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Edited by ilikewireless on Jul 10, 2011 at 11:44:50 PM

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 

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ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.

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*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.
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Well, over AT&T under GoPhone "brand" of plan options, there are two types of plans available which are: Pay As You Go, and Pick Your Plan. So, if you want to go for Pay As You Go then you should look at the Pay As You Go network coverage, the link of which is following:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif?01AD=3snqOH9ttYkHEYW3Zg2...=

 

Pick Your Plan options are a different kind of plan offering from AT&T. They are not Pay As You Go offering. Meanwhile, AT&T has stopped offering Pick Your Plan options to new customers.

 

 

Well, over AT&T under GoPhone "brand" of plan options, there are two types of plans available which are: Pay As You Go, and Pick Your Plan. So, if you want to go for Pay As You Go then you should look at the Pay As You Go network coverage, the link of which is following:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif?01AD=3snqOH9ttYkHEYW3Zg2zwfvxyxvRqU-cIlsk68nR6iqZWcKtruAuwmg&01RI=524D4DF6301429E&01NA=

 

Pick Your Plan options are a different kind of plan offering from AT&T. They are not Pay As You Go offering. Meanwhile, AT&T has stopped offering Pick Your Plan options to new customers.

 

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ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

     - Doug Larson


ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

     - Doug Larson

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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Edited by ilikewireless on Jul 11, 2011 at 9:07:55 AM

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.


 

 

 

Thanks hme83. I have another question. When I drill down to an area say:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=payg&lat=45.26593796060786&lon=-111.2528504289296&...

 

how do I interpret the shaded area with different colors?


hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.


 

 

 

Thanks hme83. I have another question. When I drill down to an area say:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=payg&lat=45.26593796060786&lon=-111.2528504289296&sci=9

 

how do I interpret the shaded area with different colors?

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ilikewireless wrote:

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.


 

 

 

Thanks hme83. I have another question. When I drill down to an area say:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=payg&lat=45.26593796060786&lon=-111.2528504289296&...

 

how do I interpret the shaded area with different colors?


Once you've drilled down into a specific area, you should be able to scroll down slightly and see the legend.  I hadn't looked at the coverage viewer for GoPhone in awhile; interestingly enough, they are now indicating specifically where there is 3G coverage for GoPhone service, as well as having an indicator for roaming partner coverage (although I couldn't find any areas indicated on the map for roaming partner coverage).

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

     - Doug Larson


ilikewireless wrote:

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.


 

 

 

Thanks hme83. I have another question. When I drill down to an area say:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=payg&lat=45.26593796060786&lon=-111.2528504289296&sci=9

 

how do I interpret the shaded area with different colors?


Once you've drilled down into a specific area, you should be able to scroll down slightly and see the legend.  I hadn't looked at the coverage viewer for GoPhone in awhile; interestingly enough, they are now indicating specifically where there is 3G coverage for GoPhone service, as well as having an indicator for roaming partner coverage (although I couldn't find any areas indicated on the map for roaming partner coverage).

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

     - Doug Larson

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.


 

 

 

Thanks hme83. I have another question. When I drill down to an area say:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=payg&lat=45.26593796060786&lon=-111.2528504289296&...

 

how do I interpret the shaded area with different colors?


Once you've drilled down into a specific area, you should be able to scroll down slightly and see the legend.  I hadn't looked at the coverage viewer for GoPhone in awhile; interestingly enough, they are now indicating specifically where there is 3G coverage for GoPhone service, as well as having an indicator for roaming partner coverage (although I couldn't find any areas indicated on the map for roaming partner coverage).



Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?


hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:

I have a question regarding wireless coverage:

 

Under Terms and Conditions, if I click coverage, this is what I get for Pay As You Go:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/payasyougo.gif

 

and this is what I get for Pick Your Plan:

http://www.wireless.att.com/support_static_files/images/maps/pickyourplan.gif

 

There is another coverage map on the AT&T Coverage Viewer, with Pay As You Go clicked:

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=gophone&opt=payg

 

So for Pay As You Go type, which map do I use?

