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It's Friday!!!!!    Got a heat wave here.  65 degrees and sun shining brightly.  I got my walk in late this morning and I feel a nap coming on.

 

Don't forget to change your clocks this weekend as we go back on Daylight Saving Time in the wee hours of Sunday morning.  I've got an old, old clock/alarm/radio on the night stand next to my side of the bed.  It resets for DST automatically....BUT...on the old schedule.  So it will be wrong for about a month and then it will switch and show the correct time.  Yes I could reset it manually BUT then, in a month, the auto reset would kick in and it would be off by an hour again.  Can't win.   Guess I should go buy a new one. Huh?

 

Just think.  Won't be long before that lawn will need mowing.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. .......Margaret Thatcher

It's Friday!!!!!    Got a heat wave here.  65 degrees and sun shining brightly.  I got my walk in late this morning and I feel a nap coming on.

 

Don't forget to change your clocks this weekend as we go back on Daylight Saving Time in the wee hours of Sunday morning.  I've got an old, old clock/alarm/radio on the night stand next to my side of the bed.  It resets for DST automatically....BUT...on the old schedule.  So it will be wrong for about a month and then it will switch and show the correct time.  Yes I could reset it manually BUT then, in a month, the auto reset would kick in and it would be off by an hour again.  Can't win.   Guess I should go buy a new one. Huh?

 

Just think.  Won't be long before that lawn will need mowing.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. .......Margaret Thatcher
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Got into the 50's today and maybe 60's next week.  Only the "shovel piles" of snow, are left.

 

I have an Emerson Projection clock radio that is old enough that it was on the old schedule but it has somehow updated itself.  That latter "smart" feature blows my mind. 

Got into the 50's today and maybe 60's next week.  Only the "shovel piles" of snow, are left.

 

I have an Emerson Projection clock radio that is old enough that it was on the old schedule but it has somehow updated itself.  That latter "smart" feature blows my mind. 

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I have a couple of Oregon Scientific clocks that are radio synced and observe DST correctly, assuming they can get the signal from WWV (which they do pretty well at considering the distance from here to Colorado).  The encoded time signal has a flag that says one of:  Standard Time Observed, Switching to Daylight Saving time today, switching to Standard Time today or Daylight Saving Time observed.  Therefore devices that read this signal don't need to know what date to switch on, the source that generates the signal controls when it gets set.

 

I also have a radio controlled watch.  I've always liked having an accurate time source and am too lazy to do it myself. Smiley Wink  I keep w32tm running on all my Windows PCs.  Drove me crazy when my Droid (controlled by the Cell Tower signals) was always 10-20 seconds fast.  My Galaxy S4 seems to stay right on the second.

 

I have a couple of Oregon Scientific clocks that are radio synced and observe DST correctly, assuming they can get the signal from WWV (which they do pretty well at considering the distance from here to Colorado).  The encoded time signal has a flag that says one of:  Standard Time Observed, Switching to Daylight Saving time today, switching to Standard Time today or Daylight Saving Time observed.  Therefore devices that read this signal don't need to know what date to switch on, the source that generates the signal controls when it gets set.

 

I also have a radio controlled watch.  I've always liked having an accurate time source and am too lazy to do it myself. Smiley Wink  I keep w32tm running on all my Windows PCs.  Drove me crazy when my Droid (controlled by the Cell Tower signals) was always 10-20 seconds fast.  My Galaxy S4 seems to stay right on the second.

 

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And I thought I was the only one around with a "correct" time obsession.Smiley Very Happy  In one of my careers I was a radio and TV news director and did a lot of on-the-air reports and news segments.  So a few seconds were very important to me.  The clock on the wall of the news room had to be right on the money....with zero error tolerance.  Because 30 seconds before I was supposed to be in the studio with a "hot" mike I might still be in the "wire" room pulling a story update and sorting my material.

 

Well....it's a bad habit I got into and now I'm not happy unless all our clocks and my watch are right on the money.   I've softened a bit, however.  My remote reading date/time/indoor-outdoor temp/barometer unit sits on my end table next to my recliner.  It monitors WWV and resets itself every half hour (I believe that is right.  Might be every hour).  Anyway that is my in-house standard for all the clocks and my wrist watch.   Unfortunately, being a man of very moderate means, I don't have a fancy watch.....just a good, old, reliable Timex.  When the battery wears out I just buy a new watch.  Well....maybe I do occasionally buy a new battery.  But not usually.   I guess everyone is entitled to at least one obsession.  Right?  What's a few-parts-in-a-million error to a man of leisure?  Huh?   Just as long as WWV keeps those Cesium atoms vibrating we'll be happy.

