Let's Talk About the Weather - The New Temp Thread

[dhascall]

Another "cool" front blew through Indy last night with a reinforcing short of cool air.  Lots of wind and temps today in the 60's.  Maybe some light frost tomorrow.  We are still way down in the rainfall department but we got half an inch Wed. afternoon and that was as much as we received in all of August! 

[Uniblurb3]

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@spd2demun wrote:

Isn't it early to have those temps, even up there? 

60 here and not liking it indoors.  Was nice yesterday to not sweat to death with humidity, though.

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It sure is Spd and usually the 1st frost isn't until about the end of the first week in October. In fact it was 36 the other morning here and we missed the record (33) by 3 degrees. Avg low temps in Sept are 52 for the month and 77 for average highs.

Going to be a cold weekend and just peachy when 39 w/cold rain Sat.

Friday	Saturday	Sunday	Monday	Tuesday
73° F | 54° F	70° F | 39° F	61° F | 39° F	64° F | 45° F	73° F | 55° F
Chance of Rain 50% chance of precipitation	Chance of Rain 30% chance of precipitation	Partly Cloudy	Clear	Partly Cloudy

[jfw]

This whole year's weather has been unusual, record setting mild winter, 80's in March, drought and  the intense heat. We missed tying the record number of 90+ days here by 1and now the early frost. I wonder what old man winter has planned for us this year, I doubt we're going to escape with another mild one.

[Uniblurb3]

Agree, it's been a super strange weather year jwf. In addition to things you mentioned don't forget about the super strong winds we had in the early spring and around the 4th of July. I can't forget in just looking at all the huge trees down in the woods around here and looks like a real disaster hit!

If the Farmers Almanac 2012/2013 Winter predictions "holds any water" they're calling for a colder than normal winter in the E. half of the US and warmer than normal in the West. Cold and snowy predicted for us in the Great Lake states.

Personally I believe in global warming and have a feeling we're going to see the winters turning more mild, with less snow, in the very near future. But that's just me. In observing the wildlife around here I don't see the squirrels gathering nuts in a panic like they have before when winters turned out to be cold and snowy. But as we all know it's all a crap shoot on what the weather is going to do next anymore...

[Dcookie]

@Uni!! Hi!! How accurate are those farmer's almanac predictions?? Some people really DO go by what they say but how does anyone really know how the weather's going to be?? Even the meteorologists are not always right and they have equipment that they use. 

[Uniblurb3]

Hey DC! Well the Farmer's Almanac says they're right 80-85% of the time but others put the figures closer to a 50/50 chance they predict the weather correctly. And note there is an "Old Farmers Almanac" and just a "Farmers Almanac" as can be seen below. Good luck predicting the weather from a secret mathematical and astronomical formula from 1818!

http://news.discovery.com/earth/farmers-almanac-111021.html

Lately it doesn't seem like their predictions are all that accurate but as you said, neither are the weather forecasters who have all the modern equipment.

[Dcookie]

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@Uniblurb3 wrote:

Hey DC! Well the Farmer's Almanac says they're right 80-85% of the time but others put the figures closer to a 50/50 chance they predict the weather correctly. And note there is an "Old Farmers Almanac" and just a "Farmers Almanac" as can be seen below. Good luck predicting the weather from a secret mathematical and astronomical formula from 1818!

http://news.discovery.com/earth/farmers-almanac-111021.html

Lately it doesn't seem like their predictions are all that accurate but as you said, neither are the weather forecasters who have all the modern equipment.

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I guess even OUR guess is an good as anybody's. I think we're bound to get SOME snow this winter..we were TOO lucky last year. 

[Uniblurb3]

Well, here's a list which may help with nature's predictions to look for.

20 Earthly Signs of a Harsh Winter Ahead

1. Thicker than normal corn husks
2. Woodpeckers sharing a tree
3. Early arrival of the Snowy owl
4. Early departure of geese and ducks
5. Early migration of the Monarch butterfly
6. Thick hair on the nape (back) of the cow’s neck
7. Heavy and numerous fogs during August
8. Raccoons with thick tails and bright bands
9. Mice eating ravenously into the home
10. Early arrival of crickets on the hearth
11. Spiders spinning larger than usual webs and entering the house in great numbers
12. Pigs gathering sticks
13. Insects marching a bee line rather than meandering
14. Early seclusion of bees within the hive
15. Unusual abundance of acorns
16. Muskrats burrowing holes high on the river hank
17. “See how high the hornet’s nest, ‘twill tell how high the snow will rest”
18. Narrow orange band in the middle of the Woollybear caterpillar warns of heavy snow
19. The squirrel gathers nuts early to fortify against a hard winter
20. Frequent halos or rings around sun or moon forecast numerous snow falls.