 

Thanks.

 

 

 

 


As already noted, at&t ceased offering Pick Your Plan service for new customers quite some time ago.  I would use the GoPhone information from the coverage viewer (it's for PayGo service).  The other map looks like it is something put together for a brochure - it gives no "effective" or "update" date, as is given at the coverage viewer.  Also if you look at the final sentence, it pretty much indicates there may be quite a bit of wishful thinking included in the map - not only in terms of terrain issues, etc., but also plans for future coverage.  Since there is no distinction between the two on the map, I'd want to know what at&t actually states their current coverage footprint is.

 

Additionally, with the coverage viewer you can drill down into a specific area of interest.  It's easy for it to appear there is complete coverage in an area on the highest level maps; but in many areas once you start drilling down you can see there are really very large coverage gaps.


 

 

 

Thanks hme83. I have another question. When I drill down to an area say:

 

http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/#?type=payg&lat=45.26593796060786&lon=-111.2528504289296&sci=9

 

how do I interpret the shaded area with different colors?


Once you've drilled down into a specific area, you should be able to scroll down slightly and see the legend.  I hadn't looked at the coverage viewer for GoPhone in awhile; interestingly enough, they are now indicating specifically where there is 3G coverage for GoPhone service, as well as having an indicator for roaming partner coverage (although I couldn't find any areas indicated on the map for roaming partner coverage).



Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?

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ilikewireless wrote:
Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?


Yes - they seem to be indicating the moderate/good/best categorization and then overlaying the 3G indicator - so the areas with 3G coverage will also have 2G coverage.

 

I found it interesting that in many states in my area of the country (I live in Oklahoma) where there are pretty large GoPhone coverage gaps, they are indicating what coverage they have *is* 3G coverage (ex. New Mexico, Colorado).  Yet in Oklahoma where they have a significant footprint of native network 3G coverage for post paid customers, they do not indicate any of the GoPhone service is 3G (and realistically, my post paid service is no faster in terms of data access than my prepaid service is anyway).  And in South Dakota, the entire state is pretty much blanketed in GoPhone 3G coverage *except* for the primary interstate corridors - which seems odd to me.  lol.

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ilikewireless wrote:
Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?


Yes - they seem to be indicating the moderate/good/best categorization and then overlaying the 3G indicator - so the areas with 3G coverage will also have 2G coverage.

 

I found it interesting that in many states in my area of the country (I live in Oklahoma) where there are pretty large GoPhone coverage gaps, they are indicating what coverage they have *is* 3G coverage (ex. New Mexico, Colorado).  Yet in Oklahoma where they have a significant footprint of native network 3G coverage for post paid customers, they do not indicate any of the GoPhone service is 3G (and realistically, my post paid service is no faster in terms of data access than my prepaid service is anyway).  And in South Dakota, the entire state is pretty much blanketed in GoPhone 3G coverage *except* for the primary interstate corridors - which seems odd to me.  lol.

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     - Doug Larson

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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Edited by ilikewireless on Jul 13, 2011 at 12:50:40 PM

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:
Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?


Yes - they seem to be indicating the moderate/good/best categorization and then overlaying the 3G indicator - so the areas with 3G coverage will also have 2G coverage.

 

I found it interesting that in many states in my area of the country (I live in Oklahoma) where there are pretty large GoPhone coverage gaps, they are indicating what coverage they have *is* 3G coverage (ex. New Mexico, Colorado).  Yet in Oklahoma where they have a significant footprint of native network 3G coverage for post paid customers, they do not indicate any of the GoPhone service is 3G (and realistically, my post paid service is no faster in terms of data access than my prepaid service is anyway).  And in South Dakota, the entire state is pretty much blanketed in GoPhone 3G coverage *except* for the primary interstate corridors - which seems odd to me.  lol.


lol. That's incredible. No 3G along the East Coast???