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And I thought I was the only one around with a "correct" time obsession.Smiley Very Happy  In one of my careers I was a radio and TV news director and did a lot of on-the-air reports and news segments.  So a few seconds were very important to me.  The clock on the wall of the news room had to be right on the money....with zero error tolerance.  Because 30 seconds before I was supposed to be in the studio with a "hot" mike I might still be in the "wire" room pulling a story update and sorting my material.

 

Well....it's a bad habit I got into and now I'm not happy unless all our clocks and my watch are right on the money.   I've softened a bit, however.  My remote reading date/time/indoor-outdoor temp/barometer unit sits on my end table next to my recliner.  It monitors WWV and resets itself every half hour (I believe that is right.  Might be every hour).  Anyway that is my in-house standard for all the clocks and my wrist watch.   Unfortunately, being a man of very moderate means, I don't have a fancy watch.....just a good, old, reliable Timex.  When the battery wears out I just buy a new watch.  Well....maybe I do occasionally buy a new battery.  But not usually.   I guess everyone is entitled to at least one obsession.  Right?  What's a few-parts-in-a-million error to a man of leisure?  Huh?   Just as long as WWV keeps those Cesium atoms vibrating we'll be happy.

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My watch is a Casio that my wife gave me that I think she got on sale for about $30.  I have replaced the battery once and the dad-gum band three times now.  It's a very odd band that I have to order on Amazon about every 18-24 months.  Got the battery changed at the WalMart jewelry counter.

 

Since moving the radio receiver around is bad for reception, this watch only syncs when it figures you're not moving, at 2 AM, 4 AM and 6 AM local time.  As long as I point the crystal towards the WWV tower when I take it off every night, it usually syncs up.  When the battery got so low that it couldn't sync, it also lost its customary accuracy and started losing quite a few seconds a day.  When it can't get signal for other reasons, it's still accurate to less than 0.5 seconds/day.

 

The two clocks weren't all that expensive, either.  One is actually the base of a home weather center (built-in :barometer, thermometer, hygrometer, up to two remotes with thermometer/hygrometer capabilities).  I have never figured out their synchronization pattern, though.

 

My watch is a Casio that my wife gave me that I think she got on sale for about $30.  I have replaced the battery once and the dad-gum band three times now.  It's a very odd band that I have to order on Amazon about every 18-24 months.  Got the battery changed at the WalMart jewelry counter.

 

Since moving the radio receiver around is bad for reception, this watch only syncs when it figures you're not moving, at 2 AM, 4 AM and 6 AM local time.  As long as I point the crystal towards the WWV tower when I take it off every night, it usually syncs up.  When the battery got so low that it couldn't sync, it also lost its customary accuracy and started losing quite a few seconds a day.  When it can't get signal for other reasons, it's still accurate to less than 0.5 seconds/day.

 

The two clocks weren't all that expensive, either.  One is actually the base of a home weather center (built-in :barometer, thermometer, hygrometer, up to two remotes with thermometer/hygrometer capabilities).  I have never figured out their synchronization pattern, though.

 

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Yup that signal from Fort Collins is a bit hard to receive.  I hope that I don't come across as being a nit picker but the signal is actually from WWVB.  In fact that article from Wikipedia, shows how much information is crammed into each minute's WWVB transmission.  The difference between WWV and WWVB, is the frequency.  The WWV transmitters are on Shortwave, while WWVB is on Longwave (LW).   There are DX'ers who DX LW and there are still some international broadcasters in that space but I'm surprised that much makes it past all of the natural and man made static on LW.  I have never heard an International station on LW, only a few airport beacon stations.  Both of the atomic clocks that I've had, have had better luck facing away from Ft Collins that toward it.

 

I still am a clock watcher - and a to the second guy.  I look for visible satellites and that kind of accuracy is required.  TV shows USED to start exactly sat the top of the hour, on the second.  That's not the case any more but when I spring forward, I will "synchronize our watches" (lol) to WWV.  Smiley Happy

Yup that signal from Fort Collins is a bit hard to receive.  I hope that I don't come across as being a nit picker but the signal is actually from WWVB.  In fact that article from Wikipedia, shows how much information is crammed into each minute's WWVB transmission.  The difference between WWV and WWVB, is the frequency.  The WWV transmitters are on Shortwave, while WWVB is on Longwave (LW).   There are DX'ers who DX LW and there are still some international broadcasters in that space but I'm surprised that much makes it past all of the natural and man made static on LW.  I have never heard an International station on LW, only a few airport beacon stations.  Both of the atomic clocks that I've had, have had better luck facing away from Ft Collins that toward it.

