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Guess I'll get this one started before I head for the sack.   Tired after today.  Spent the afternoon in the dentist chair.  No pain but he blocked the nerves so thoroughly that when I ate my supper 3 1/2 hours later I accidentally bit my cheek rather seriously and didn't feel a thing.  Oh well....fresh protein never hurt anyone.  Does that make me a cannibal?

 

Hey.....I got an E-mail ad from MicroCenter and they're selling a 60"  HD 1080p plasma TV $599.95.  Brand name not mentioned.  Guess I'd have to drive over to the store and have a look.  My wife said she saw a story in the paper that Panasonic is discontinuing manufacturing plasma sets and will no longer offer them for sale.  I wonder if these that MicroCenter is selling might be Panasonics.  Oh well....I'm not in the market for any new TV.   Our 55" Sony still looks just great to us.....and since I installed the new Sony sound-bar with the small, separate subwoofer the audio quality is much improved.....especially music.

 

Well.  Time to go sleepy bye.   Hope y'all have a great week.  It is 12:31 AM, Friday, November 8, 2013 and the outdoor temperature is 29.3 degrees and falling.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. .......Margaret Thatcher

Guess I'll get this one started before I head for the sack.   Tired after today.  Spent the afternoon in the dentist chair.  No pain but he blocked the nerves so thoroughly that when I ate my supper 3 1/2 hours later I accidentally bit my cheek rather seriously and didn't feel a thing.  Oh well....fresh protein never hurt anyone.  Does that make me a cannibal?

 

Hey.....I got an E-mail ad from MicroCenter and they're selling a 60"  HD 1080p plasma TV $599.95.  Brand name not mentioned.  Guess I'd have to drive over to the store and have a look.  My wife said she saw a story in the paper that Panasonic is discontinuing manufacturing plasma sets and will no longer offer them for sale.  I wonder if these that MicroCenter is selling might be Panasonics.  Oh well....I'm not in the market for any new TV.   Our 55" Sony still looks just great to us.....and since I installed the new Sony sound-bar with the small, separate subwoofer the audio quality is much improved.....especially music.

 

Well.  Time to go sleepy bye.   Hope y'all have a great week.  It is 12:31 AM, Friday, November 8, 2013 and the outdoor temperature is 29.3 degrees and falling.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. .......Margaret Thatcher
*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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Hey Phil, how's it going? I also received the same ad from MicroCenter on the 60" plasma HDTV for $599. Couldn't find the exact HDTV for that price so had to go into a chat which is probably a mistake. First thing the rep asked was what security system I was using and I said MSI. So then she tried to sell me another one and here we go.... Like pulling teeth to find out it was the below "LG Full HD 1080p Plama TV", sku 752337, model 60PN5300, and listed at $849.99 once in the cart. She said the price will be reduced at the store but I only saw where they have 5 in-stock. Of course she wanted to take my order for pick-up which I turned down. Don't even need another HDTV! LOL.

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/420278/Full_HD_1080p_Plasma_TV

 

I saw in the last WOTT where Dave was asking if I was aware of the Jeep recall on the exploding gas tanks? Chrysler/Jeep sure is taking their good ole time about contacting Jeep owners affected as can be seen below.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/automobiles/jeep-delays-fuel-tank-recall-gm-bentley-lamborghini-an...

 

I'm fully aware of this recall and have been following it closely since my 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee is included. Mine came with a tow package but no gas tank skid plate or hitch. And I'll tell you what they call a tank "skid" is nothing more than a thin metal cover over the bottom/sides a plastic fuel tank. My thought is the thin metal skid will just cause a spark if someone hits you in the rear and punchers the plastic tank. Can't wait to see the dealer try to install trailer hitches on some of these Jeeps which are 20 years old with a rusted frame in the salt/belt. And they probably won't if the frame can't handle towing.

 

The invasive lady beetles have been so bad around here the past week I haven't even been able to work outside around the house or on my Jeeps. The scourge of the earth which bite and hate those bugs!

 

Headed down to pick-up a rental log-splitter today for the weekend. This old body is going to get punished and don't know if it's worth it to not have any heating bills. But I probably save about $2K a year in fuel oil costs in heating with all wood.