 


 


hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:
Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?


Yes - they seem to be indicating the moderate/good/best categorization and then overlaying the 3G indicator - so the areas with 3G coverage will also have 2G coverage.

 

I found it interesting that in many states in my area of the country (I live in Oklahoma) where there are pretty large GoPhone coverage gaps, they are indicating what coverage they have *is* 3G coverage (ex. New Mexico, Colorado).  Yet in Oklahoma where they have a significant footprint of native network 3G coverage for post paid customers, they do not indicate any of the GoPhone service is 3G (and realistically, my post paid service is no faster in terms of data access than my prepaid service is anyway).  And in South Dakota, the entire state is pretty much blanketed in GoPhone 3G coverage *except* for the primary interstate corridors - which seems odd to me.  lol.


lol. That's incredible. No 3G along the East Coast???

 


 

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Edited by ilikewireless on Jul 13, 2011 at 2:58:53 PM

ilikewireless wrote:

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:
Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?


Yes - they seem to be indicating the moderate/good/best categorization and then overlaying the 3G indicator - so the areas with 3G coverage will also have 2G coverage.

 

I found it interesting that in many states in my area of the country (I live in Oklahoma) where there are pretty large GoPhone coverage gaps, they are indicating what coverage they have *is* 3G coverage (ex. New Mexico, Colorado).  Yet in Oklahoma where they have a significant footprint of native network 3G coverage for post paid customers, they do not indicate any of the GoPhone service is 3G (and realistically, my post paid service is no faster in terms of data access than my prepaid service is anyway).  And in South Dakota, the entire state is pretty much blanketed in GoPhone 3G coverage *except* for the primary interstate corridors - which seems odd to me.  lol.


lol. That's incredible. No 3G along the East Coast???

 

When I tried editing this a second time, it is verboten. Perhaps the editing time expired for the previous post?

 

Anyway, when I come to think of it, chances are that the map is correct. Here's a possible explanation:

 

I am guessing that perhaps it has more to do with how the map is interpreted. One possible interpretation could be that the map would specify 3G requirement only in areas where the spec is absolutely necessary. For example, in New York, 2G or 3G handsets would work so that there would be no need to specify,"3G handset required". On the other hand, in Big Sky Montana, only 3G would be available for GoPhone access to towers. Hence they specify,"3G Gophone required". The scheme is kind of like reporting by exception, to avoid cluttering the map. If so, AT&T should clarify how information is displayed. It's always not easy to put too much information on a map with 2G, 3G, 4G plus signal strength indications - it can easily become unreadable. I believe there's always a need to balance readability with the amount of information one can put on a map.


 


 


ilikewireless wrote:

hme83 wrote:

ilikewireless wrote:
Interesting. I just happened to pick an area with no roaming partner.

 

Would you think that areas shown as 3G is overlaid on 2G?


Yes - they seem to be indicating the moderate/good/best categorization and then overlaying the 3G indicator - so the areas with 3G coverage will also have 2G coverage.

 

I found it interesting that in many states in my area of the country (I live in Oklahoma) where there are pretty large GoPhone coverage gaps, they are indicating what coverage they have *is* 3G coverage (ex. New Mexico, Colorado).  Yet in Oklahoma where they have a significant footprint of native network 3G coverage for post paid customers, they do not indicate any of the GoPhone service is 3G (and realistically, my post paid service is no faster in terms of data access than my prepaid service is anyway).  And in South Dakota, the entire state is pretty much blanketed in GoPhone 3G coverage *except* for the primary interstate corridors - which seems odd to me.  lol.


lol. That's incredible. No 3G along the East Coast???

 

When I tried editing this a second time, it is verboten. Perhaps the editing time expired for the previous post?

