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What happened to Classical Masterpieces?

A couple days ago I discovered that the Music Choice channels had been renumbered.  No problem, I thought, I'll just unhide whatever channel Classical Masterpieces is now on.  Wrong!  It's nowhere to be found, either in the channel list or the MC app, though it's still available on musicchoice.com.  Why would AT&T carry only 46 of the 50 MC channels?

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A couple days ago I discovered that the Music Choice channels had been renumbered.  No problem, I thought, I'll just unhide whatever channel Classical Masterpieces is now on.  Wrong!  It's nowhere to be found, either in the channel list or the MC app, though it's still available on musicchoice.com.  Why would AT&T carry only 46 of the 50 MC channels?

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oobleck wrote:

A couple days ago I discovered that the Music Choice channels had been renumbered.  No problem, I thought, I'll just unhide whatever channel Classical Masterpieces is now on.  Wrong!  It's nowhere to be found, either in the channel list or the MC app, though it's still available on musicchoice.com.  Why would AT&T carry only 46 of the 50 MC channels?

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The information was in the October, 2013 Carriage Agreements posted by Texasguy.

 

http://forums.att.com/t5/Features-and-How-To/October-Carriage-Agreements/m-p/3689587/highlight/true#...

 

Effective December 10, MC Retro Rock (channel 5113) will be renamed Rock Hits, MC True Country (channel 5130) will be renamed Country Hits, and MC University (channel 5103) will be renamed Dance/EDM.

 

In addition on December 10, MC Classic Alternative (channel 5117), MC Romances (channel 5146), MC Classical Masterpieces (channel 5140), and MC Stage & Screen (channel 5126) will be removed from the U-verse channel line-up.

 

Effective December 31, SOAPnet (channel 365) will no longer be available.

 

 

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A couple days ago I discovered that the Music Choice channels had been renumbered.  No problem, I thought, I'll just unhide whatever channel Classical Masterpieces is now on.  Wrong!  It's nowhere to be found, either in the channel list or the MC app, though it's still available on musicchoice.com.  Why would AT&T carry only 46 of the 50 MC channels?

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The information was in the October, 2013 Carriage Agreements posted by Texasguy.

 

http://forums.att.com/t5/Features-and-How-To/October-Carriage-Agreements/m-p/3689587/highlight/true#M107271

 

Effective December 10, MC Retro Rock (channel 5113) will be renamed Rock Hits, MC True Country (channel 5130) will be renamed Country Hits, and MC University (channel 5103) will be renamed Dance/EDM.

 

In addition on December 10, MC Classic Alternative (channel 5117), MC Romances (channel 5146), MC Classical Masterpieces (channel 5140), and MC Stage & Screen (channel 5126) will be removed from the U-verse channel line-up.

 

Effective December 31, SOAPnet (channel 365) will no longer be available.

 

 

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AT&T must have just decided on a whim not to let its subscribers have those 4 channels.
AT&T must have just decided on a whim not to let its subscribers have those 4 channels.

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AT&T must have just decided on a whim not to let its subscribers have those 4 channels.

I doubt that AT&T makes any business decisions on a whim. You are wrong again.

 


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AT&T must have just decided on a whim not to let its subscribers have those 4 channels.

I doubt that AT&T makes any business decisions on a whim. You are wrong again.

 


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AT&T must have just decided on a whim not to let its subscribers have those 4 channels.

Or Music Choice is phasing those 4 channels out.

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AT&T must have just decided on a whim not to let its subscribers have those 4 channels.

Or Music Choice is phasing those 4 channels out.

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Anyone have info? I saw a newsday article suggesting their lineup expanded and nothing was dropped.
Anyone have info? I saw a newsday article suggesting their lineup expanded and nothing was dropped.
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I know I was wrong. I wasn't trying to be right. I just get frustrated sometimes when channels disappear. I know they didn't do anything on a whim. I just use the forum has a harmless way of blowing off steam. They probably are just phasing those channels out as Was suggested. But I happen to like classic alternative music, so it is a bit of a bummer.
I know I was wrong. I wasn't trying to be right. I just get frustrated sometimes when channels disappear. I know they didn't do anything on a whim. I just use the forum has a harmless way of blowing off steam. They probably are just phasing those channels out as Was suggested. But I happen to like classic alternative music, so it is a bit of a bummer.