 

 

 

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Hey Phil, how's it going? I also received the same ad from MicroCenter on the 60" plasma HDTV for $599. Couldn't find the exact HDTV for that price so had to go into a chat which is probably a mistake. First thing the rep asked was what security system I was using and I said MSI. So then she tried to sell me another one and here we go.... Like pulling teeth to find out it was the below "LG Full HD 1080p Plama TV", sku 752337, model 60PN5300, and listed at $849.99 once in the cart. She said the price will be reduced at the store but I only saw where they have 5 in-stock. Of course she wanted to take my order for pick-up which I turned down. Don't even need another HDTV! LOL.

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/420278/Full_HD_1080p_Plasma_TV

 

I saw in the last WOTT where Dave was asking if I was aware of the Jeep recall on the exploding gas tanks? Chrysler/Jeep sure is taking their good ole time about contacting Jeep owners affected as can be seen below.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/31/automobiles/jeep-delays-fuel-tank-recall-gm-bentley-lamborghini-and-nissan-issue-recalls.html?_r=0

 

I'm fully aware of this recall and have been following it closely since my 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee is included. Mine came with a tow package but no gas tank skid plate or hitch. And I'll tell you what they call a tank "skid" is nothing more than a thin metal cover over the bottom/sides a plastic fuel tank. My thought is the thin metal skid will just cause a spark if someone hits you in the rear and punchers the plastic tank. Can't wait to see the dealer try to install trailer hitches on some of these Jeeps which are 20 years old with a rusted frame in the salt/belt. And they probably won't if the frame can't handle towing.

 

The invasive lady beetles have been so bad around here the past week I haven't even been able to work outside around the house or on my Jeeps. The scourge of the earth which bite and hate those bugs!

 

Headed down to pick-up a rental log-splitter today for the weekend. This old body is going to get punished and don't know if it's worth it to not have any heating bills. But I probably save about $2K a year in fuel oil costs in heating with all wood.

 

 

 

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uni - I wonder if they'll buy Jeep's back, if they can't do their "fix?"  While you might think that I'm joking, I'm not.  Our 02 Windstar had a recall on the rear axle.  The channel that it sets in had no drain holes or cover to keep rain / briny salt and such from getting caught in the trough and rusting.  The recall notice said that if the frame was too rusty (due to the flaw), they would buy the vehicle back.

uni - I wonder if they'll buy Jeep's back, if they can't do their "fix?"  While you might think that I'm joking, I'm not.  Our 02 Windstar had a recall on the rear axle.  The channel that it sets in had no drain holes or cover to keep rain / briny salt and such from getting caught in the trough and rusting.  The recall notice said that if the frame was too rusty (due to the flaw), they would buy the vehicle back.

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Well Dave, Ford must have a whole lot better return policy than Chrysler/Jeep. It broke my wife's heart when we had to get rid of her 2000 TJ Wrangler Sahara a few months ago. The bottom frame on both sides was completely eaten up from the inside out due to road salt sitting in there corroding the metal. Heck I couldn't even tell the frame was rusted until the wide crossmember fell about 2" down on one side where the bolts/welding on nuts pulled right out! Not one drain hole in the bottom of the frame but big oval holes higher up so the tires can throw/spray stuff in there. I checked a Wrangler forum and they thought I neglected it because I didn't power wash/use an air compressor to blow the inside of the frame out! Never saw that in the owners manual, no recalls from Jeep, and we sold it for $3K when it was worth about $7-$8K with a good frame. Smiley Sad

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Well Dave, Ford must have a whole lot better return policy than Chrysler/Jeep. It broke my wife's heart when we had to get rid of her 2000 TJ Wrangler Sahara a few months ago. The bottom frame on both sides was completely eaten up from the inside out due to road salt sitting in there corroding the metal. Heck I couldn't even tell the frame was rusted until the wide crossmember fell about 2" down on one side where the bolts/welding on nuts pulled right out! Not one drain hole in the bottom of the frame but big oval holes higher up so the tires can throw/spray stuff in there. I checked a Wrangler forum and they thought I neglected it because I didn't power wash/use an air compressor to blow the inside of the frame out! Never saw that in the owners manual, no recalls from Jeep, and we sold it for $3K when it was worth about $7-$8K with a good frame. Smiley Sad

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hpmsrm wrote:

Guess I'll get this one started before I head for the sack.   Tired after today.  Spent the afternoon in the dentist chair.  No pain but he blocked the nerves so thoroughly that when I ate my supper 3 1/2 hours later I accidentally bit my cheek rather seriously and didn't feel a thing.  Oh well....fresh protein never hurt anyone.  Does that make me a cannibal?

