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Longhorn Network - Just say 'No'

I greatly appreciate the value provided by AT&T in bundling tv/wireless/internet services.  Similarly, the bundling of channels allows customers to access a variety of programming at substantial savings.

 

However, occasionally, programming comes along that is so expensive and directed at such a narrow, niche market that it deserves to be left off of the programming options or ordered solely as an 'a la carte' option.  If the reports about the price tag  to cable providers  to offer the 'longhorn network' (by ESPN) are accurate, the only way it could be added to current bundled programming packages is at substantial cost to MANY people who have no interest in the programming. 

 

Please AT&T, keep prices low, by either not offering or charging ONLY those who desire this programming option.

 

Thanks!

I greatly appreciate the value provided by AT&T in bundling tv/wireless/internet services.  Similarly, the bundling of channels allows customers to access a variety of programming at substantial savings.

 

However, occasionally, programming comes along that is so expensive and directed at such a narrow, niche market that it deserves to be left off of the programming options or ordered solely as an 'a la carte' option.  If the reports about the price tag  to cable providers  to offer the 'longhorn network' (by ESPN) are accurate, the only way it could be added to current bundled programming packages is at substantial cost to MANY people who have no interest in the programming. 

 

Please AT&T, keep prices low, by either not offering or charging ONLY those who desire this programming option.

 

Thanks!

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Glad someone is saying it, I also don't wish to subsidize the Longhorn Athletic Department through some kind of forced addition to my existing cable package.

 

If someone wants to add the channel as a separate charge then they are welcome to do so but please allow me to say no while continuing to be a satisfied subscriber of your service. 

Glad someone is saying it, I also don't wish to subsidize the Longhorn Athletic Department through some kind of forced addition to my existing cable package.

 

If someone wants to add the channel as a separate charge then they are welcome to do so but please allow me to say no while continuing to be a satisfied subscriber of your service. 

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From the article found in the link below:

 

Industry sources say that ESPN, which is selling the channel to cable operators, wants 40 cents per subscriber per month for placement on expanded basic cable tiers in Texas and various markets in three adjoining states: Louisiana, New Mexico and Oklahoma.


At 40 cents, Longhorn Network instantly would become one of the 30 or 40 highest priced cable channels. But the price is relatively low compared with regional sports networks, which frequently command more than $2. A similar channel, Big Ten Network, charged in-market distributors 70 cents for the right to carry its channel when it launched four years ago.

 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/06/27/Media/Longhorn-Network.aspx

From the article found in the link below:

 

Industry sources say that ESPN, which is selling the channel to cable operators, wants 40 cents per subscriber per month for placement on expanded basic cable tiers in Texas and various markets in three adjoining states: Louisiana, New Mexico and Oklahoma.


At 40 cents, Longhorn Network instantly would become one of the 30 or 40 highest priced cable channels. But the price is relatively low compared with regional sports networks, which frequently command more than $2. A similar channel, Big Ten Network, charged in-market distributors 70 cents for the right to carry its channel when it launched four years ago.

 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/06/27/Media/Longhorn-Network.aspx

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Big 10 network carries the games of an entire conference, so its really absurd to compare the prices. Maybe if you divide the $0.70 the Big 10 network was charging by the number of teams that were available at that time (11) you get less than 7 cents per school.

 

So at 40 cents you are paying over 500% more per school to watch the longhorn network. NO THANK YOU!

Big 10 network carries the games of an entire conference, so its really absurd to compare the prices. Maybe if you divide the $0.70 the Big 10 network was charging by the number of teams that were available at that time (11) you get less than 7 cents per school.

 

So at 40 cents you are paying over 500% more per school to watch the longhorn network. NO THANK YOU!

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Thanks for posting and I agree 100%.

Thanks for posting and I agree 100%.

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I am an AT&T U-Verse customer in the Houston market and I agree with the sentiment that any subscription to the Longhorn Network should be voluntary and not bundled into already existing packages. Given that this network is targeted at a single community the network should only be offered to those who want it and not forced upon those who do not.
I am an AT&T U-Verse customer in the Houston market and I agree with the sentiment that any subscription to the Longhorn Network should be voluntary and not bundled into already existing packages. Given that this network is targeted at a single community the network should only be offered to those who want it and not forced upon those who do not.

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vaughanjm wrote:
I am an AT&T U-Verse customer in the Houston market and I agree with the sentiment that any subscription to the Longhorn Network should be voluntary and not bundled into already existing packages. Given that this network is targeted at a single community the network should only be offered to those who want it and not forced upon those who do not.

