for your help.

Hello,

 

I have just recently gone from DSL to U-verse. I have an ASUS RG-N66U router and have been forwarding many ports to my Windows 2008R2 Server including 80, 81, 82, 443 among others with no issues with the DSL service.

 

I have followed the instructions in this thread exactlly (i think) and am almost there. I say almost because for some reason port 80 isn't working. I've used the GRC application and it confirms that 81, 82, and 443 are NOT blocked, but port 80 is. I don't see how this can be a problem on the ASUS router as it was working before the provider switch and I changed everything for every port in an identical way. This leads me to believe that there is a setting on the PACE 5031NV that is blocking port 80, or the provider is blocking port 80.  Everywhere i have read says that AT&T does not block port 80, so that leaves me with needing to change the PACE router settings.  Can anyone please let me know what they think is going on? What settings did I forget to change, or do i need to change?

 

Thanks so much for your help.

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I attempted to setup dmzpluz mode with a ddwrt router. 

I have my router set up in DHCP for the WAN setting.  I even tried changing the router address to 192.168.2.1 so it would not interfere with 192.168.1.0/24.

In the end the ddwrt router could not see the internet and resolve any internet traffic.

 

Has anyone gotten dmzplus to work correctly with a ddwrt router? what are the settings on ddwrt if you change from dhcp to static?  I believe it may be a gateway setting that is being set wrong.  

 

I ended up setting up the cascaded router settings.

 

PACE 5031 dhcp router settings:

router address: 192.168.2.1

subnetmask: 255.255.255.0

first dhcp: 192.168.2.10

last dhcp: 192.168.2.25

 

PACE 5031 cascade settings:

check - add cascaded router

network address : 192.168.1.0

subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

choose the computer (be sure to check the radio button here)

   ddwrt - 192.168.2.2

 

 

DDWRT router WAN conneciton settings:

wan ip address 192.168.2.2

subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

gateway 192.168.2.1

static dns 1: 99.99.99.53

static dns 2: 99.99.99.153

 

Note above i changed the local ip range for the PACE 5031.  I was already using 192.168.1.0/24 localy on my ddwrt and I had static ips setup.

 

 

All in all this is a whole lot easier on comcast.  Why isn't there a bridge setting?

 

Feeback welcome.  This took about 6 hours of messing around.

To port forward I now have to port forward on the PACE and on the ddwrt.  

I attempted to setup dmzpluz mode with a ddwrt router. 

I have my router set up in DHCP for the WAN setting.  I even tried changing the router address to 192.168.2.1 so it would not interfere with 192.168.1.0/24.

In the end the ddwrt router could not see the internet and resolve any internet traffic.

 

Has anyone gotten dmzplus to work correctly with a ddwrt router? what are the settings on ddwrt if you change from dhcp to static?  I believe it may be a gateway setting that is being set wrong.  

 

I ended up setting up the cascaded router settings.

 

PACE 5031 dhcp router settings:

router address: 192.168.2.1

subnetmask: 255.255.255.0

first dhcp: 192.168.2.10

last dhcp: 192.168.2.25

 

PACE 5031 cascade settings:

check - add cascaded router

network address : 192.168.1.0

subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

choose the computer (be sure to check the radio button here)

   ddwrt - 192.168.2.2

 

 

DDWRT router WAN conneciton settings:

wan ip address 192.168.2.2

subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

gateway 192.168.2.1

static dns 1: 99.99.99.53

static dns 2: 99.99.99.153

 

Note above i changed the local ip range for the PACE 5031.  I was already using 192.168.1.0/24 localy on my ddwrt and I had static ips setup.

 

 

All in all this is a whole lot easier on comcast.  Why isn't there a bridge setting?

 

Feeback welcome.  This took about 6 hours of messing around.

To port forward I now have to port forward on the PACE and on the ddwrt.  

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Does any one know of some tests i can run from an ssh session on my ddwrt router?  I am still trying to get the dmz setup working. 

I followed the instructions exactly as stated at the beginning of this thread.  As soon as i reboot my router after setting the dmz the router is blocked from the internet.  I have tried to ping google.com from an ssh session inside my router and it times out.

 

I am not a networking expert, but there must be some test i can run in ssh to determine what is blocking the packets?

Does any one know of some tests i can run from an ssh session on my ddwrt router?  I am still trying to get the dmz setup working. 

I followed the instructions exactly as stated at the beginning of this thread.  As soon as i reboot my router after setting the dmz the router is blocked from the internet.  I have tried to ping google.com from an ssh session inside my router and it times out.