 

Hey.....I got an E-mail ad from MicroCenter and they're selling a 60"  HD 1080p plasma TV $599.95.  Brand name not mentioned.  Guess I'd have to drive over to the store and have a look.  My wife said she saw a story in the paper that Panasonic is discontinuing manufacturing plasma sets and will no longer offer them for sale.  I wonder if these that MicroCenter is selling might be Panasonics.  Oh well....I'm not in the market for any new TV.   Our 55" Sony still looks just great to us.....and since I installed the new Sony sound-bar with the small, separate subwoofer the audio quality is much improved.....especially music.

 

Well.  Time to go sleepy bye.   Hope y'all have a great week.  It is 12:31 AM, Friday, November 8, 2013 and the outdoor temperature is 29.3 degrees and falling.


Sad day for videophiles now with the exit from plasma by Panasonic so hope mine holds up till the prices come down on OLED since it offers the best of both Plasma and LCD.


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Guess I'll get this one started before I head for the sack.   Tired after today.  Spent the afternoon in the dentist chair.  No pain but he blocked the nerves so thoroughly that when I ate my supper 3 1/2 hours later I accidentally bit my cheek rather seriously and didn't feel a thing.  Oh well....fresh protein never hurt anyone.  Does that make me a cannibal?

 

Hey.....I got an E-mail ad from MicroCenter and they're selling a 60"  HD 1080p plasma TV $599.95.  Brand name not mentioned.  Guess I'd have to drive over to the store and have a look.  My wife said she saw a story in the paper that Panasonic is discontinuing manufacturing plasma sets and will no longer offer them for sale.  I wonder if these that MicroCenter is selling might be Panasonics.  Oh well....I'm not in the market for any new TV.   Our 55" Sony still looks just great to us.....and since I installed the new Sony sound-bar with the small, separate subwoofer the audio quality is much improved.....especially music.

 

Well.  Time to go sleepy bye.   Hope y'all have a great week.  It is 12:31 AM, Friday, November 8, 2013 and the outdoor temperature is 29.3 degrees and falling.


Sad day for videophiles now with the exit from plasma by Panasonic so hope mine holds up till the prices come down on OLED since it offers the best of both Plasma and LCD.

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Uniblurb3 wrote:

Well Dave, Ford must have a whole lot better return policy than Chrysler/Jeep. It broke my wife's heart when we had to get rid of her 2000 TJ Wrangler Sahara a few months ago. The bottom frame on both sides was completely eaten up from the inside out due to road salt sitting in there corroding the metal. Heck I couldn't even tell the frame was rusted until the wide crossmember fell about 2" down on one side where the bolts/welding on nuts pulled right out! Not one drain hole in the bottom of the frame but big oval holes higher up so the tires can throw/spray stuff in there. I checked a Wrangler forum and they thought I neglected it because I didn't power wash/use an air compressor to blow the inside of the frame out! Never saw that in the owners manual, no recalls from Jeep, and we sold it for $3K when it was worth about $7-$8K with a good frame. Smiley Sad


Chrysler is the pits when dealing with manufacturing issues.  They had lots of trouble with their automatic FWD transmissions from the late 80's on.  We had a 1993 Dodge Dynasty.  It was my wife's late mothers.  It had 9500 miles when we got it in late 1995 and noted shifting issues when we got it.  I kept asking about recalls and the dealer and Chrsler basically said "yeah, right."  Lucas Transmission Fix helped a bit but it never shifted smoothly.  We just sold it late in 2011, after my mom died and I inherited her car.  It had 75000 miles on it and we got $1200 out of it.  I  saw the woman who bought it for her son, last week and she said that he only got to keep it for a year and a half - one day it refused to shift into drive.  She said that it would cost $1500 to fix it.  She mentioned "right side," so it must have been the tranny and the CV joint, that failed.  Long story short, most of the Dynasty owners that I knew, were shocked that ours made it past 50000 miles on the first tranny.  I always was asked if I was on tranny 2 or 3, lol.  They needed to recall ALL of those!