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Edited by Phil-101 on Dec 27, 2013 at 12:58:20 PM

codycooper864 wrote:
I know I was wrong. I wasn't trying to be right. I just get frustrated sometimes when channels disappear. I know they didn't do anything on a whim. I just use the forum has a harmless way of blowing off steam. They probably are just phasing those channels out as Was suggested. But I happen to like classic alternative music, so it is a bit of a bummer.

The purpose of this forum is not for blowing off steam. The purpose of this forum is to inform fellow subscribers of news concerning U-Verse as well as helping and informing subscribers who are having problems with aspects of U-Verse.

 

You seem get frustrated if there is just a possiblity or rumor of a channel disappearing. Most of the time, that does not happen. There are many other ways to listen to classical music including listening to radio stations that have it as a format, hooking up your computer to an amplifier and listening to something like Pandora, or just playing classical music CD's.

 

The loss of one classical music channel on U-Verse is not going to prevent you from listening to classical music.

 

There are better ways of blowing off steam than venting for no reason on this forum.

 

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I know I was wrong. I wasn't trying to be right. I just get frustrated sometimes when channels disappear. I know they didn't do anything on a whim. I just use the forum has a harmless way of blowing off steam. They probably are just phasing those channels out as Was suggested. But I happen to like classic alternative music, so it is a bit of a bummer.

The purpose of this forum is not for blowing off steam. The purpose of this forum is to inform fellow subscribers of news concerning U-Verse as well as helping and informing subscribers who are having problems with aspects of U-Verse.

 

You seem get frustrated if there is just a possiblity or rumor of a channel disappearing. Most of the time, that does not happen. There are many other ways to listen to classical music including listening to radio stations that have it as a format, hooking up your computer to an amplifier and listening to something like Pandora, or just playing classical music CD's.

 

The loss of one classical music channel on U-Verse is not going to prevent you from listening to classical music.

 

There are better ways of blowing off steam than venting for no reason on this forum.

 

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I feel you dwinth. But I just have one question. When a channel is lost, why does AT&T feel as though it's subscribers are not privy to a full explanation of exactly what went wrong to cause its removal instead of just the canned generic "we could not reach a fair deal". Just to satisfy my curiosity, I would lije to know specifics. Why would me having that information be dangerous in any way? It's not like I'd do anything with it.
I feel you dwinth. But I just have one question. When a channel is lost, why does AT&T feel as though it's subscribers are not privy to a full explanation of exactly what went wrong to cause its removal instead of just the canned generic "we could not reach a fair deal". Just to satisfy my curiosity, I would lije to know specifics. Why would me having that information be dangerous in any way? It's not like I'd do anything with it.

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Edited by Phil-101 on Dec 27, 2013 at 1:00:14 PM

codycooper864 wrote:
I feel you dwinth. But I just have one question. When a channel is lost, why does AT&T feel as though it's subscribers are not privy to a full explanation of exactly what went wrong to cause its removal instead of just the canned generic "we could not reach a fair deal". Just to satisfy my curiosity, I would lije to know specifics. Why would me having that information be dangerous in any way? It's not like I'd do anything with it.

 

Why should AT&T or any other business have to publicly give their reasons for any business decisions they make? That is totally ludicrous. If the business wants to make the reasons for their decisions public, that is their business, but they should not have to because poor Codycooper feels left out of the decision loop.

 

The only channel losses that I can think of concerning U-Verse are the Hallmark channels, the NHL Network, TVG Network, and the four Music Choice channels, none of which is going to cause me to vent in a public forum.

 

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I feel you dwinth. But I just have one question. When a channel is lost, why does AT&T feel as though it's subscribers are not privy to a full explanation of exactly what went wrong to cause its removal instead of just the canned generic "we could not reach a fair deal". Just to satisfy my curiosity, I would lije to know specifics. Why would me having that information be dangerous in any way? It's not like I'd do anything with it.

 

Why should AT&T or any other business have to publicly give their reasons for any business decisions they make? That is totally ludicrous. If the business wants to make the reasons for their decisions public, that is their business, but they should not have to because poor Codycooper feels left out of the decision loop.