I suppose one could use that argument about most of the channels in the U-verse lineup.


vaughanjm wrote:
I am an AT&T U-Verse customer in the Houston market and I agree with the sentiment that any subscription to the Longhorn Network should be voluntary and not bundled into already existing packages. Given that this network is targeted at a single community the network should only be offered to those who want it and not forced upon those who do not.

I suppose one could use that argument about most of the channels in the U-verse lineup.

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I agree.  Why not make it a pay-for channel like ESPN Gameplan or something?  That way those who want to watch it can pay for it, and the rest of us don't have to fund the channel's existence.

I agree.  Why not make it a pay-for channel like ESPN Gameplan or something?  That way those who want to watch it can pay for it, and the rest of us don't have to fund the channel's existence.

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Wow.  A parade of one time posters!  I detect a campaign!

 

http://www.facebook.com/college.sports.against.lhn

Wow.  A parade of one time posters!  I detect a campaign!

 

http://www.facebook.com/college.sports.against.lhn

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I thought it was just Aggies?

 

I would guess this would be an optional addition.

I thought it was just Aggies?

 

I would guess this would be an optional addition.

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Thank you very much for this post.  Not only a "No" but "HeII No!".  If I am forced to pay one penny for a channel that I don't want like the LHN, I'd be forced to look elsewhere for TV, Internet and Cell phone service.  Thanks again OP!

 

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Thank you very much for this post.  Not only a "No" but "HeII No!".  If I am forced to pay one penny for a channel that I don't want like the LHN, I'd be forced to look elsewhere for TV, Internet and Cell phone service.  Thanks again OP!

 

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Definitely, a campaign!

Definitely, a campaign!

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spd2demun wrote:

 

I thought it was just Aggies?

 

I would guess this would be an optional addition.


Did you see the Facebook page in my message above.  Some of the comments on that page are very amusing.


spd2demun wrote:

 

I thought it was just Aggies?

 

I would guess this would be an optional addition.


Did you see the Facebook page in my message above.  Some of the comments on that page are very amusing.

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Just say no to the sip network
Just say no to the sip network

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Yes, I did.  And I think it's a bit early to get worked up.  But that's just me, the no-sports-person. Smiley Wink

 


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spd2demun wrote:

 

I thought it was just Aggies?

 

I would guess this would be an optional addition.


Did you see the Facebook page in my message above.  Some of the comments on that page are very amusing.




Yes, I did.  And I think it's a bit early to get worked up.  But that's just me, the no-sports-person. Smiley Wink

 


texasguy37 wrote:

spd2demun wrote:

 

I thought it was just Aggies?

 

I would guess this would be an optional addition.


Did you see the Facebook page in my message above.  Some of the comments on that page are very amusing.




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LOL!  Sports fans tend to be very emotional, and they do not always say or do things that are rational.

LOL!  Sports fans tend to be very emotional, and they do not always say or do things that are rational.

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But it looks like other providers are under attack.

 

I still see them putting this into an add-on pack/subscription.

But it looks like other providers are under attack.

 

I still see them putting this into an add-on pack/subscription.

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The supporters on that Facebook page don't want the network to exist in any form.

The supporters on that Facebook page don't want the network to exist in any form.

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Makes no sense, unless as I said, they're A&M'er's. Smiley Very Happy

 

I'd like for no sports to exist in any form, but as long as I'm not forced to watch or attend, I'd like for everyone to get what they want.

 

I would guess these same posts are on other providers' forums? Smiley Surprised

 

Guess mission has been accomplished...

Makes no sense, unless as I said, they're A&M'er's. Smiley Very Happy

 

I'd like for no sports to exist in any form, but as long as I'm not forced to watch or attend, I'd like for everyone to get what they want.

 

I would guess these same posts are on other providers' forums? Smiley Surprised

 

Guess mission has been accomplished...

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spd2demun wrote:

 

I would guess these same posts are on other providers' forums? Smiley Surprised

 

Guess mission has been accomplished...


Yeah.  When you read that Facebook page, you will see some of the strategies suggested.  Some have even stated that if their TV provider picks up the network, they will cancel their service.  I wonder what they will do when all providers are carrying the channel.


spd2demun wrote:

 

I would guess these same posts are on other providers' forums? Smiley Surprised

 

Guess mission has been accomplished...


Yeah.  When you read that Facebook page, you will see some of the strategies suggested.  Some have even stated that if their TV provider picks up the network, they will cancel their service.  I wonder what they will do when all providers are carrying the channel.

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Hulu?  You Tube?  Netflix?  Redbox?  Sports bar?

Hulu?  You Tube?  Netflix?  Redbox?  Sports bar?

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LOL.  As I said, sports fans tend to be very emotional and do not always say or do things that seem rational.

LOL.  As I said, sports fans tend to be very emotional and do not always say or do things that seem rational.