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Well Dave, Ford must have a whole lot better return policy than Chrysler/Jeep. It broke my wife's heart when we had to get rid of her 2000 TJ Wrangler Sahara a few months ago. The bottom frame on both sides was completely eaten up from the inside out due to road salt sitting in there corroding the metal. Heck I couldn't even tell the frame was rusted until the wide crossmember fell about 2" down on one side where the bolts/welding on nuts pulled right out! Not one drain hole in the bottom of the frame but big oval holes higher up so the tires can throw/spray stuff in there. I checked a Wrangler forum and they thought I neglected it because I didn't power wash/use an air compressor to blow the inside of the frame out! Never saw that in the owners manual, no recalls from Jeep, and we sold it for $3K when it was worth about $7-$8K with a good frame. Smiley Sad


Chrysler is the pits when dealing with manufacturing issues.  They had lots of trouble with their automatic FWD transmissions from the late 80's on.  We had a 1993 Dodge Dynasty.  It was my wife's late mothers.  It had 9500 miles when we got it in late 1995 and noted shifting issues when we got it.  I kept asking about recalls and the dealer and Chrsler basically said "yeah, right."  Lucas Transmission Fix helped a bit but it never shifted smoothly.  We just sold it late in 2011, after my mom died and I inherited her car.  It had 75000 miles on it and we got $1200 out of it.  I  saw the woman who bought it for her son, last week and she said that he only got to keep it for a year and a half - one day it refused to shift into drive.  She said that it would cost $1500 to fix it.  She mentioned "right side," so it must have been the tranny and the CV joint, that failed.  Long story short, most of the Dynasty owners that I knew, were shocked that ours made it past 50000 miles on the first tranny.  I always was asked if I was on tranny 2 or 3, lol.  They needed to recall ALL of those!

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Edited by Uniblurb3 on Nov 11, 2013 at 11:49:54 PM

dhascall wrote:

Uniblurb3 wrote:

Well Dave, Ford must have a whole lot better return policy than Chrysler/Jeep. It broke my wife's heart when we had to get rid of her 2000 TJ Wrangler Sahara a few months ago. The bottom frame on both sides was completely eaten up from the inside out due to road salt sitting in there corroding the metal. Heck I couldn't even tell the frame was rusted until the wide crossmember fell about 2" down on one side where the bolts/welding on nuts pulled right out! Not one drain hole in the bottom of the frame but big oval holes higher up so the tires can throw/spray stuff in there. I checked a Wrangler forum and they thought I neglected it because I didn't power wash/use an air compressor to blow the inside of the frame out! Never saw that in the owners manual, no recalls from Jeep, and we sold it for $3K when it was worth about $7-$8K with a good frame. Smiley Sad


Chrysler is the pits when dealing with manufacturing issues.  They had lots of trouble with their automatic FWD transmissions from the late 80's on.  We had a 1993 Dodge Dynasty.  It was my wife's late mothers.  It had 9500 miles when we got it in late 1995 and noted shifting issues when we got it.  I kept asking about recalls and the dealer and Chrsler basically said "yeah, right."  Lucas Transmission Fix helped a bit but it never shifted smoothly.  We just sold it late in 2011, after my mom died and I inherited her car.  It had 75000 miles on it and we got $1200 out of it.  I  saw the woman who bought it for her son, last week and she said that he only got to keep it for a year and a half - one day it refused to shift into drive.  She said that it would cost $1500 to fix it.  She mentioned "right side," so it must have been the tranny and the CV joint, that failed.  Long story short, most of the Dynasty owners that I knew, were shocked that ours made it past 50000 miles on the first tranny.  I always was asked if I was on tranny 2 or 3, lol.  They needed to recall ALL of those!


 

Know where you're coming from Dave since both my son and I had to have the 4WD transmissions rebuilt on his 96 Cherokee, along with my 96 Grand Cherokee, at almost $2,000 each! A few other things Chrysler/Jeep should have recalled on my year/model was the PCM (power control module - computer) and crank position sensor. Either of these faulty parts will cause your Jeep to just stall/shut-down and nothing like being on a 60+ mph highway when all of the sudden you have no power steering or brakes while trying to limp to the berm. Been there done that! I'm on my 3rd PCM, 4-5 crank sensors, and have heard even on the newer model Jeeps the PCM was recalled. They weren't recalled on mine and they just put out a TSB (technical service bulletin) to the Jeep dealer service departments on watching out for problems. How about letting the Jeep owners themselves know!