 

The only channel losses that I can think of concerning U-Verse are the Hallmark channels, the NHL Network, TVG Network, and the four Music Choice channels, none of which is going to cause me to vent in a public forum.

 

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Or Music Choice is phasing those 4 channels out.

Probably not.  Classical Masterpieces, at least, is listed on MC's website as part of their *new* 50-channel lineup, debuting Dec. 10.

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Or Music Choice is phasing those 4 channels out.

Probably not.  Classical Masterpieces, at least, is listed on MC's website as part of their *new* 50-channel lineup, debuting Dec. 10.

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In addition on December 10, MC Classic Alternative (channel 5117), MC Romances (channel 5146), MC Classical Masterpieces (channel 5140), and MC Stage & Screen (channel 5126) will be removed from the U-verse channel line-up.

 



Thanks for the info, dwinth.  I wonder how they decided which four channels to drop.  Presumably they can keep track of how many people watch (or listen to) each channel.  Or is a Ouija board involved?

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dwinth wrote:
In addition on December 10, MC Classic Alternative (channel 5117), MC Romances (channel 5146), MC Classical Masterpieces (channel 5140), and MC Stage & Screen (channel 5126) will be removed from the U-verse channel line-up.

 



Thanks for the info, dwinth.  I wonder how they decided which four channels to drop.  Presumably they can keep track of how many people watch (or listen to) each channel.  Or is a Ouija board involved?

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oobleck wrote:

dwinth wrote:
In addition on December 10, MC Classic Alternative (channel 5117), MC Romances (channel 5146), MC Classical Masterpieces (channel 5140), and MC Stage & Screen (channel 5126) will be removed from the U-verse channel line-up.

 



Thanks for the info, dwinth.  I wonder how they decided which four channels to drop.  Presumably they can keep track of how many people watch (or listen to) each channel.  Or is a Ouija board involved?

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I have never taken advantage of Music Choice or it's predecessor, but I still hate to see any music channels dropped. I enjoy classical music at times, but I prefer listening to my own CD's.  I have never been able to get into using a television music channel for my enjoyment. I should check out the remaining channels.

 


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dwinth wrote:
In addition on December 10, MC Classic Alternative (channel 5117), MC Romances (channel 5146), MC Classical Masterpieces (channel 5140), and MC Stage & Screen (channel 5126) will be removed from the U-verse channel line-up.

 



Thanks for the info, dwinth.  I wonder how they decided which four channels to drop.  Presumably they can keep track of how many people watch (or listen to) each channel.  Or is a Ouija board involved?

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I have never taken advantage of Music Choice or it's predecessor, but I still hate to see any music channels dropped. I enjoy classical music at times, but I prefer listening to my own CD's.  I have never been able to get into using a television music channel for my enjoyment. I should check out the remaining channels.

 


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I have Music Choice through another provider, and Classical Masterpieces is the only one of the listed channels I could find. I know we used to have Stage and Screen, because that was one of my favorites.
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Edited by JefferMC on Dec 14, 2013 at 6:19:57 AM

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 

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JefferMC wrote:

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 


I hope certain posters read your post, and the moderators can finally close the thread.

 


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JefferMC wrote:

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 


I hope certain posters read your post, and the moderators can finally close the thread.

 


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Edited by dhascall on Dec 14, 2013 at 8:52:41 AM

JefferMC wrote:

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 


Jeffer and dwinth - I hope that we're not getting into who's fault it is because that can be played both ways.

 

Is it Music Choice's fault that AT&T only bought or made room for 46 channels, instead of 50, 52 or however many?  There were once 48 Urge channels.

 

Is it Music Choice's fault that U-Verse now carries say, "Pop Country" instead of "Classical Masterpieces?"  If you ask me, any "country" music made after 2000 is "pop" style music, yecch!    I doubt that MC foced AT&T into that.  

 

So I'm not sure if a document that says MC has over 50 music channels when AT&T only has 46 slots is a true "solution" to the OP's concern.  Wikipedia has a great timeline of MC past channels.