http://unofficialnetworks.com/20-signs-of-a-harsh-winter-105830/

I shouldn't stick my neck out and predict another mild winter. I have never seen the oaks produce so many acorns as this year. The few Wollybear caterpillars I've seen are completely black, with little if any band in the middle. I'm seeing crickets trying to enter the house but the mice have not yet tried to invade. Spiders are making real large webs on the outside of the house. Can't say anything about the Monarch butterfly migrations since haven't seen any. In fact it's been a disastrous year for moths and butterflies with the drought conditions causing lack of flowering native plants. Haven't seen hardly any Bald-faced Hornets this year and have heard if they build their round paper nests near the ground it's a prediction for a harsh winter.

And guess I need to look at what my subconscious is saying too. I've never cut/split all my winter supply of firewood in the extreme heat of the late summer, like this year, and waited for cooler weather. Maybe there's something about the back-of-my-mind preparedness?

Once I see pigs gathering sticks I'll know we better watch out!

[jfw]

Here's what the Climate Prediction Center is forecasting for Dec - Jan - Feb. I doubt we'll have a repeat of last winter's record setting mild winter but anything's possible.

[Dcookie]

Morning Uni! I've been seeing a lot of geese in the past week. I'm wondering if this the time of the year when they head South or just flying from one watering hole to another??? 

Very interesting list that you posted. Thanks!  Pigs gathering sticks??? I'll watch out for that one, too!!

I'm NOT looking forward to the stinkbugs trying to get into the house, I'll tell ya that!

[Uniblurb3]

Yeah DC, the ducks and geese will start gathering for migration but some residents will stay here until there's no open water. Reason many ducks head to the rivers since they don't freeze as fast since they're flowing.

Don't care about the stink bugs but expect to see the invasion of the Asian Lady Beetles start this week since we'll have near freezing temps overnight. Hate those invasive insects, have to spray the whole house with insecticide, and would be nice if the drought cut down on their numbers. Nothing like having a brown house in the woods which they're drawn to by the heat when the sun shines.

I best bring in my houseplants today and maybe cover my 8 tomato plants which are 5'-6' tall while still loaded with tomatoes. Sure is early for near freezing temps, was 34 this morning, and tonight will be even colder. Also time to fire up the woodstove.

	Frost Advisory
Statement as of 9:05 AM EDT on September 23, 2012 ... Frost advisory remains in effect from 2 am to 10 am EDT Monday... * temperatures... overnight lows in the mid to upper 30s. * Timing... late tonight and Monday morning. * Impacts... sensitive plants left outdoors and unprotected may be damaged. Precautionary/preparedness actions... A frost advisory means that frost is likely. Sensitive outdoor plants may be killed if left uncovered.

[Uniblurb3]

Yikes! We may get down to freezing yet this morning and wonder how my tomato plants are doing under the tarps??

33 °F Clear

Humidity:

92%

[Dcookie]

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@Uniblurb3 wrote:

Yikes! We may get down to freezing yet this morning and wonder how my tomato plants are doing under the tarps??

33 °F Clear

Humidity:

92%

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Morning Uni! That IS cold!! It's 44 here with a high of 65 forecast. I can handle that!

Have a good one!

[Taylarie]

A balmy 51 here in Montana

[Uniblurb3]

Hey DC & Taylarie, yep we hit 32 and just had to have the coldest temp in Ohio.

I just happened to think after the 1st freeze the Asian Lady Beetles will be flocking to the house and I still have my 3 window AC units in. Better take them out today because if those little lady bug type insects get into the inside of the units I'll never get them out.

At least the S winds will be bringing in warmer temps this week. Of course rain will be coming with them.

Monday	Tuesday	Wednesday	Thursday	Friday
64° F | 46° F	72° F | 57° F	72° F | 50° F	72° F | 48° F	72° F | 48° F
Clear	Chance of T-storms 60% chance of precipitation	Chance of T-storms 70% chance of precipitation	Fog	Chance of Rain 50% chance of precipitation

[spd2demun]

Time for our annual HIT on Old Man Winter, Uni!  This year we should follow through!

What IS up with the acorns?  Tons falling here, only from Live Oaks, and they're extremely small and green.  Can't sleep or rest with the constant banging on the roof, really bad this year!

The crepe myrtles are still in bloom with all green leaves, normally by this time, they've shed all flowers and leaves would be turning yellow and orange.

We've been in the 90's and AC still running every day and night.  Mosquitoes still need a home somewhere else...

Expecting rain this weekend, we could use it.   Local news people talking about not being able to wear boots and winter clothes--if you want to dress for another season, move out of this city!