 

Anyway, when I come to think of it, chances are that the map is correct. Here's a possible explanation:

 

I am guessing that perhaps it has more to do with how the map is interpreted. One possible interpretation could be that the map would specify 3G requirement only in areas where the spec is absolutely necessary. For example, in New York, 2G or 3G handsets would work so that there would be no need to specify,"3G handset required". On the other hand, in Big Sky Montana, only 3G would be available for GoPhone access to towers. Hence they specify,"3G Gophone required". The scheme is kind of like reporting by exception, to avoid cluttering the map. If so, AT&T should clarify how information is displayed. It's always not easy to put too much information on a map with 2G, 3G, 4G plus signal strength indications - it can easily become unreadable. I believe there's always a need to balance readability with the amount of information one can put on a map.


 


 

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lol. That's incredible. No 3G along the East Coast???

 

When I tried editing this a second time, it is verboten. Perhaps the editing time expired for the previous post?

 

Anyway, when I come to think of it, chances are that the map is correct. Here's a possible explanation:

 

I am guessing that perhaps it has more to do with how the map is interpreted. One possible interpretation could be that the map would specify 3G requirement only in areas where the spec is absolutely necessary. For example, in New York, 2G or 3G handsets would work so that there would be no need to specify,"3G handset required". On the other hand, in Big Sky Montana, only 3G would be available for GoPhone access to towers. Hence they specify,"3G Gophone required". The scheme is kind of like reporting by exception, to avoid cluttering the map. If so, AT&T should clarify how information is displayed. It's always not easy to put too much information on a map with 2G, 3G, 4G plus signal strength indications - it can easily become unreadable. I believe there's always a need to balance readability with the amount of information one can put on a map.


 


 



I believe you can only edit a post for an hour. Smiley Happy

 

You may be correct in your interpretation - I really don't know.  It does seem strange that there isn't more 3G indicated over the eastern half of the US - just a couple of little pockets in Alabama and Virginia.  Because of the way they have overlaid the 3G indicator on top of the good/better/best indication, the way I was taking the comment was just that it requires a 3G capable device to receive 3G service, but that you'd still have the GSM network if you aren't using a 3G capable device.  And I was presuming that maybe at&t has given GoPhone access to the 3G network in areas of the country where they feel they can do so without compromising the quality of service for all customers.  Since the introduction of the iPhones, at&t has taken the worst rap for their service level along both coasts; so maybe within the interior, western part of the US they can give prepaid customers access to the 3G network - either due to their own original network footprint or recent acquisitions. (?) 

 

I really don't know - someone who keeps up more with the network/at&t "history" side of things (acquisitions/technology acquired) might be able to shed some light on it. 

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lol. That's incredible. No 3G along the East Coast???

 

When I tried editing this a second time, it is verboten. Perhaps the editing time expired for the previous post?

 

Anyway, when I come to think of it, chances are that the map is correct. Here's a possible explanation:

 

I am guessing that perhaps it has more to do with how the map is interpreted. One possible interpretation could be that the map would specify 3G requirement only in areas where the spec is absolutely necessary. For example, in New York, 2G or 3G handsets would work so that there would be no need to specify,"3G handset required". On the other hand, in Big Sky Montana, only 3G would be available for GoPhone access to towers. Hence they specify,"3G Gophone required". The scheme is kind of like reporting by exception, to avoid cluttering the map. If so, AT&T should clarify how information is displayed. It's always not easy to put too much information on a map with 2G, 3G, 4G plus signal strength indications - it can easily become unreadable. I believe there's always a need to balance readability with the amount of information one can put on a map.