 

 

 

 

 


JefferMC wrote:

Here's a link to some semi-technical documentation that Music Choice has provided to its affiliates:

 

http://corporate.musicchoice.com/affiliates/channel-lineup-change-2013/

 

From glimpsing through them, my take away is that Music Choice has added some additional channels meaning there are more than the original 50 channels.  However, apparently providers subscribe to a number of channels package (e.g. 50) and now that there are more than 50, if the provider wishs to provide their subscribers with those extras, the provider would have to change their MC subscription.  If the provider doesn't, then some of the old channels (like Classical Masterpieces) have been replaced by others in the "first 50" and are no longer available to the provider's subscribers.


So, Music Choice changed things.  And it's all AT&T's fault.

 


Jeffer and dwinth - I hope that we're not getting into who's fault it is because that can be played both ways.

 

Is it Music Choice's fault that AT&T only bought or made room for 46 channels, instead of 50, 52 or however many?  There were once 48 Urge channels.

 

Is it Music Choice's fault that U-Verse now carries say, "Pop Country" instead of "Classical Masterpieces?"  If you ask me, any "country" music made after 2000 is "pop" style music, yecch!    I doubt that MC foced AT&T into that.  

 

So I'm not sure if a document that says MC has over 50 music channels when AT&T only has 46 slots is a true "solution" to the OP's concern.  Wikipedia has a great timeline of MC past channels.

 

 

 

 

 

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dhascall, did you look at the documents I linked?

 

dhascall, did you look at the documents I linked?

 

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Edited by dhascall on Dec 14, 2013 at 1:28:17 PM

JefferMC wrote:

dhascall, did you look at the documents I linked?

 


I did.  I read this with particular attention:

 

  1. If the Music Choice digital audio feed is passed directly on to the cable plant i.e. no multiplexing or grooming of the signal, then the only action required is the addition of the four channels with updated MPEGs and Source IDs on the channel map in the controller.

Nowhere in there did it state that you would have to pay extra for these feeds.  I am sure, of course, that AT&T paid for 46 channels but MC has had 50, so they haven't always carried everything.  I also looked at another doc, in that schema that said that Tejano, Instrumentals and some Italian channel, were the new overflows.  So, I'm a bit confused.

 

From the carriage agreement that TG posted a few months back, it seems that AT&T had at least some say in the matter.  Some of the blame must fall with AT&T, maybe they could have negotiated to carry the extras, maybe said I do not want this channel or that.  Now of course, MC may be "maximiz(ing) and extend(ing) our brand and programming strategy" by moving some less important channels (to them) and dissing on Classical Masterpieces.  I know payola rukles only apply to DJ's, individual radio stations and so on but they do not apply to corporate broadcasters, so MC may be looking for a cash cow but it's not 100% MC's fault, IMHO.


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dhascall, did you look at the documents I linked?

 


I did.  I read this with particular attention:

 

  1. If the Music Choice digital audio feed is passed directly on to the cable plant i.e. no multiplexing or grooming of the signal, then the only action required is the addition of the four channels with updated MPEGs and Source IDs on the channel map in the controller.

Nowhere in there did it state that you would have to pay extra for these feeds.  I am sure, of course, that AT&T paid for 46 channels but MC has had 50, so they haven't always carried everything.  I also looked at another doc, in that schema that said that Tejano, Instrumentals and some Italian channel, were the new overflows.  So, I'm a bit confused.

 

From the carriage agreement that TG posted a few months back, it seems that AT&T had at least some say in the matter.  Some of the blame must fall with AT&T, maybe they could have negotiated to carry the extras, maybe said I do not want this channel or that.  Now of course, MC may be "maximiz(ing) and extend(ing) our brand and programming strategy" by moving some less important channels (to them) and dissing on Classical Masterpieces.  I know payola rukles only apply to DJ's, individual radio stations and so on but they do not apply to corporate broadcasters, so MC may be looking for a cash cow but it's not 100% MC's fault, IMHO.

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What I got out of the channel list (showing old and new allocations) is that MC had taken the Classical channel out of its normal place and moved it to an overflow area.  

What I got out of the channel list (showing old and new allocations) is that MC had taken the Classical channel out of its normal place and moved it to an overflow area.  

