09-19-2012 11:57 AM
I've heard talk about how ATT is "working on their network coverage" and plans to provide 3G service in Northeast MI "in the coming months". Well, now that another 2 year contract has expired, I'm seriously wondering if I would be better off jumping to Verizon. The EDGE data network up here if virtually useless. 5 full bars, yet extremely poor data transfer.
Can anyone provide an HONEST answer as to when this coverage is planned to be upgraded??? Verizon has had 3G for quite a long while up here...
07-15-2013 7:20 PM - edited 07-15-2013 7:27 PM
Wow. I'm sure it will be soon and hopefully they will fill the gap between there and Gaylord. There were comments made about the coverage being shown on the map before they active the towers on Howard Forums.
07-16-2013 5:57 AM - edited 07-16-2013 6:08 AM
Well, it's July 16 and NO 4G!!!! I might as well forget calling into customer service. They have given me two dates that have come and gone. I just wish Verizon would get a tower around here so I could switch. The people here in Pickford, Michigan are really upset with AT&T. I don't think they care at all about us here in the Upper Peninsula.
Sadly, there is no one to turn to. The cell service sucks here, the interenet speeds suck, and to get someone to talk to who cares is impossble.
And how can AT&T display blatently false advertising on their website claiming there is 4G in our area when there is not? Here is the latest data coverage map of our area, and I can tell you that there is no 4G in 80% of this area where they claim it exists. I am frustrated.
07-16-2013 6:53 PM - edited 07-17-2013 8:22 AM
Oh ok cool. Thats good to know. Now I know what to look for in my area. There were lots of rolls of it and crews were working on it. So hopefully that means thwere will be 3G/4G all the way up to the bridge soon.
I'm not sure. I do know that but as we got closer to the bridge I did have E even though I saw towers right off I-75 that clearly had 3G/4G antennas on them.
I have another question. On M-35 between Perkins and Gwin there is only E data service. Now will they still have to lay fiber down to upgrade the McFarland tower if Charter internet runs along the highway?
07-17-2013 9:55 AM - edited 07-17-2013 6:46 PM
Interesting question. If Charter has a fiber cable on the poles along the road near the tower I would say yes. If AT&T is willing to pay Charter for the use of it, but then again if there are other AT&T towers on the same loop that need to be backhauled, they might wait to lay new fiber. They have been very lax in regards to upgrading northern MI but when Verizon opted to skip upgrading their network to EVDO Rev. B and jump right to LTE, AT&T really got caught. IMHO, AT&T should have worked out a roaming partnership with T-Mo instead of trying to buy them. That would have given both carriers virtually the same LTE and AWS footprint (spectrum wise) as Verizon.
EDIT: Well I called AT&T this evening and was on the phone for a good 45 minutes and got to talk to Tier 1& 2 support. It was confirmed from both people I talked to that indeed there is no 3G or HSPA"4G" coverage in Pickford, or from the tower south of Pickford and there was no timeframe given on their computer either as to when the tower will get upgraded service.
I also asked Tier 2 to check and see when the areas around Gaylord will be getting expanded 3G/4G. This person told me AT&T's system indicated that several towers including Grayling, Frederick, Johannesburg, Lewiston, Atlanta, Hillman, Mio, and other areas are slated to get 3G service by the end of this month. Basically there will be coverage from Petoskey all across to Alpena along M-32. Also, both confirmed that their entire network is supposed to be upgraded to at least 3G by years end. Now, along with no info on the tower in Pickford, there was no timeframe given on the tower in Lovells either.So that is a very tall order in which we will have to wait and see.
07-18-2013 4:24 AM - edited 07-18-2013 4:27 AM
Just a quick note. Verizon's new coverage map is out and it looks like the entire lower peninsula is lit up with LTE. Also, De Tour Village and the western part of Drummond Island are lit up as well.
07-18-2013 6:36 AM
I've heard from several people from Detour that Verizon has really good coverage there. The minute Big Red lights up here, I'm bolting to Verizon. Can't figure out why Verizon has no coverage around Pickford. But I was talking to a Verizon person a few weeks ago, and he indicated that they were trying to get access to an existing tower two miles straight east of the ATT tower. If that happens, then everyone around here will be switching to Verizon.
I'm curious when you were talking to the ATT people, if they said anything as to why their coverage map shows 4G here when they admit that it doesn't exist.
07-18-2013 10:10 AM
07-21-2013 9:56 AM
Confirmed that Verizon has 4G LTE in Detour Village and Drummond Island. And I hear that they will be putting up some more towers here in the Eastern UP. ATT is still on Edge.
07-21-2013 6:13 PM
07-22-2013 5:33 AM
Is there an actual tower in Pickford? To me it looks like the tower is south of Pickford and has no indication of 4g. It looks like the "4g"on the map is fall out from the tower in Rudyard, which the map for some reason "predicts". It must be because of the East wind the day they mapped it
07-22-2013 2:04 PM - edited 07-22-2013 2:10 PM
AT&T is SO SAD. They can't even get 4G HSPA+ in Northern MI while EVERY OTHER PROVIDER in the world at least provides HSPA+21 or even 42 dual carrier (ala T-Mobile). I believe their HSPA+ is 14.4 at most in some areas. I haven't been up north lately though but AT&T has superior Canadian and global roaming coverage.
BTW when you are near the border make sure your phone doesn't automatically roam onto a Canadian Rogers or Tbaytel or Bell Canada signal (they have full HSPA+21).
http://www.rogers.com/business/on/en/smallbusiness/rogers/coverage/ (also shows Tbaytel coverage)
Too bad VZW is CDMA2000 but at least they are moving at lightning speed to move to GSM ala LTE! (I have them right now and getting a global phone soon with CDMA & GSM which fixes my problem as I want the ability to use prepaid SIM cards when I travel abroad from Detroit/Ann Arbor).
AT&T is TRULY an embarrasement to the rest of MI. ;(