NASCAR Time for GEN 7 Car

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NASCAR Time for GEN 7 Car

After yesterdays hype for a fantastic race with better racing NASCAR better get moving on a Gen7 car because Gen 6 ain't no better than the cars it was supposed to replace. As for the broadcast, Darrel Waltrip sure has a thing for the ponytail princess that it made me sick when they did show racing, 3 laps and a commercial, 3 more laps and 5 more commercial.
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gmsuv wrote:
After yesterdays hype for a fantastic race with better racing NASCAR better get moving on a Gen7 car because Gen 6 ain't no better than the cars it was supposed to replace. As for the broadcast, Darrel Waltrip sure has a thing for the ponytail princess that it made me sick when they did show racing, 3 laps and a commercial, 3 more laps and 5 more commercial.

If you are a long time NASCAR fan, the race was the way it used to be before the COT.  Part of the problem is the tires didn't give up any during the race, give it a couple of years at Daytona for the track to age. A better example of racing should be at the next few tracks.  Having the commercials is the only issue I had with the race yesterday.  Here is a break down of how much race time and commercial time happened during the race.  

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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DVR baby!!  I let the race get about 1.5 hours in and started watching!!  I too thought it was fairly boring for 498 laps.........Looking  forward to Phoenix though.  Should be better action.

 

For Daytona and Talladega they need to give the drivers a "boost button" to add some power kind of like the Formula One cars have.

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Yup, the Cup race was pretty bad.  I'm not sure if it's even the tires and the track.  I think it's the aero package plus the size of the restrictor plate.  Most drivers simply couldn't get the oomph, to pass.  Back in the 70's, one car could slingshot around another.  Now it takes at least 2 to make it work (except for maybe 14 and 29).  Plus, if the cars had more power, the bottom would be faster.

 

Except for the last lap of the Nationwide race, the trucks and NW put on a much better show.  In fact, I miss the two car tandem in Cup.  The way that the NW cars ran it, with small radiators was nice.  Push for a lap or two, then switch.

 

Most of my race car drivin' friends on Facebook are howling for a return tio short tracks for Cup but that won't be happening.

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I think another thing they did was over advertise this new car.  Yep it's looks good but all I heard was how fast it was and how good it handled so we will see some spectacular racing!!  Not.......We'll see how they do on the 1 and 1.5 tracks.

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The problem with tracks like Daytona/Talledaga the networks rarely show the racing in the back of the pack, most drivers realize these days though to win the Daytona 500 you have to be there at the end and most will are just content to ride along for 490 miles or so.  I don't miss the two car tandem from a couple of years ago.  I do agree about the size of the restrictor plates.  I think the car is just fine as it is though. Maybe some minor tweaks, but at least now it actually looks more like a car you can buy rather than a box with an emblem on it.  I also wish we had more short tracks like the old days at the Rock and Hickory. N. Wilkesboro.  They can get rid of Pocono, Chicago, California, bring a 2nd race back to Atlanta and Darlington. 

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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The problem with tracks like Daytona/Talledaga the networks rarely show the racing in the back of the pack, most drivers realize these days though to win the Daytona 500 you have to be there at the end and most will are just content to ride along for 490 miles or so.  I don't miss the two car tandem from a couple of years ago.  I do agree about the size of the restrictor plates.  I think the car is just fine as it is though. Maybe some minor tweaks, but at least now it actually looks more like a car you can buy rather than a box with an emblem on it.  I also wish we had more short tracks like the old days at the Rock and Hickory. N. Wilkesboro.  They can get rid of Pocono, Chicago, California, bring a 2nd race back to Atlanta and Darlington. 


Oh don't get rid of Pocono!  That is one track that I look forward to seeing races at each year.  That is a driver's track as the three corners were built in homage to the most storied tracks at that time, Trenton (Turn one), Indy (Tunnel turn) and the Milwaukee Mile (Turn 3).  I recall you from other threads not liking Pocono.  For years, Pocono trailed only Daytona and Talladega in lead changes.  Maybe you don't like lead changes, Smiley Wink

 

Seriously, Atlanta and Darlington are lucky to keep their single races as "rival" Bruton Smith owns those tracks.  Conversely, Chicago, Kansas and California will probably stay at two races a year as they owned by ISC, an offshoot of NASCAR.  Politics is bigger than the racing, unfortunately.

 

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oufanindallas wrote:

The problem with tracks like Daytona/Talledaga the networks rarely show the racing in the back of the pack, most drivers realize these days though to win the Daytona 500 you have to be there at the end and most will are just content to ride along for 490 miles or so.  I don't miss the two car tandem from a couple of years ago.  I do agree about the size of the restrictor plates.  I think the car is just fine as it is though. Maybe some minor tweaks, but at least now it actually looks more like a car you can buy rather than a box with an emblem on it.  I also wish we had more short tracks like the old days at the Rock and Hickory. N. Wilkesboro.  They can get rid of Pocono, Chicago, California, bring a 2nd race back to Atlanta and Darlington. 