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I got that too but AT&T still has 3 of the 4.  Ok it is indeed MC's fault that this occured (maybe other channels do make MC more money) but then it's up to AT&T and MC tro see how to handle it.

 

Brighthouse in our area added those four to the end:

 

1996Music Choice: Singers & Swing
1997Music Choice: Easy Listening
1998Music Choice: Classical Masterpieces
1999Music Choice: Light Classical

 

U-Verse still has three of the four, so, if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that it was more than likely AT&T's call to keep those three and shelve "Masterpieces."

I got that too but AT&T still has 3 of the 4.  Ok it is indeed MC's fault that this occured (maybe other channels do make MC more money) but then it's up to AT&T and MC tro see how to handle it.

 

Brighthouse in our area added those four to the end:

 

1996Music Choice: Singers & Swing
1997Music Choice: Easy Listening
1998Music Choice: Classical Masterpieces
1999Music Choice: Light Classical

 

U-Verse still has three of the four, so, if I were to hazard a guess, I'd say that it was more than likely AT&T's call to keep those three and shelve "Masterpieces."

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dwinth wrote:
I have never taken advantage of Music Choice or it's predecessor, but I still hate to see any music channels dropped. I enjoy classical music at times, but I prefer listening to my own CD's.  I have never been able to get into using a television music channel for my enjoyment. I should check out the remaining channels.

Classical Masterpieces is nice because it runs stuff I've never heard before.  The light classical channel is OK for background music, especially if you go for baroque, but it doesn't play longer works and most of what it plays I've heard a million times.

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dwinth wrote:
I have never taken advantage of Music Choice or it's predecessor, but I still hate to see any music channels dropped. I enjoy classical music at times, but I prefer listening to my own CD's.  I have never been able to get into using a television music channel for my enjoyment. I should check out the remaining channels.

Classical Masterpieces is nice because it runs stuff I've never heard before.  The light classical channel is OK for background music, especially if you go for baroque, but it doesn't play longer works and most of what it plays I've heard a million times.

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  I also looked at another doc, in that schema that said that Tejano, Instrumentals and some Italian channel, were the new overflows.  So, I'm a bit confused.

Me too.  MC's list (thanks for the link, JefferMC) shows Singers & Swing, Easy Listening, Classical Masterpieces, and Light Classical as being in the new 47 through 50 range.  Of the 4 channels in that range, CM is the only one AT&T doesn't have.  AT&T also doesn't have Love Songs (20), Romances (40), and Stage & Screen (42), so we'll probably be hearing from fans of those.

 

It really doesn't matter whose "fault" it is, I just don't want to lose my favorite MC channel.

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dhascall wrote:
  I also looked at another doc, in that schema that said that Tejano, Instrumentals and some Italian channel, were the new overflows.  So, I'm a bit confused.

Me too.  MC's list (thanks for the link, JefferMC) shows Singers & Swing, Easy Listening, Classical Masterpieces, and Light Classical as being in the new 47 through 50 range.  Of the 4 channels in that range, CM is the only one AT&T doesn't have.  AT&T also doesn't have Love Songs (20), Romances (40), and Stage & Screen (42), so we'll probably be hearing from fans of those.

 

It really doesn't matter whose "fault" it is, I just don't want to lose my favorite MC channel.

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Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.

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io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


So you watch an audio channel the most out of every channel on your service? Might I suggest that you lower your package or subscribe to XM radio instead.

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io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


So you watch an audio channel the most out of every channel on your service? Might I suggest that you lower your package or subscribe to XM radio instead.

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io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


I will never understand people like this poster who want to leave U-Verse because of a music channel not being there anymore. Maybe I am weird, but I subscribed to U-Verse primarily for it's television channels and secondarily for the internet.

 

According to the opinion of this poster named io, U-Verse must think that we are all straight out of Deliverance. In fact, I was talking to someone at a Christmas dinner last night who remarked that the chairman of the board of AT&T. "got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?"

 

Again, I do not believe that this poster is an actual U-Verse subscriber. Quiting U-Verse because of one music channel when there are plenty of other methods of listening to classical music? Please!! Give me a break.