 


 



I believe you can only edit a post for an hour. Smiley Happy

 

You may be correct in your interpretation - I really don't know.  It does seem strange that there isn't more 3G indicated over the eastern half of the US - just a couple of little pockets in Alabama and Virginia.  Because of the way they have overlaid the 3G indicator on top of the good/better/best indication, the way I was taking the comment was just that it requires a 3G capable device to receive 3G service, but that you'd still have the GSM network if you aren't using a 3G capable device.  And I was presuming that maybe at&t has given GoPhone access to the 3G network in areas of the country where they feel they can do so without compromising the quality of service for all customers.  Since the introduction of the iPhones, at&t has taken the worst rap for their service level along both coasts; so maybe within the interior, western part of the US they can give prepaid customers access to the 3G network - either due to their own original network footprint or recent acquisitions. (?) 

 

I really don't know - someone who keeps up more with the network/at&t "history" side of things (acquisitions/technology acquired) might be able to shed some light on it. 

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hme83,

 

Thank you very much for all your replies. I really appreciate you for sharing your thoughts with everyone.

 

 

hme83,

 

Thank you very much for all your replies. I really appreciate you for sharing your thoughts with everyone.

 

 

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I just wanted to chime in and say that I live on the East Coast and I get 3G service. I would like it if the coverag map were a bit more explanatory, for example it says that there is limited roaming off the AT&T network for  Go Phone users and I would like to know how limited it is.

I just wanted to chime in and say that I live on the East Coast and I get 3G service. I would like it if the coverag map were a bit more explanatory, for example it says that there is limited roaming off the AT&T network for  Go Phone users and I would like to know how limited it is.

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hme83,

 

Thank you very much for all your replies. I really appreciate you for sharing your thoughts with everyone.

 

 


You're welcome. Smiley Happy

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hme83,

 

Thank you very much for all your replies. I really appreciate you for sharing your thoughts with everyone.

 

 


You're welcome. Smiley Happy

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Razr8 wrote:

I just wanted to chime in and say that I live on the East Coast and I get 3G service. I would like it if the coverag map were a bit more explanatory, for example it says that there is limited roaming off the AT&T network for  Go Phone users and I would like to know how limited it is.


I just tried my 3G at&t branded W518a with the prepaid SIM - specifically to see if I am using the 3G network here.  I am - the ability for simultaneous voice and data is present.  (Just to confirm the network being used.  On an at&t branded device, they can probably make the network indicators function however they desire - at one time they were not displaying the "Edge" indicator, for ex.)  I'm also in an area where they are not indicating 3G coverage for PayGo GoPhone service on the coverage viewer. 

 

All that said however, data speeds are no faster than they are with my at&t branded 2G W580i; so at least for me "getting 3G service" is just a matter of semantics - for both my prepaid and post paid service.  lol. Smiley Sad

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Razr8 wrote:

I just wanted to chime in and say that I live on the East Coast and I get 3G service. I would like it if the coverag map were a bit more explanatory, for example it says that there is limited roaming off the AT&T network for  Go Phone users and I would like to know how limited it is.


I just tried my 3G at&t branded W518a with the prepaid SIM - specifically to see if I am using the 3G network here.  I am - the ability for simultaneous voice and data is present.  (Just to confirm the network being used.  On an at&t branded device, they can probably make the network indicators function however they desire - at one time they were not displaying the "Edge" indicator, for ex.)  I'm also in an area where they are not indicating 3G coverage for PayGo GoPhone service on the coverage viewer. 

 

All that said however, data speeds are no faster than they are with my at&t branded 2G W580i; so at least for me "getting 3G service" is just a matter of semantics - for both my prepaid and post paid service.  lol. Smiley Sad

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That's interesting, that your post paid and prepaid data speeds are the same. Is that pretty much how it is all the time and everywhere you go?

That's interesting, that your post paid and prepaid data speeds are the same. Is that pretty much how it is all the time and everywhere you go?

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Edited by ilikewireless on Jul 15, 2011 at 10:41:40 AM

That's interesting. It's as if you were getting lowest speed on 3G vs the highest speed on EDGE.

 

That's interesting. It's as if you were getting lowest speed on 3G vs the highest speed on EDGE.