Oh don't get rid of Pocono!  That is one track that I look forward to seeing races at each year.  That is a driver's track as the three corners were built in homage to the most storied tracks at that time, Trenton (Turn one), Indy (Tunnel turn) and the Milwaukee Mile (Turn 3).  I recall you from other threads not liking Pocono.  For years, Pocono trailed only Daytona and Talladega in lead changes.  Maybe you don't like lead changes, Smiley Wink

 

Seriously, Atlanta and Darlington are lucky to keep their single races as "rival" Bruton Smith owns those tracks.  Conversely, Chicago, Kansas and California will probably stay at two races a year as they owned by ISC, an offshoot of NASCAR.  Politics is bigger than the racing, unfortunately.

 


I really don't remember seeing that many lead changes at Pocono, I know it's a challenge to the crew chiefs and drivers with 3 distinct corners, but to me it's a boring race.  They can keep 1 and keep it at 400 miles or less and it's tolerable.  I'm tired of the cookie cutter tracks.  I think we should have more road courses as well and now that the trucks are going to Eldora this year maybe we can see the Cup go there in the future.  Can you imagine back to dirt track raing. Wouldn't that be awesome. I think we need more road courses as well. Would love to see the Cup series at the new track in Austin.  That would be a heck of a race.

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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Some folks actually view Pocono as a road course or a "roval."  Back in the 80's, in one particular year between the two races at Daytona, Dega and Pocono, Dega had 68 lead changes, Daytona 62 and Pocono 56.  With the COT (Gen 5) and the car before that, lead changes have been down, everywhere. 

 

You may get your wish about more Road Courses as the manufacturers are begging NASCAR for more.  I want to see the Cup cars at Laguna Seca, myself!

 

Dirt track, for Cup.   Yeah it would have been cool.  I really thought that NASCAR would have done one in 1999 for the 50th anniversary.  It probably won't happen now, for Cup.  The races would have to be 300 laps, at least.  How often would you have to throw the red for the water trucks to come out?  Lol.  ARCA runs a couple 100 lappers at Springfield and DuQuoin, each year.  They used to run at the Indiana State Fair, also.  The big mile tracks seem nice but after the track dries out and you can see what looks like asphalt (it's actually rubber), it turns into a snoozer, with single file racing.

 

Heck, if Cup can race on dirt, let 'em do a Figure-8, like at Indy's Speedrome.  Look at the action from 3:35 to 3:55:

 

 

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Those guys that race the Figure 8's are C R A Z Y !!!.  there were so pretty close calls.  

 

I used to watch F1 while I was stationed in Italy and got hooked, don't watch as much now, but still try to catch a race when I can.  One of the managers in my office went to the inagural race in Austin and said it was a great time and a great race.  The Aussie Super V-8's are starting this year as well as the super bikes.  SCCA is supposed to start racing there next year, now we just need NASCAR to start.  It's a big 3.47 mile track that would be awesome with 43 cars on the track, I don't think the pit area would accomodate it though and some changes would have to be made.  I'd drive the 3 hours to Austin to go watch that race in person.

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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Aren't you going to the Australian V8 Super Car race?  Would love to see them on the road course at Indy

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You call what we saw Sunday at Daytona racing? I see better racing on I-45 heading into Houston during rush hour. Put a chrome bumper on the front, remove the restrictor plate, take off the rear spoiler, and "LET'S GO RAC'IN BOYS".
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Yes that was racing old school style.  The drivers are still figuring out what they can and cannot do with the car and again, don't change the car based on Daytona,  the drivers all know that to win Daytona, you have to be there at the end and most drivers are not going to take too many chances early in the race. I've seen the cars practice at Texas Motor Speedway and let me tell you, even though there were only 10 cars on the track they put on a heck of a show.

 

 

 

D, I may try to get down to Austin for the Aussie V8 cars, not sure if it will be this year or not. They have signed a 5 or 6 year deal to race here so if I don't get down there this year maybe next year.  Ticket prices aren't that bad for the other races, F1, that's a different story.

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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I'm with suv......let the boys (and girl) run wide open!Smiley Surprised  Their big boys......put the peddle to the metal and let 'um roll!!Smiley Surprised

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BeeBeeSA wrote:

I'm with suv......let the boys (and girl) run wide open!Smiley Surprised  Their big boys......put the peddle to the metal and let 'um roll!!Smiley Surprised


The announcer at Anderson Speedway, before qualifying, would say "Roll 'em out (Roll 'em over)." Smiley Very Happy

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