Help Needed XP machine now requires me to logon

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Help Needed XP machine now requires me to logon

I have a five plus year old HP desktop PC with XP Media Center Edition (SP2).  Yesterday, the wifey noticed that no web pages were loading.  Once in a great while, I have had to restart the PC to remedy this issue.

 

I had an errand to run, so I told her to restart the PC.  I got a cell phone call from her and she stated that some screen came up, wanting a password.

 

I came home and it was a Windows login screen.  There was a user account (one I must have created) and Administrator.  I have never had to log into windows like this before (maybe since I bought it).  I tried the user one (we'll call it "dhpc") but the icons, background and such were not what I had been using.

 

So, I must have always ran the PC in administrator mode.  I do not ever recall having an admin password but I sure can't get into the admin user.

 

So, how is the best way of cracking, resetting or deleting this admin password?  One free tool from MS requires SP3 which I don't have.

 

Many of the free tools that I have seen here, require a boot CD being made.  Is there any other free way of cracking, resetting or deleting the admin password?

 

Thanks!

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Re: Help Needed XP machine now requires me to logon

Did you just try leaving the password blank? See if it will let you log on that way.
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ACE - Master

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SomeJoe7777 wrote:
Did you just try leaving the password blank? See if it will let you log on that way.

Thanks.

 

Yeah I tried that and got the balloon "did you forget your password?" lol.  No Windows, I did not forget it as I never remember establishing one, lol.    

 

I told my wife that she may have to deal with a spartan PC until I can reset / delete/ etc. the admin password.  I do like the clean look of the "dhpc" account but many of the wife's shortcut icons are irreplaceable.  I know that they are still there, once I can log back in as admin.

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It is not running in safe mode? You've rebooted I presume. You could reboot, with F8 and choose "Last known good configuration"

 

 EDIT: and once it's up and running, update it. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Computer-Joe wrote:

It is not running in safe mode? You've rebooted I presume. You could reboot, with F8 and choose "Last known good configuration"

 

 EDIT: and once it's up and running, update it. 

 

 

 


Thanks CJ.  No, not in safe mode.  I tried doing a restore point and it stated that it restored but went right back to requiring a login.

 

I did see that I could stop it from requiring a login (start > run > control userpasswords2....) but I still need the admin PW, lol.

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The reason I asked about safe mode is because normally the "Adminitrator" login is only exposed in safe mode.

 

 

 

 

 

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Computer-Joe wrote:

The reason I asked about safe mode is because normally the "Adminitrator" login is only exposed in safe mode.

 

 

 



It hink if you have that checkbox marked a certain way, it will ask you to logon to a user account.  In my case, the two to chose from are "dhpc" and "Administrator."  The reason that I'm sure that I have always been on as administrator is, that right under the administrator login box, it said something like "500 unread messages" (LOL) and that is how many I have in Outlook Express (Double LOL). 

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Assuming you already guessed and it didn't work (pw could be your name, the spacebar and enter, or admin)

 

Is your user account an administrator account? If you just need to recover shortcuts, you can find them in C:/Documents and Settings.For reach user, there should be a favorites folder (you can open it to check what the favorites are) and copy that to whatever user account you are using.  (that is for the internet favorites). There is a desktop folder where you can copy the desktop shortcut icons. 

 

If you don't see these folders, you might need to enable vewing hidden files. (Control Panel, folder options, View, Show hidden files & folders.

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Nan2007 wrote:

Assuming you already guessed and it didn't work (pw could be your name, the spacebar and enter, or admin)

 

Is your user account an administrator account? If you just need to recover shortcuts, you can find them in C:/Documents and Settings.For reach user, there should be a favorites folder (you can open it to check what the favorites are) and copy that to whatever user account you are using.  (that is for the internet favorites). There is a desktop folder where you can copy the desktop shortcut icons. 

 

If you don't see these folders, you might need to enable vewing hidden files. (Control Panel, folder options, View, Show hidden files & folders.


Thanks.  I will try this weekend to crack or delete the admin PW.  If not then I may do that.  I am so used to the way that my PC looked /acted / worked before, if I can just get back to that, I (and the wife "more importantly") would be happy.  I could do what you suggest, import favorites, find old emails and such but will try that first.

 

User account (dhpc) is not an admin.

 

The biggest concern is how did this happen (ie where the PC now requires a login on restart).  The only oddball thing is, that the wife cleaned the Logitech keyboard.  Wonder if she invoked something?  Who knows.  Thanks again, y'all.

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dhpc not being an admin account is going to be a problem.

 

Well, now would be a good time to back up all those photos etc onto cds or dvds.

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Nan2007 wrote:

dhpc not being an admin account is going to be a problem.

 

Well, now would be a good time to back up all those photos etc onto cds or dvds.



I think that i will be able to reset or delete the admin PW but MS sure doesn't make it easy.

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dhascall wrote:

 

The biggest concern is how did this happen (ie where the PC now requires a login on restart).  The only oddball thing is, that the wife cleaned the Logitech keyboard.  Wonder if she invoked something?  Who knows.  Thanks again, y'all.



A couple things come to mind. In the screen saver config you can set it to require a password to return to the desktop, and in the power config you can set it to require a password to to come out of standby or sleep/hibernate modes. Neither of these settings should have affected the start-up login, although I'm unsure of the result of enabling those settings when you have a blank password.

 

There's also the possibility that if you never saw the login before. that you weren't using either the dhpc or the administrator accounts. I forget which one (Dell or HP) creates the user "Owner" that normally becomes the default user. Log in with your dhpc account and go to "C:\documents and settings" and see if there are any other user accounts listed besides dhpc.

 

 

 

 

 

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How can you be in two places at once, when your not anywhere at all?
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I really want to become a procrastinator, but I keep putting it off.
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There are three kinds of people, those that can count, and those that can't.
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“Our great democracies still tend to think that a stupid man is more likely to be honest than a clever man, and our politicians take advantage of this prejudice by pretending to be even more stupid than nature has made them.

Bertrand Russell

 

                              

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You may be able to "f8" (f'n key 8) during the boot, then select the rollback feature.
I'm not near an XPMC system, but I think rollback is one of the options (along with safe mode, command prompt, command prompt w/ network, etc.)
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If worse comes to worst, you could reinstall Windows, creating a new Admin user.

 

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Try running a Windows Repair with the disc in place?

 

I still have my old The Mother of All Windows (95); I'll see if there's anything in there about a solution.

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