 

I still am a clock watcher - and a to the second guy.  I look for visible satellites and that kind of accuracy is required.  TV shows USED to start exactly sat the top of the hour, on the second.  That's not the case any more but when I spring forward, I will "synchronize our watches" (lol) to WWV.  Smiley Happy

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I used to regularly tune in WWV on my ham transceiver.  But WWVB is on a frequency of 60 KHz.  AND...there were some significant changes made in 2012 when they added a pulse modulated signal to the carrier.  Interesting reading.

 

I haven't done the math but I can hardly imagine how long a half wave dipole or quarter wave vertical would have to be to be resonant on 60 KHz.  Wheeee!  But propagation is more dependable around the clock on such an extremely low frequency.   It always amazed me how many lab standards are incorporated into the WWV/WWVB signals.  The time is accurate to within a few parts per million (don't remember the exact figure)....the tone used to be international "A" & I assume still is....the time between the clicks is an exact length....the clicks themselvs are a standard length....and, of course, the frequency of the signal is also a lab standard.  All suitable for measurement instrument calibration.  Probably many changes.  I have not kept up with it in recent years.

 

We had a high temp. of 77 degrees today.  WOW.  Went for a walk with my portable O2 tank.  Felt so good that I walked a full mile.....and that was a mistake.  I was so blasted exhausted by the time I got home....all I could think about was getting into my recliner and grabbing a nap.   Well...as they say...."no pain, no gain".

 

 

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. .......Margaret Thatcher

I used to regularly tune in WWV on my ham transceiver.  But WWVB is on a frequency of 60 KHz.  AND...there were some significant changes made in 2012 when they added a pulse modulated signal to the carrier.  Interesting reading.

 

I haven't done the math but I can hardly imagine how long a half wave dipole or quarter wave vertical would have to be to be resonant on 60 KHz.  Wheeee!  But propagation is more dependable around the clock on such an extremely low frequency.   It always amazed me how many lab standards are incorporated into the WWV/WWVB signals.  The time is accurate to within a few parts per million (don't remember the exact figure)....the tone used to be international "A" & I assume still is....the time between the clicks is an exact length....the clicks themselvs are a standard length....and, of course, the frequency of the signal is also a lab standard.  All suitable for measurement instrument calibration.  Probably many changes.  I have not kept up with it in recent years.

 

We had a high temp. of 77 degrees today.  WOW.  Went for a walk with my portable O2 tank.  Felt so good that I walked a full mile.....and that was a mistake.  I was so blasted exhausted by the time I got home....all I could think about was getting into my recliner and grabbing a nap.   Well...as they say...."no pain, no gain".

 

 

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I haven't done the math but I can hardly imagine how long a half wave dipole or quarter wave vertical would have to be to be resonant on 60 KHz.  Wheeee! 

 

The WWVB antenna array uses a large capacitive "top hat" to reduce the required length of the vertical downlead.

 

Normally, a half-wave dipole for 60 KHz would have to be over 1.5 miles long or the 1/4 wave vertical would have to be 4100 feet high. Smiley Surprised  The top hat configuration reduces the required height to about 400 feet, which can be done with towers.

 

 


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I haven't done the math but I can hardly imagine how long a half wave dipole or quarter wave vertical would have to be to be resonant on 60 KHz.  Wheeee! 

 

The WWVB antenna array uses a large capacitive "top hat" to reduce the required length of the vertical downlead.

 

Normally, a half-wave dipole for 60 KHz would have to be over 1.5 miles long or the 1/4 wave vertical would have to be 4100 feet high. Smiley Surprised  The top hat configuration reduces the required height to about 400 feet, which can be done with towers.

 

 

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hpmsrm wrote:
I haven't done the math but I can hardly imagine how long a half wave dipole or quarter wave vertical would have to be to be resonant on 60 KHz.  Wheeee! 

 

The WWVB antenna array uses a large capacitive "top hat" to reduce the required length of the vertical downlead.

 

Normally, a half-wave dipole for 60 KHz would have to be over 1.5 miles long or the 1/4 wave vertical would have to be 4100 feet high. Smiley Surprised  The top hat configuration reduces the required height to about 400 feet, which can be done with towers.

 

 


The last antenna systems I had that were permanently installed was back between 1984 and 1990....not too far from where we live now.  I worked both the 80 meter and 160 meter bands quite a bit and the shorter vertical with the large capacitive top-hat was what I used.....working against an elevated set of radials.  That brought the size of the vertical down to manageable level.

