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would someone explain to me exactly what debrand means i have a se z750a
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i've been told that my z750a cannot use sound files over 600kb as ringtones because at&t limits the size you can use, although sony ericsson's info on the phone says you can use any mp3 file as ringtones. would debranding remove this restriction? also, how exactly or where do i get it debranded if i decide to?
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Z750a is sold in US with ATT firmware (software). Debrand means taking out ATT software and installing Sony Ericsson software. By debranding you will get new options (which are deleted by ATT) and also you will loose ATT softwares. SE menu is different from ATT menu and also the functions of the buttons changes. For Z750a there is no free debrand, you have to pay around $16 to debrand. So many claimed that the battery life increased and are happy with SE menu even though they lost some of the options. There are some threads in this forum or you can google for debranding Z750a. 
Z750a is sold in US with ATT firmware (software). Debrand means taking out ATT software and installing Sony Ericsson software. By debranding you will get new options (which are deleted by ATT) and also you will loose ATT softwares. SE menu is different from ATT menu and also the functions of the buttons changes. For Z750a there is no free debrand, you have to pay around $16 to debrand. So many claimed that the battery life increased and are happy with SE menu even though they lost some of the options. There are some threads in this forum or you can google for debranding Z750a. 

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Z750a is sold in US with ATT firmware (software). Debrand means taking out ATT software and installing Sony Ericsson software. By debranding you will get new options (which are deleted by ATT) and also you will loose ATT softwares. SE menu is different from ATT menu and also the functions of the buttons changes. For Z750a there is no free debrand, you have to pay around $16 to debrand. So many claimed that the battery life increased and are happy with SE menu even though they lost some of the options. There are some threads in this forum or you can google for debranding Z750a.

I debranded mine so quickly I don't even know what I lost, but I doubt there was anything worth keeping Smiley Tongue No regrets Smiley Very Happy


rfreslist wrote:
Z750a is sold in US with ATT firmware (software). Debrand means taking out ATT software and installing Sony Ericsson software. By debranding you will get new options (which are deleted by ATT) and also you will loose ATT softwares. SE menu is different from ATT menu and also the functions of the buttons changes. For Z750a there is no free debrand, you have to pay around $16 to debrand. So many claimed that the battery life increased and are happy with SE menu even though they lost some of the options. There are some threads in this forum or you can google for debranding Z750a.

I debranded mine so quickly I don't even know what I lost, but I doubt there was anything worth keeping Smiley Tongue No regrets Smiley Very Happy
*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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  The worst part of debranding(if you get caught) is it voids your warranty why I dunno because you did nothing to the hardware but before you you do it make sure you have a backup plan(or insurance on the phone) in case it all goes south on the reflash.  Overall though I do believe debranding is worth it.

 


I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.
  The worst part of debranding(if you get caught) is it voids your warranty why I dunno because you did nothing to the hardware but before you you do it make sure you have a backup plan(or insurance on the phone) in case it all goes south on the reflash.  Overall though I do believe debranding is worth it.

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Edited by Kaalaman on Nov 22, 2008 at 9:02:30 AM
What's the difference between unlocking and debranding then?  Unlocking allows different network use?  Debranding is removal of proprietary software from a given company?
 
I'm thinking of debranding my w760, just weighing it out the pros/cons.  I'm pretty sure I'm off warranty, so wth, right?
 
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From Yahoo Answers:
unlocking is where you open it to all networks.
debranding is where you remove all network specific software. eg... vodafone live/o2 active menu links. then its reset to manufactures software.


Message Edited by Kaalaman on 11-22-2008 09:02:30 AM
What's the difference between unlocking and debranding then?  Unlocking allows different network use?  Debranding is removal of proprietary software from a given company?
 
I'm thinking of debranding my w760, just weighing it out the pros/cons.  I'm pretty sure I'm off warranty, so wth, right?
 
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From Yahoo Answers:
unlocking is where you open it to all networks.
debranding is where you remove all network specific software. eg... vodafone live/o2 active menu links. then its reset to manufactures software.


Message Edited by Kaalaman on 11-22-2008 09:02:30 AM

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  Yes debranding just removes ATT's crapware/restrictions and unlocking lets you use the phone with any carrier.

 


I am an AT&T employee and the postings on this site are my own and don’t necessarily represent AT&T’s positions, strategies or opinions.
  Yes debranding just removes ATT's crapware/restrictions and unlocking lets you use the phone with any carrier.

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There is a one year manufacturer's warranty, so I'd be pretty surprised if you are already off warranty on the W760a. Smiley Wink

Most people seem to believe the benefits of debranding outweigh the cons (as do I) - but two things to consider first that are specific to the at&t firmware, so if you care about them you may not want to debrand.

The IM client - at&t's use of the OZ client allows them to convert IM activity to SMS messages for billing purposes (instead of charging it as data).  I have not seen anyone indicate they've found a replacement client that uses SMS for IM activity.

Cingular Video - you won't have access to the at&t MediaMall once you debrand.  Most items are available elsewhere anyway - usually for less or even free.  But if you were intending to use CV, you will not be able to do so once you debrand.