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Edited by spd2demun on Aug 9, 2011 at 8:07:51 PM

Another reason I don't partake. Smiley Very Happy

 

Looks like they're gone, and we're talking to ourselves.  Solved!

Another reason I don't partake. Smiley Very Happy

 

Looks like they're gone, and we're talking to ourselves.  Solved!

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Smiley Very Happy

Smiley Very Happy

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My guess? They'll eventually HAVE to offer it in Texas, especially in the Longhorn area, in order to remain competitive. I imagine this channel as a type of RSN...ok, not really, but kind of.

If it would be possible to offer it in u-200 in the area defined in the announcement, and Sports Pack or u-300 elsewhere, that's what I would ask them to do.

In order to be carried in as many houses as possible, I'd bet they do NOT go ala carte. And what if your favorite team is playing UT and Longhorn Network has exclusive rights??
My guess? They'll eventually HAVE to offer it in Texas, especially in the Longhorn area, in order to remain competitive. I imagine this channel as a type of RSN...ok, not really, but kind of.

If it would be possible to offer it in u-200 in the area defined in the announcement, and Sports Pack or u-300 elsewhere, that's what I would ask them to do.

In order to be carried in as many houses as possible, I'd bet they do NOT go ala carte. And what if your favorite team is playing UT and Longhorn Network has exclusive rights??

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Edited by siouxmoux on Aug 9, 2011 at 9:11:38 PM

Everyone should Just say No to Longhorn Network and The Dallas Cowboys!

Everyone should Just say No to Longhorn Network and The Dallas Cowboys!

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siouxmoux wrote:

Everyone should Just say No to Longhorn Network and The Dallas Cowboys!


I'll give you half a kudo and half a zerbert. NO to the big horned cows from down south, YES to the COWBOYS.

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway

siouxmoux wrote:

Everyone should Just say No to Longhorn Network and The Dallas Cowboys!


I'll give you half a kudo and half a zerbert. NO to the big horned cows from down south, YES to the COWBOYS.

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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texasguy37 wrote:

From the article found in the link below:

 

Industry sources say that ESPN, which is selling the channel to cable operators, wants 40 cents per subscriber per month for placement on expanded basic cable tiers in Texas and various markets in three adjoining states: Louisiana, New Mexico and Oklahoma.


At 40 cents, Longhorn Network instantly would become one of the 30 or 40 highest priced cable channels. But the price is relatively low compared with regional sports networks, which frequently command more than $2. A similar channel, Big Ten Network, charged in-market distributors 70 cents for the right to carry its channel when it launched four years ago.

 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/06/27/Media/Longhorn-Network.aspx


Like anyone in those 3 states would want to watch that ugly colored uniform team from south of Dallas.  Louisiana (LSU), New Mexico (Lobos), Oklahoma (Sooners and Cowboys and Golden Hurricane). Shoot, 1/2 of Texas wouldn't want to watch it because of the other teams in the state, (TAMU, TTU, TCU, SMU, Baylor, Houston, Rice, UNT.)

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway

texasguy37 wrote:

From the article found in the link below:

 

Industry sources say that ESPN, which is selling the channel to cable operators, wants 40 cents per subscriber per month for placement on expanded basic cable tiers in Texas and various markets in three adjoining states: Louisiana, New Mexico and Oklahoma.


At 40 cents, Longhorn Network instantly would become one of the 30 or 40 highest priced cable channels. But the price is relatively low compared with regional sports networks, which frequently command more than $2. A similar channel, Big Ten Network, charged in-market distributors 70 cents for the right to carry its channel when it launched four years ago.

 

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2011/06/27/Media/Longhorn-Network.aspx


Like anyone in those 3 states would want to watch that ugly colored uniform team from south of Dallas.  Louisiana (LSU), New Mexico (Lobos), Oklahoma (Sooners and Cowboys and Golden Hurricane). Shoot, 1/2 of Texas wouldn't want to watch it because of the other teams in the state, (TAMU, TTU, TCU, SMU, Baylor, Houston, Rice, UNT.)

” Auto racing, bull fighting, and mountain climbing are the only real sports … all others are games.”- Ernest Hemingway
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Don't add it to the U200 package as you will lose me. Make it an add-on, if anyone really wants this crap station.

Don't add it to the U200 package as you will lose me. Make it an add-on, if anyone really wants this crap station.

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Don't let me see ANY of you haters walking down the street (and some of you live in Austin).

 

crap station? Go on and eat your cornbread and cry yourself to sleep watching your Travel channel Man vs. Food. 

Don't let me see ANY of you haters walking down the street (and some of you live in Austin).

 

crap station? Go on and eat your cornbread and cry yourself to sleep watching your Travel channel Man vs. Food. 

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