 


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io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


I will never understand people like this poster who want to leave U-Verse because of a music channel not being there anymore. Maybe I am weird, but I subscribed to U-Verse primarily for it's television channels and secondarily for the internet.

 

According to the opinion of this poster named io, U-Verse must think that we are all straight out of Deliverance. In fact, I was talking to someone at a Christmas dinner last night who remarked that the chairman of the board of AT&T. "got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?"

 

Again, I do not believe that this poster is an actual U-Verse subscriber. Quiting U-Verse because of one music channel when there are plenty of other methods of listening to classical music? Please!! Give me a break.

 


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dwinth wrote:

io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


I will never understand people like this poster who want to leave U-Verse because of a music channel not being there anymore. Maybe I am weird, but I subscribed to U-Verse primarily for it's television channels and secondarily for the internet.

 

According to the opinion of this poster named io, U-Verse must think that we are all straight out of Deliverance. In fact, I was talking to someone at a Christmas dinner last night who remarked that the chairman of the board of AT&T. "got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?"

 

Again, I do not believe that this poster is an actual U-Verse subscriber. Quiting U-Verse because of one music channel when there are plenty of other methods of listening to classical music? Please!! Give me a break.

 


Owning a computer and not having the internet is like buying a refrigerator and not stocking it with food.


I am with you. I could care less whether or not my TV had any music channels.  If I want to listen to music I have a radio, an MP3 player as well as I HeartRadio on my phone and PC.

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dwinth wrote:

io wrote:

Comcast still carries Classical Masterpieces.  I learned that at Christmas dinner last night at a friend's who has Comcast service.  It would appear that AT&T figures its Uverse subscribers are of the low-brow sort.  Comcast must have higher class clientele.  

 

I listened to MC CM more than any other of my 200 channels because of its remarkably good classical programming.  Time to think about switching to a provider that has a higher opinion of its customers.


I will never understand people like this poster who want to leave U-Verse because of a music channel not being there anymore. Maybe I am weird, but I subscribed to U-Verse primarily for it's television channels and secondarily for the internet.

 

According to the opinion of this poster named io, U-Verse must think that we are all straight out of Deliverance. In fact, I was talking to someone at a Christmas dinner last night who remarked that the chairman of the board of AT&T. "got a real pretty mouth, ain't he?"

 

Again, I do not believe that this poster is an actual U-Verse subscriber. Quiting U-Verse because of one music channel when there are plenty of other methods of listening to classical music? Please!! Give me a break.

 


Owning a computer and not having the internet is like buying a refrigerator and not stocking it with food.


I am with you. I could care less whether or not my TV had any music channels.  If I want to listen to music I have a radio, an MP3 player as well as I HeartRadio on my phone and PC.

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I, too, would like to have Classical Masterpieces restored rather than the dozens of "popular" Music Choice channels targeting the 18-34 demographic.

 

The snarky attitude of the so-called gurus on this board is a disgrace.

 

Isn't your objective to be helpful? Then be helpful rather than insulting us.

 

 

I, too, would like to have Classical Masterpieces restored rather than the dozens of "popular" Music Choice channels targeting the 18-34 demographic.

 

The snarky attitude of the so-called gurus on this board is a disgrace.

 

Isn't your objective to be helpful? Then be helpful rather than insulting us.

 

 

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pduggan1 wrote:

 

The snarky attitude of the so-called gurus on this board is a disgrace.

 

Isn't your objective to be helpful? Then be helpful rather than insulting us.

 

 


I second that.  Contrary to widespread belief, just putting up a post should not be viewed as an invitation to snarky attacks.  They may justify it all they want, but in the end, they're wrong.


pduggan1 wrote:

 

The snarky attitude of the so-called gurus on this board is a disgrace.

 

Isn't your objective to be helpful? Then be helpful rather than insulting us.

 

 


I second that.  Contrary to widespread belief, just putting up a post should not be viewed as an invitation to snarky attacks.  They may justify it all they want, but in the end, they're wrong.

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my previous provider had music choice.....then 6 months ago switched to galaxie....talk about sucky music.....so when uverse was available in my area...i jumped on it......

my previous provider had music choice.....then 6 months ago switched to galaxie....talk about sucky music.....so when uverse was available in my area...i jumped on it......

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