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I just had installed a H21-200 in the same location that my H20-600 had been for many years (6 to be exact).   The H20-600 was relocated to the MBR and is working perfectly.  However when setting up the H21-200 neither the selection of the 3LNB or the 5 LNB dish option set-up worked 100% correctly.  Now after a few days of use I am getting the message on the H21-200 that the guide has not downloaded for an hour (or after being off for awhile, 10 hrs.) call DirecTV code 920.  I've looked at the guide and all info appears top be there.  But I have no idea why the message comes up repeatedly.  What can be done to alleviate this or preferably to fix it?

thanks, BL

I just had installed a H21-200 in the same location that my H20-600 had been for many years (6 to be exact).   The H20-600 was relocated to the MBR and is working perfectly.  However when setting up the H21-200 neither the selection of the 3LNB or the 5 LNB dish option set-up worked 100% correctly.  Now after a few days of use I am getting the message on the H21-200 that the guide has not downloaded for an hour (or after being off for awhile, 10 hrs.) call DirecTV code 920.  I've looked at the guide and all info appears top be there.  But I have no idea why the message comes up repeatedly.  What can be done to alleviate this or preferably to fix it?

thanks, BL

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Press the info button on the remote and hold it down for a few seconds until the system info comes to the screen.

Choose more info and scroll down the screen to see what dish the receiver is set for.

 

Now, repeat that on the receiver that is working good.

 

If they are different change the receiver with the problem to match the good receiver.

See if that helps.

Press the info button on the remote and hold it down for a few seconds until the system info comes to the screen.

Choose more info and scroll down the screen to see what dish the receiver is set for.

 

Now, repeat that on the receiver that is working good.

 

If they are different change the receiver with the problem to match the good receiver.

See if that helps.

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How many "knobs" does your LNB has?.  If it has one, then you have an Slimline 3LNB.  if it has three, you have an slimline 5LNB.  Make sure that your settings are correct.  If you have a 5LNB, make sure that the signal is adequate (90s or better) on the 119 satellite.

How many "knobs" does your LNB has?.  If it has one, then you have an Slimline 3LNB.  if it has three, you have an slimline 5LNB.  Make sure that your settings are correct.  If you have a 5LNB, make sure that the signal is adequate (90s or better) on the 119 satellite.

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Jimmie and Peds48, thanks for the quick responses.  I have a 5LNB, aka 3 knobs.  Both boxes are set to this.  When set to the 5 LNB setting which the old H20-600 is correctly set at-with no issues what so ever, however, the H21-200 comes up with a few of the dreaded red x's on the satellite set-up check, 3 of them if I recall correctly.  The DTV tech who I was coordinating the install with via phone was aware of this and said not to worry - LOL.  I'll check later on when I get home as to which satellite that/those red X/X's  is/are for.  Because I know my set up is for a 5LNB, the 920 message concerns me.  thanks again BL 

Jimmie and Peds48, thanks for the quick responses.  I have a 5LNB, aka 3 knobs.  Both boxes are set to this.  When set to the 5 LNB setting which the old H20-600 is correctly set at-with no issues what so ever, however, the H21-200 comes up with a few of the dreaded red x's on the satellite set-up check, 3 of them if I recall correctly.  The DTV tech who I was coordinating the install with via phone was aware of this and said not to worry - LOL.  I'll check later on when I get home as to which satellite that/those red X/X's  is/are for.  Because I know my set up is for a 5LNB, the 920 message concerns me.  thanks again BL 

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The 920 message should concern you.  Please port your signal readings....

 


You'll find these readings under "Menu" -> "Setup" -> "System Setup" -> Satellite -> "View Signal Strength". Note the "+" and "-" symbols next to the "Satellite" and "Tuner" entries where you can toggle the readings between the various satellites and both DVR tuners. If you have a DVR it's important to check BOTH satellite tuners. 

Fill in your readings for each satellite and tuner on the new post you create, using the example below as a guide. (The example below is only an example and not a form that will appear in your post unless you "cut" and "paste" it.) A properly aligned dish will show 80-90s on most of the relevant transponders (although some will be low or zero):
Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
[Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # # # # # # # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #
25-32 # # # # # # # #

Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
[A few HD channels, also beamed from 99 & 103º]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA #
9-16 NA # NA # NA NA NA NA

Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
[Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA # # #
25-32 # # # # # # # #

Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s)) [or 99º(b)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #
[Note: these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c)) [or 99º(a)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s)) [or 103º(a)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(ca)) 
[National HD channels]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
9-16 # # # # # # # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #

Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(cb)) [or 103º(b)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

Satellite transponders (9 total at SWM)
[You'll only see this if you have a Single Wire Multiswitch (SWM) dish]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

The 920 message should concern you.  Please port your signal readings....

 


You'll find these readings under "Menu" -> "Setup" -> "System Setup" -> Satellite -> "View Signal Strength". Note the "+" and "-" symbols next to the "Satellite" and "Tuner" entries where you can toggle the readings between the various satellites and both DVR tuners. If you have a DVR it's important to check BOTH satellite tuners. 