 

Several of my friends and myself used to love trying different things for antennas.....in preparation for THAT time when we might have to.   When I lived in the Des Moines, Iowa area we owned a two story home.  That put the rain gutters at about the 25 to 30 ft. level.  I fed the down-spout at the bottom....with a limited set of radials stretched out on top of the ground in about 8 different directions.  The many feet of guttering at the top served as a top hat.....sort of what we used to call an inverted "L".  Never used the 1 KW linear with this arrangement but did work quite a bit of DX with it on 40 and 80 meters with the 100 watt output from my SSB transceiver.  This make-do vertical was quite broadbanded....partly I think....because the down-spout was so large in diameter.  Perhaps 4 to 5 inches in diameter?  So matching the transceiver's output to the system was very easy with my matching equipment.    Oh how I miss those days.

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hpmsrm wrote:
I haven't done the math but I can hardly imagine how long a half wave dipole or quarter wave vertical would have to be to be resonant on 60 KHz.  Wheeee! 

 

The WWVB antenna array uses a large capacitive "top hat" to reduce the required length of the vertical downlead.

 

Normally, a half-wave dipole for 60 KHz would have to be over 1.5 miles long or the 1/4 wave vertical would have to be 4100 feet high. Smiley Surprised  The top hat configuration reduces the required height to about 400 feet, which can be done with towers.

 

 


The last antenna systems I had that were permanently installed was back between 1984 and 1990....not too far from where we live now.  I worked both the 80 meter and 160 meter bands quite a bit and the shorter vertical with the large capacitive top-hat was what I used.....working against an elevated set of radials.  That brought the size of the vertical down to manageable level.

 

Several of my friends and myself used to love trying different things for antennas.....in preparation for THAT time when we might have to.   When I lived in the Des Moines, Iowa area we owned a two story home.  That put the rain gutters at about the 25 to 30 ft. level.  I fed the down-spout at the bottom....with a limited set of radials stretched out on top of the ground in about 8 different directions.  The many feet of guttering at the top served as a top hat.....sort of what we used to call an inverted "L".  Never used the 1 KW linear with this arrangement but did work quite a bit of DX with it on 40 and 80 meters with the 100 watt output from my SSB transceiver.  This make-do vertical was quite broadbanded....partly I think....because the down-spout was so large in diameter.  Perhaps 4 to 5 inches in diameter?  So matching the transceiver's output to the system was very easy with my matching equipment.    Oh how I miss those days.

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Most folks that DX the LW bands use air core loops.  I used to have a Sanserino loop for DXing the MW (AM broadcast band).  The ones for LW need just a few more turns, lol.

 

Here is an air core loop:

Most folks that DX the LW bands use air core loops.  I used to have a Sanserino loop for DXing the MW (AM broadcast band).  The ones for LW need just a few more turns, lol.

 

Here is an air core loop:

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Impressive, Dave.  I've seen pictures of these loops before (a good many years) but I've never seen one in person nor, of course, used one.   My ICOM IC-745 transceiver bottomed out below the 160 meter band.  So I had to settle for the higher frequency WWV transmissions.  I'd set the clocks in the house and my watch by WWV.  Now days, of course, most are automatic and have built in capability to receive the signal.

 

Today has been a crazy day.  By late afternoon, under partly cloudy skies, our temperatures topped out at 82 degrees.  I went for a great walk.  Then by evening it clouded up....the wind started to kick up....the thunderstorms moved in and right now it is 33 degrees out there.  We have had lightning and thunder....gusty winds.....heavy rain....hail....more rain mixed with wet snow.   We had windows open most of the day to air out the house and the furnace was turned off.  But, needless to say, we are buttoned up again and the furnace is back on.  I think we are pretty much done with the super cold temps howeveer.

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Impressive, Dave.  I've seen pictures of these loops before (a good many years) but I've never seen one in person nor, of course, used one.   My ICOM IC-745 transceiver bottomed out below the 160 meter band.  So I had to settle for the higher frequency WWV transmissions.  I'd set the clocks in the house and my watch by WWV.  Now days, of course, most are automatic and have built in capability to receive the signal.

 

Today has been a crazy day.  By late afternoon, under partly cloudy skies, our temperatures topped out at 82 degrees.  I went for a great walk.  Then by evening it clouded up....the wind started to kick up....the thunderstorms moved in and right now it is 33 degrees out there.  We have had lightning and thunder....gusty winds.....heavy rain....hail....more rain mixed with wet snow.   We had windows open most of the day to air out the house and the furnace was turned off.  But, needless to say, we are buttoned up again and the furnace is back on.  I think we are pretty much done with the super cold temps howeveer.