 

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Edited by hme83 on Jul 16, 2011 at 5:36:53 AM

Razr8 wrote:

That's interesting, that your post paid and prepaid data speeds are the same. Is that pretty much how it is all the time and everywhere you go?


I haven't done comparison testing between the two SE's except while at home.  But I've used the 3G SE elsewhere with no noticeable improvement in data speeds - although I also don't use my phone for data much outside of e-mail.  (I have no real desire/need to browse using a cell phone.)   I actually like the Navigator (lol) that came on it - that's why I bought the phone - and it seems to function well enough for that, at least in the areas I've used it so far.

 


ilikewireless wrote:

That's interesting. It's as if you were getting lowest speed on 3G vs the highest speed on EDGE.

 


I've been told that at&t may be throttling data speeds on non-smartphones at least in some areas of the country, so I suspect that may be the issue.  I know someone else who experienced the same thing (different part of the country - post paid service) and when they switched to a 3G smartphone from a 3G non-smartphone (both non-branded), they said the difference was night and day.  My (non-branded) Nokia E70 is a smartphone, but it's not 3G so I haven't been able to see if it holds true for my service as well. Smiley Happy

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Razr8 wrote:

That's interesting, that your post paid and prepaid data speeds are the same. Is that pretty much how it is all the time and everywhere you go?


I haven't done comparison testing between the two SE's except while at home.  But I've used the 3G SE elsewhere with no noticeable improvement in data speeds - although I also don't use my phone for data much outside of e-mail.  (I have no real desire/need to browse using a cell phone.)   I actually like the Navigator (lol) that came on it - that's why I bought the phone - and it seems to function well enough for that, at least in the areas I've used it so far.

 


ilikewireless wrote:

That's interesting. It's as if you were getting lowest speed on 3G vs the highest speed on EDGE.

 


I've been told that at&t may be throttling data speeds on non-smartphones at least in some areas of the country, so I suspect that may be the issue.  I know someone else who experienced the same thing (different part of the country - post paid service) and when they switched to a 3G smartphone from a 3G non-smartphone (both non-branded), they said the difference was night and day.  My (non-branded) Nokia E70 is a smartphone, but it's not 3G so I haven't been able to see if it holds true for my service as well. Smiley Happy

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I appreciate your input hme83 Man Happy

I appreciate your input hme83 Man Happy

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I appreciate your input hme83 Man Happy


Happy to share my experiences. Smiley Happy

 

And I just noticed you really asked about any differences I'd noted in prepaid vs. postpaid data speeds (not 2G vs. 3G) in other locations - I don't always have both phones with me; but I switch SIMs (prepaid vs. postpaid) often enough to comfortably say I've not noticed any difference in data speeds between the two service types.  I've seen it said on many occasions and over a decent time span that at&t throttles the prepaid service data speeds; but at least with my limited basis usage, that has not been my experience.  My prepaid service is on par with my post paid service, although the network coverage is really no where close to being the same once you are away from the major interstates.

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Razr8 wrote:

I appreciate your input hme83 Man Happy


Happy to share my experiences. Smiley Happy

 

And I just noticed you really asked about any differences I'd noted in prepaid vs. postpaid data speeds (not 2G vs. 3G) in other locations - I don't always have both phones with me; but I switch SIMs (prepaid vs. postpaid) often enough to comfortably say I've not noticed any difference in data speeds between the two service types.  I've seen it said on many occasions and over a decent time span that at&t throttles the prepaid service data speeds; but at least with my limited basis usage, that has not been my experience.  My prepaid service is on par with my post paid service, although the network coverage is really no where close to being the same once you are away from the major interstates.

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Again very informative and appreciated. Also, the quote at the bottom of your post sounds like something Gary Larson would say! Smiley Very Happy

Again very informative and appreciated. Also, the quote at the bottom of your post sounds like something Gary Larson would say! Smiley Very Happy

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