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Monday, May 14th, 2012 1:29 AM

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802.11N Gateway?

It's been what, 4 years now for uVerse? 802.11N is now a fully ratified standard, and has been for years. Most every laptop, tablet, and cellphone is now shipping with built in 802.11N support. 802.11AC draft gear should start shipping this fall! I think most of us are sick and tired of having to put a second wireless router behind our 2Wire router for uVerse, and then not be able to use all the neat new WiFi remote apps for our cellphone's, including the most recent uVerse app. Seriously, it's time for AT&T to defecate or get off the pot and release either an 802.11N gateway, or an 802.11AC draft gateway. When can we expect to see AT&T make this very minor technological update and join the rest of us in the 21st Century?

Enquiring minds want to know...

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11 years ago

Wineaux, you have missed the point. ATT is not forcing you to spend more on equipment, it is your own choice. As for streaming 1080p on your network, you are actually incorrect on that info, due to the variables involved will never happen, due to the manufacturers have not come out with perfect Wireless equipment to stream 1080p.

I have no problem streaming 720p through Wifi, same with 1080p on my netbook to Youtube or Netflix.

So again, you are totally off base, and as far as I see it, it is one's opinion over the masses and those who have been around a long time to know what can and cannot happen, and what works for them.

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11 years ago

Nope.  YOU didn't read what I wrote.  I was NOT talking about streaming Netflix, which is compressed like crazy and will in fact degrade picture quality if it detects a lack of needed bandwidth.  I was talking about streaming my OWN content from my OWN internal server to other devices WITHIN my OWN network.  For that, the transfer rate of the wireless router is paramount.  Streaming high bitrate 1080p BD rips from a server to another TV or tablet at 802.11g speeds will transform a Hollywood blockbuster into something that resembles a slideshow of your family's summer vacation.  So yes.  If I want to use my internal wireless network the way I choose to, and the way more and more people are using their home networks these days, then I have no choice but to purchase a secondary router with acceptable wireless speeds.  Have you checked out Plex or XBMC to see what they offer?  Right now I am a u450 customer, but I'm about ready to dump all of my paid movie channels and use a small porton of that monthly savings to up my bandwidth. 

I can't do too much more because I'm actually about 300 feet too far from the switch, even though when I signed up and was installed over 3 years ago, I was assured I was in range.  What IS in range though for really high speed internet access and 4 HD streams is a little rundown trailer park which may or contain a meth lab or two, a smattering of maybe 20-25 small homes strung along a rural highway, a small rural grocery store, a Dollar General, a self service car wash, a large number of small woodland animals and stray cats & dogs, and maybe 1/8th of a very large neighborhood (mine) of $200K+ homes.  In three years has AT&T added either a repeater or new CO in our neighborhood to allow them actually service the only real paying customers out here?  Nope.  So I'll get the most bandwidth I can eek out of this awful implementation of uVerse, drop all of my movie channels, get the majority of my content via Plex and all of the incredible plugins that it offers, and count the days until EATEL shows up with real FIOS and 100GB/S download speeds.

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11 years ago


@gregzoll_1 wrote:

@Darknessrise wrote:

@gregzoll_1 wrote:

@RobM314 wrote:
The need for speed. 802.11g is limited to 54mbs. I want dual band at least 300+300. The ability to create SSID for visitors would be very nice.

It will not make your Internet connection any faster.  I laugh everytime someone brings up the subject of wanting Wireless-N, when their Internet speed does not give the means to even needing anything faster than Wireless-G.


You seem to be forgetting that the people using wireless won't be sitting their computer directly next to the gateway. You'll probably not even get high enough throughput a room or so away for a 23/3 tier. I was 3 or so rooms away with my gateway with 4 bars and could barely get over 7 Mbps when transfering files.

 


My RG sits in our basement, we get 54meg from it through Wifi, I test out at our 12meg speed with the profile that I have with ATT, and when I had 24meg, I still got a 24meg speedtest.  Even at 54 meg with Wireless-G, I have no problems moving files from my desktop to my netbook or vice-versa.

 


Must just be from where our RG was installed then. Years ago when we got U-verse they installed our RG on the opposite side of the house from all our internet devices and put it on the floor next to a bed and a lot of other objects.

 

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11 years ago

No, I read what you posted, and it is the same stuff you were ranting about six months ago. Nothing is going to change in the product ATT uses for their service, because it suffices for what it needs to be used for.

If a end user wants to add a N A/P, go ahead, you can do that due to they do not lock or restrict you from adding your equipment. As far as I am concerned, this is a moot point now and you have had your six minutes of fame on your soap box.

We all listened, tried to settle this in man to man, but you keep rehashing the same thing over and over.

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Must just be from where our RG was installed then. Years ago when we got U-verse they installed our RG on the opposite side of the house from all our internet devices and put it on the floor next to a bed and a lot of other objects.

 


I can walk out of my house and still pick up our RG from 100' away, and it sits three feet underground, so there is nothing wrong with the device that ATT leased to me.

 

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11 years ago


@gregzoll_1 wrote:


Must just be from where our RG was installed then. Years ago when we got U-verse they installed our RG on the opposite side of the house from all our internet devices and put it on the floor next to a bed and a lot of other objects.

 


I can walk out of my house and still pick up our RG from 100' away, and it sits three feet underground, so there is nothing wrong with the device that ATT leased to me.

 


I can only go about 50 feet before our wireless begins to have a lot of packet loss and drop outs with 2 bars. Raising the adapter from desk level to slightly over it gives me 4 bars with an"Ok" connection. Stupid installer who put our RG there :/.

 

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11 years ago

Nothing is stopping you from moving the RG up higher. Mine lays flat on a a/v rack downstairs, same place I have always had my networking equipment for the past 9 years.

We have Gyprock on the walls, Aluminum siding on the outside of the house and never have had issues with any A/P that I have had running down there.

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11 years ago

Coaxial cable isn't long enough to move it further. Would also be too much of an annoyance to re run the thing from the basement :/.

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11 years ago


@gregzoll_1 wrote:

I can walk out of my house and still pick up our RG from 100' away, and it sits three feet underground, so there is nothing wrong with the device that ATT leased to me.

 


 

 

When we had our Uverse, I mounted the 3800 in the basement, to the bottom of the floor joists of the first floor (that's where the phone line came in). It was technically above ground level but still surrounded by the 12 -15 inch thick fieldstone foundation and I could still get a strong signal out in the detached garage ~75 feet away.

 

No, the strength of the signal was never an issue, how the system held up in the face of interference though is a different story. It was fairly good at first but the problem was after there were four or five more RGs in range, wireless throughput went in the crapper. It worked alright for a wireless printer and a couple of laptops for basic web use. but if you wanted to do any streaming, you had to get out the ethernet cable. Although I've not had the opportunity to experience it first hand, from what I've read on here over the years the 2WIREs aren't exactly Apple freindly.

 

I guess we should be happy they even allow more than one computer on your connection. I remember when DSL first came around, if you had to have a tech come out, you had to disconnect and hide your router and all the extra ethernet cables.Smiley Very Happy

 

 

 




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11 years ago

Yep.  Six months and no reply nor discussion from AT&T on this.  It speaks volumes.  There was a great SNL sketch with Lilly Tomlin back in the very first year of the show as an AT&T operator.  The tagline for the spoof commercial?  "We're the phone company.  We don't care.  We don't have to."  Nothing has changed, and that mentality still pervades the ivory towers of AT&T's corporate office where they no longer will allow their customers to call and speak to either their executives or their assisstants.  When you start having to hide from your own customers, you know there's a problem...

 

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