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Phil, do you remember seeing ads for the Select-a-Tenna?

 

 

It was an air core loop, too.  You position the radio by it, tune the variable capacitor until you hear a marked uptick in strength.  When I was in High School, I wanted one but didn't want to pony up $45.  My brother's old landlord passed away and they had an estate auction.  I just happened to look down at one of the "boxes of junk" that I liked to bid on and saw one inside.  I got the whole shebang for $5, lol.

 

Diverging even further, a few years later I paid $12 for a box of old road maps (my favorite collectibles) and such and there were two GM promotional 16mm movie reels from the 50's.  One was on Oldsmobile's for 1957 and one was on Safety.  I sold them on eBay, 20 years later, for $87. Smiley Happy

Phil, do you remember seeing ads for the Select-a-Tenna?

 

 

It was an air core loop, too.  You position the radio by it, tune the variable capacitor until you hear a marked uptick in strength.  When I was in High School, I wanted one but didn't want to pony up $45.  My brother's old landlord passed away and they had an estate auction.  I just happened to look down at one of the "boxes of junk" that I liked to bid on and saw one inside.  I got the whole shebang for $5, lol.

 

Diverging even further, a few years later I paid $12 for a box of old road maps (my favorite collectibles) and such and there were two GM promotional 16mm movie reels from the 50's.  One was on Oldsmobile's for 1957 and one was on Safety.  I sold them on eBay, 20 years later, for $87. Smiley Happy

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Can't say that I've ever seen any pictures or info. on that device.  Interesting.

 

You must be a garage/yard sale shopper, Dave.   My father in law was a regular at those events and he had a garage full of stuff he picked up for little to nothing.  Here in our little town we have an annual, spring, city-wide garage sale.  On that day....from about 7:00 AM to 2:00 PM it becomes very difficult to even drive around the town because of all the cars and people stopping at all the neighborhood and individual sales.  I ought to participate this year.  Got a bunch of stuff I'd like to get out of my garage.

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Can't say that I've ever seen any pictures or info. on that device.  Interesting.

 

You must be a garage/yard sale shopper, Dave.   My father in law was a regular at those events and he had a garage full of stuff he picked up for little to nothing.  Here in our little town we have an annual, spring, city-wide garage sale.  On that day....from about 7:00 AM to 2:00 PM it becomes very difficult to even drive around the town because of all the cars and people stopping at all the neighborhood and individual sales.  I ought to participate this year.  Got a bunch of stuff I'd like to get out of my garage.

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Can't say that I've ever seen any pictures or info. on that device.  Interesting.

 

You must be a garage/yard sale shopper, Dave.   My father in law was a regular at those events and he had a garage full of stuff he picked up for little to nothing.  Here in our little town we have an annual, spring, city-wide garage sale.  On that day....from about 7:00 AM to 2:00 PM it becomes very difficult to even drive around the town because of all the cars and people stopping at all the neighborhood and individual sales.  I ought to participate this year.  Got a bunch of stuff I'd like to get out of my garage.


Yeah, I may work part time, after I retire and do buying and reselling as well.  There was a smartphone app that connected to Amazon servers, you scan a UPC code and it gave you Amazon sales ranks and what an item is selling for.  They later restrictyed that app to registered Amazon sellers only.  I found a free e-book on how to make money simply scanning UPC codes on books at used book stores.  One book he bought for $5 sold for $895.


hpmsrm wrote:

Can't say that I've ever seen any pictures or info. on that device.  Interesting.

 

You must be a garage/yard sale shopper, Dave.   My father in law was a regular at those events and he had a garage full of stuff he picked up for little to nothing.  Here in our little town we have an annual, spring, city-wide garage sale.  On that day....from about 7:00 AM to 2:00 PM it becomes very difficult to even drive around the town because of all the cars and people stopping at all the neighborhood and individual sales.  I ought to participate this year.  Got a bunch of stuff I'd like to get out of my garage.


Yeah, I may work part time, after I retire and do buying and reselling as well.  There was a smartphone app that connected to Amazon servers, you scan a UPC code and it gave you Amazon sales ranks and what an item is selling for.  They later restrictyed that app to registered Amazon sellers only.  I found a free e-book on how to make money simply scanning UPC codes on books at used book stores.  One book he bought for $5 sold for $895.

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