 

I am not a networking expert, but there must be some test i can run in ssh to determine what is blocking the packets?

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Here is some of the logs from the firewall on the pace 5031nv:

noticeJul 18 00:02:26
IN=br1 MAC=38:3b:c8:06:bf:40 src=69.252.24.86 DST=45.22.21.231 LEN=69 TTL=53 PROTO=UDP DPT=36818 Unknown inbound session stopped
noticeJul 18 00:02:26
IN=br1 MAC=38:3b:c8:06:bf:40 src=69.252.24.84 DST=45.22.21.231 LEN=68 TTL=53 PROTO=UDP DPT=59124 Unknown inbound session stopped
noticeJul 18 00:02:26
IN=br1 MAC=38:3b:c8:06:bf:40 src=69.252.24.68 DST=45.22.21.231 LEN=51 TTL=53 PROTO=UDP DPT=9611 Unknown inbound session stopped

Here is some of the logs from the firewall on the pace 5031nv:

noticeJul 18 00:02:26
IN=br1 MAC=38:3b:c8:06:bf:40 src=69.252.24.86 DST=45.22.21.231 LEN=69 TTL=53 PROTO=UDP DPT=36818 Unknown inbound session stopped
noticeJul 18 00:02:26
IN=br1 MAC=38:3b:c8:06:bf:40 src=69.252.24.84 DST=45.22.21.231 LEN=68 TTL=53 PROTO=UDP DPT=59124 Unknown inbound session stopped
noticeJul 18 00:02:26
IN=br1 MAC=38:3b:c8:06:bf:40 src=69.252.24.68 DST=45.22.21.231 LEN=51 TTL=53 PROTO=UDP DPT=9611 Unknown inbound session stopped

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I also just tried to allow dmzplus to my laptop instead of my router.  It does not work to my laptop either.  Once i reboot the laptop I no longer can access the web.  Interestingly I can access one website: att.com.  When i attempt to log in I receive "timed out".

 

It appears that DMZplus option no longer works for bridging your ATT 5031NV to a laptop or a router.

I also just tried to allow dmzplus to my laptop instead of my router.  It does not work to my laptop either.  Once i reboot the laptop I no longer can access the web.  Interestingly I can access one website: att.com.  When i attempt to log in I receive "timed out".

 

It appears that DMZplus option no longer works for bridging your ATT 5031NV to a laptop or a router.

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After many, many days of research and trial and error...

You cannot truly get the 2wire to be a "bridge" mode. The work around for this if you have your own router that you want to use, you must PURCHASE a static IP address from att (15.00) a month. After you get assigned your address follow the procedure for your router to set the static address given.  Also there is a few steps to follow for the 2wire as well.  those instructions are in these forums as well.  Keep in mind these steps are not for the faint of heart.  It is a little trickey, but with the right research and patience, it can be done. I am sorry that I don't have a better answer.  But it can be done.  The secret is accessing your static ip directly through the 2 wire after the 2 wire is setup properly.

After many, many days of research and trial and error...

You cannot truly get the 2wire to be a "bridge" mode. The work around for this if you have your own router that you want to use, you must PURCHASE a static IP address from att (15.00) a month. After you get assigned your address follow the procedure for your router to set the static address given.  Also there is a few steps to follow for the 2wire as well.  those instructions are in these forums as well.  Keep in mind these steps are not for the faint of heart.  It is a little trickey, but with the right research and patience, it can be done. I am sorry that I don't have a better answer.  But it can be done.  The secret is accessing your static ip directly through the 2 wire after the 2 wire is setup properly.

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The cheaper solution is to setup a double nat.

1. set your att gateway/router to 192.168.2.1

2. set your third party router to 192.128.1.1

3. port forward from the gateway/router to your internal router.  Then also port forward at your internal router.

 

It is not ideal, but it also does not cost money.

This is an upsell for att and I do not see them fixing this anytime soon.

For that reason I will be leaving att.  They won't care though because they have monopoly agreements with a lot of infrastructure.

The cheaper solution is to setup a double nat.

1. set your att gateway/router to 192.168.2.1

2. set your third party router to 192.128.1.1

3. port forward from the gateway/router to your internal router.  Then also port forward at your internal router.

 

It is not ideal, but it also does not cost money.

This is an upsell for att and I do not see them fixing this anytime soon.

For that reason I will be leaving att.  They won't care though because they have monopoly agreements with a lot of infrastructure.

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