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There is a one year manufacturer's warranty, so I'd be pretty surprised if you are already off warranty on the W760a. Smiley Wink

Most people seem to believe the benefits of debranding outweigh the cons (as do I) - but two things to consider first that are specific to the at&t firmware, so if you care about them you may not want to debrand.

The IM client - at&t's use of the OZ client allows them to convert IM activity to SMS messages for billing purposes (instead of charging it as data).  I have not seen anyone indicate they've found a replacement client that uses SMS for IM activity.

Cingular Video - you won't have access to the at&t MediaMall once you debrand.  Most items are available elsewhere anyway - usually for less or even free.  But if you were intending to use CV, you will not be able to do so once you debrand.

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*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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Well, It's a unique situation as I near the very end of my year warrranty and had gone thru 2 W580s that went sour on me.  I brought my 580 into a core store and one of their CSRs managed to secure me a 760a.  So, my warrranty is pretty much over with a 760 in my pocket.  Smiley Happy

The maybe the biggest (of a small set of concerns) is not so much getting to CV but the MEDIA SERVER.  I can watch youtube on my 760 (I have unlimited data plan) as it is now, but if I debrand, I'd like to know if I wouldn't be able to access the media server to occasionally watch things on youtube or rather, access the MEDIA SERVER.  Beyond that, whatever else I lose by debranding is made up in what I gain - more stock functions, no nag screeens ("allow access to?"), etc.

Thoughts?

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Well, It's a unique situation as I near the very end of my year warrranty and had gone thru 2 W580s that went sour on me.  I brought my 580 into a core store and one of their CSRs managed to secure me a 760a.  So, my warrranty is pretty much over with a 760 in my pocket.  Smiley Happy

The maybe the biggest (of a small set of concerns) is not so much getting to CV but the MEDIA SERVER.  I can watch youtube on my 760 (I have unlimited data plan) as it is now, but if I debrand, I'd like to know if I wouldn't be able to access the media server to occasionally watch things on youtube or rather, access the MEDIA SERVER.  Beyond that, whatever else I lose by debranding is made up in what I gain - more stock functions, no nag screeens ("allow access to?"), etc.

Thoughts?

Kaal

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i've been told that my z750a cannot use sound files over 600kb as ringtones because at&t limits the size you can use, although sony ericsson's info on the phone says you can use any mp3 file as ringtones. would debranding remove this restriction? also, how exactly or where do i get it debranded if i decide to?
i've been told that my z750a cannot use sound files over 600kb as ringtones because at&t limits the size you can use, although sony ericsson's info on the phone says you can use any mp3 file as ringtones. would debranding remove this restriction? also, how exactly or where do i get it debranded if i decide to?

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also i've seen some mention of losing internet or medianet capabilities by debranding...i'm wondering what exactly i will lose. i don't use internet on my phone except for when i purchase ringtones (which is what i'm hoping to avoid by figuring out how to use my own music files as ringtones) and sending an occasional mms message. would i not be able to access my phone's internet at all? is there somewhere i can find out exactly what will change if i debrand? thanks for any help!
also i've seen some mention of losing internet or medianet capabilities by debranding...i'm wondering what exactly i will lose. i don't use internet on my phone except for when i purchase ringtones (which is what i'm hoping to avoid by figuring out how to use my own music files as ringtones) and sending an occasional mms message. would i not be able to access my phone's internet at all? is there somewhere i can find out exactly what will change if i debrand? thanks for any help!

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also i've seen some mention of losing internet or medianet capabilities by debranding...i'm wondering what exactly i will lose. i don't use internet on my phone except for when i purchase ringtones (which is what i'm hoping to avoid by figuring out how to use my own music files as ringtones) and sending an occasional mms message. would i not be able to access my phone's internet at all? is there somewhere i can find out exactly what will change if i debrand? thanks for any help!

Yes, you will be able to use the internet, you'll just need to get the MEdiaNet settings on your phone by visiting the SE site and having them sent to your phone as an SMS.


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also i've seen some mention of losing internet or medianet capabilities by debranding...i'm wondering what exactly i will lose. i don't use internet on my phone except for when i purchase ringtones (which is what i'm hoping to avoid by figuring out how to use my own music files as ringtones) and sending an occasional mms message. would i not be able to access my phone's internet at all? is there somewhere i can find out exactly what will change if i debrand? thanks for any help!

Yes, you will be able to use the internet, you'll just need to get the MEdiaNet settings on your phone by visiting the SE site and having them sent to your phone as an SMS.
*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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You will still have access to MediaNet even after debranding.  You'll need to go to the SE website and have the settings for MediaNet and MMS sent to your phone, but it should be fairly simple to get set back up again.

And congrats on scoring a W760 out of a W580i. Smiley Happy

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

     - Doug Larson

You will still have access to MediaNet even after debranding.  You'll need to go to the SE website and have the settings for MediaNet and MMS sent to your phone, but it should be fairly simple to get set back up again.