 

On a couple other subjects. Had a fun past 2 days splitting/stacking about 7 cords of firewood all weekend with a rental log splitter. Luckily I had a good working friend of my son's to help me and I covered it good with new tarps. Also installed my last storm window yesterday while cleaning all the leaves/tree seeds off the roof, out of the gutters, and covered my 12" attic wind turbine with a taped on trash bag.

 

Just in time because it's snowing right now and our 1st of the season. Should have a couple inches by morning and it's not going to be a fun rush-hour drive for my wife this morning due to icy/slick roads. Will drop down into the teens tonight so were going into the deep freeze. But luckily this arctic blast is just for a few days and we'll be back up in the mid-50's on the weekend. Pretty soon it won't be warming up until next Spring. My son is loving it living with my daughter clear out in sunny SD!

 

Uniblurb3

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dhascall wrote:

Uniblurb3 wrote:

Well Dave, Ford must have a whole lot better return policy than Chrysler/Jeep. It broke my wife's heart when we had to get rid of her 2000 TJ Wrangler Sahara a few months ago. The bottom frame on both sides was completely eaten up from the inside out due to road salt sitting in there corroding the metal. Heck I couldn't even tell the frame was rusted until the wide crossmember fell about 2" down on one side where the bolts/welding on nuts pulled right out! Not one drain hole in the bottom of the frame but big oval holes higher up so the tires can throw/spray stuff in there. I checked a Wrangler forum and they thought I neglected it because I didn't power wash/use an air compressor to blow the inside of the frame out! Never saw that in the owners manual, no recalls from Jeep, and we sold it for $3K when it was worth about $7-$8K with a good frame. Smiley Sad


Chrysler is the pits when dealing with manufacturing issues.  They had lots of trouble with their automatic FWD transmissions from the late 80's on.  We had a 1993 Dodge Dynasty.  It was my wife's late mothers.  It had 9500 miles when we got it in late 1995 and noted shifting issues when we got it.  I kept asking about recalls and the dealer and Chrsler basically said "yeah, right."  Lucas Transmission Fix helped a bit but it never shifted smoothly.  We just sold it late in 2011, after my mom died and I inherited her car.  It had 75000 miles on it and we got $1200 out of it.  I  saw the woman who bought it for her son, last week and she said that he only got to keep it for a year and a half - one day it refused to shift into drive.  She said that it would cost $1500 to fix it.  She mentioned "right side," so it must have been the tranny and the CV joint, that failed.  Long story short, most of the Dynasty owners that I knew, were shocked that ours made it past 50000 miles on the first tranny.  I always was asked if I was on tranny 2 or 3, lol.  They needed to recall ALL of those!


 

Know where you're coming from Dave since both my son and I had to have the 4WD transmissions rebuilt on his 96 Cherokee, along with my 96 Grand Cherokee, at almost $2,000 each! A few other things Chrysler/Jeep should have recalled on my year/model was the PCM (power control module - computer) and crank position sensor. Either of these faulty parts will cause your Jeep to just stall/shut-down and nothing like being on a 60+ mph highway when all of the sudden you have no power steering or brakes while trying to limp to the berm. Been there done that! I'm on my 3rd PCM, 4-5 crank sensors, and have heard even on the newer model Jeeps the PCM was recalled. They weren't recalled on mine and they just put out a TSB (technical service bulletin) to the Jeep dealer service departments on watching out for problems. How about letting the Jeep owners themselves know!

 

On a couple other subjects. Had a fun past 2 days splitting/stacking about 7 cords of firewood all weekend with a rental log splitter. Luckily I had a good working friend of my son's to help me and I covered it good with new tarps. Also installed my last storm window yesterday while cleaning all the leaves/tree seeds off the roof, out of the gutters, and covered my 12" attic wind turbine with a taped on trash bag.

 

Just in time because it's snowing right now and our 1st of the season. Should have a couple inches by morning and it's not going to be a fun rush-hour drive for my wife this morning due to icy/slick roads. Will drop down into the teens tonight so were going into the deep freeze. But luckily this arctic blast is just for a few days and we'll be back up in the mid-50's on the weekend. Pretty soon it won't be warming up until next Spring. My son is loving it living with my daughter clear out in sunny SD!

 

Uniblurb3

If you get to thinking you're a person of influence, try ordering someone else's dog around.

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