And congrats on scoring a W760 out of a W580i. Smiley Happy

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*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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Under "options" for the post, the first choice should be to "mark/unmark as solution".  Smiley Happy  You apparently accidentally selected to mark it.  You can still unmark it too. Smiley Wink

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Under "options" for the post, the first choice should be to "mark/unmark as solution".  Smiley Happy  You apparently accidentally selected to mark it.  You can still unmark it too. Smiley Wink

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You will still have access to MediaNet even after debranding.  You'll need to go to the SE website and have the settings for MediaNet and MMS sent to your phone, but it should be fairly simple to get set back up again.

And congrats on scoring a W760 out of a W580i. Smiley Happy



Access to MediaNet including the MediaServer i.e. streaming video?

And thanks, the CSR was a rockstar in helping me out.  Smiley Very Happy


hme83 wrote:
You will still have access to MediaNet even after debranding.  You'll need to go to the SE website and have the settings for MediaNet and MMS sent to your phone, but it should be fairly simple to get set back up again.

And congrats on scoring a W760 out of a W580i. Smiley Happy



Access to MediaNet including the MediaServer i.e. streaming video?

And thanks, the CSR was a rockstar in helping me out.  Smiley Very Happy

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I'll have to let someone who streams video answer that - but as far as I know there are no issues with streaming video to unbranded devices - as long as the device supports it and you have data access.  To my knowledge, it's just at&t's own "Cingular Video" product you would not be able to subscribe to - but there are other subscription services, such as MobiTV, etc.
 
Yep - that's a pretty good tradeoff!  Smiley Very Happy 
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I'll have to let someone who streams video answer that - but as far as I know there are no issues with streaming video to unbranded devices - as long as the device supports it and you have data access.  To my knowledge, it's just at&t's own "Cingular Video" product you would not be able to subscribe to - but there are other subscription services, such as MobiTV, etc.
 
Yep - that's a pretty good tradeoff!  Smiley Very Happy 
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ugh... im an dummy..  how do u debrand the w760?  wht programworks best? 
ugh... im an dummy..  how do u debrand the w760?  wht programworks best? 

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Think carefully before debranding - there are a couple of things you will lose that may be important to you: 1) the ability to use IM and have it billed as SMS usage 2) access to at&t purchased content at the MediaMall, Cingular Video, etc.  (Most of these things or similar are available elsewhere, however - many times free or less expensive).  Also if you aren't technically competent, you can brick your phone - and you likely void your warranty.

 

If you don't consider yourself to be technically competent, yet you want to move forward with debranding - take a look at DaVinci Team.  It is an on-line paid service - but it's not very expensive (probably about $15).

 

There is also a free method available, using A2Uploader and SEUS (SE Updater Service) - search for those keywords in order to find threads re: that possibility.

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

     - Doug Larson

Think carefully before debranding - there are a couple of things you will lose that may be important to you: 1) the ability to use IM and have it billed as SMS usage 2) access to at&t purchased content at the MediaMall, Cingular Video, etc.  (Most of these things or similar are available elsewhere, however - many times free or less expensive).  Also if you aren't technically competent, you can brick your phone - and you likely void your warranty.

 

If you don't consider yourself to be technically competent, yet you want to move forward with debranding - take a look at DaVinci Team.  It is an on-line paid service - but it's not very expensive (probably about $15).

 

There is also a free method available, using A2Uploader and SEUS (SE Updater Service) - search for those keywords in order to find threads re: that possibility.

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There must be a happy medium somewhere between being totally informed and blissfully unaware.

     - Doug Larson

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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yes, i am aware of the possible cons, but i feel the pros are far worth it. 

 

i have found a simple writeup for debranding the w760 and it is here:   Debrand your 760- easy Steps

 

i hope this helps some one else.  i have to get the usb cable cause att doesnt include ANYTHING. 

yes, i am aware of the possible cons, but i feel the pros are far worth it. 

 

i have found a simple writeup for debranding the w760 and it is here:   Debrand your 760- easy Steps

 

i hope this helps some one else.  i have to get the usb cable cause att doesnt include ANYTHING. 

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Not sure why one would want IM billed as SMS.  Use eBuddy and it goes as data.  Put on branded or debranded phone.

 

Oz "Mobile Email" product goes away with a de-brand.  From trying it today on a 2600 Nokia, I say good riddance.   You get S/E mail tool with the de-brand, and it beats all other email products that I have seen and used, even gmail java applet.  Add the $15 data package and let there be no surprises.  These mid range S/E phones are excellent, particularly de-branded. 

Not sure why one would want IM billed as SMS.  Use eBuddy and it goes as data.  Put on branded or debranded phone.

 

Oz "Mobile Email" product goes away with a de-brand.  From trying it today on a 2600 Nokia, I say good riddance.   You get S/E mail tool with the de-brand, and it beats all other email products that I have seen and used, even gmail java applet.  Add the $15 data package and let there be no surprises.  These mid range S/E phones are excellent, particularly de-branded. 

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