Fill in your readings for each satellite and tuner on the new post you create, using the example below as a guide. (The example below is only an example and not a form that will appear in your post unless you "cut" and "paste" it.) A properly aligned dish will show 80-90s on most of the relevant transponders (although some will be low or zero):
Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
[Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # # # # # # # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #
25-32 # # # # # # # #

Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
[A few HD channels, also beamed from 99 & 103º]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA #
9-16 NA # NA # NA NA NA NA

Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
[Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA # # #
25-32 # # # # # # # #

Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s)) [or 99º(b)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #
[Note: these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c)) [or 99º(a)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s)) [or 103º(a)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 # # # # # # NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(ca)) 
[National HD channels]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
9-16 # # # # # # # #
17-24 # # # # # # # #

Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(cb)) [or 103º(b)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # # # # # # NA NA
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

Satellite transponders (9 total at SWM)
[You'll only see this if you have a Single Wire Multiswitch (SWM) dish]
1-8 # # # # # # # #
9-16 # NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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Note that the red X's are not a cause to change your dish type, it must be set to the actual model that is on the roof, no exceptions.  It's more likely you have a misaligned dish or a blockage of the 119 signal.  Be sure and report the signals that Ped's requested.

Note that the red X's are not a cause to change your dish type, it must be set to the actual model that is on the roof, no exceptions.  It's more likely you have a misaligned dish or a blockage of the 119 signal.  Be sure and report the signals that Ped's requested.

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When running the satellite strength readings on the H21-200 the 119 does not show at all - so I'm guessing the dish is not seeing the satellite due to blockage or misalignment, the only mention of the 119 is on the chart below (ok = a checkmark):

                    99  101  103  110  119

ODD             ok    ok    ok      -     X

EVEN           o      ok    X      ok    X

 

HOWEVER,

my H20-600 unit sees the 119 satellite

Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
[Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA 0   0  60

25-32  0     0   0    0    0   0   0   0

 

do you still need the signal strength readings for all satellites?

When running the satellite strength readings on the H21-200 the 119 does not show at all - so I'm guessing the dish is not seeing the satellite due to blockage or misalignment, the only mention of the 119 is on the chart below (ok = a checkmark):

                    99  101  103  110  119

ODD             ok    ok    ok      -     X

EVEN           o      ok    X      ok    X

 

HOWEVER,

my H20-600 unit sees the 119 satellite

Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
[Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA 0   0  60

25-32  0     0   0    0    0   0   0   0

 

do you still need the signal strength readings for all satellites?

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that 60 is meaningless.  the number may not appear on your other receiver because it might be a longer cable. te fact that you  have an X on the 103 indicates a mis aligned dish.  the fact that you are geting all zeroes on the 119 could mean that something is blocking that satellite.

that 60 is meaningless.  the number may not appear on your other receiver because it might be a longer cable. te fact that you  have an X on the 103 indicates a mis aligned dish.  the fact that you are geting all zeroes on the 119 could mean that something is blocking that satellite.

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peds,

there is nothing blocking satellite reception and the cable runs are identical however I did a system setup yet again and got new/different results on the h21. the previous X on the 103 even is now a check mark. Also this is a 5LNB dish (3 knobs)

 

Satellite readings as requested:

 

Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
[Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
1-8 95 95 92 0 95 98 93 98
9-16 90 95 94 0 95 98 91 98

17-24 82 100 86 0 95 98 95 98
25-32 95 0 91 100 95 99 95 100

Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
[A few HD channels, also beamed from 99 & 103º]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA 93

9-16 NA 95 NA 95 NA NA NA NA

Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
[Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA na 0 0
25-32 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (this is different from the readings on my h20-600-see above)


Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s)) [or 99º(b)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 89

17-24 42 95 85 97 97 0 0

[Note: these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c)) [or 99º(a)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 81 84 79 80 79 82 81 82
9-16 80 83 83 80 85 86 NA NA
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s)) [or 103º(a)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 72 0 59 51 0 0 NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 99
17-24 0 0 97 97 98 97 0 0
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(ca))
[National HD channels]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
9-16 81 81 83 81 81 78 81 80
17-24 79 77 84 81 78 76 83 83

Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(cb)) [or 103º(b)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 89 83 80 74 85 80 78 71
9-16 86 78 79 72 84 82 NA NA
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

after all that I ran a data feed and guide feed test. the data fed passed and the guide feed failed, got an error code 82 dish selection error 119 is configured but not detected (again my h20-600 detects it).

 

Lastly I got the following Diagnostic Code: 43-45-055 dish alignment problem. is the tweeking of the alignment all that is necessary or are there more issues to be addressed?  Red button re-set??

peds,

there is nothing blocking satellite reception and the cable runs are identical however I did a system setup yet again and got new/different results on the h21. the previous X on the 103 even is now a check mark. Also this is a 5LNB dish (3 knobs)

 

Satellite readings as requested:

 

Satellite transponders (32 total at 101º)
[Most of your standard definition channels are beamed from 101ºW]
1-8 95 95 92 0 95 98 93 98
9-16 90 95 94 0 95 98 91 98

17-24 82 100 86 0 95 98 95 98
25-32 95 0 91 100 95 99 95 100

Satellite transponders (3 total at 110º)
[A few HD channels, also beamed from 99 & 103º]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA 93

9-16 NA 95 NA 95 NA NA NA NA

Satellite transponders (11 total at 119º)
[Local SD channels for some cities, Spanish package]
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA na 0 0
25-32 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (this is different from the readings on my h20-600-see above)


Satellite transponders (16 total at 99º(s)) [or 99º(b)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 89

17-24 42 95 85 97 97 0 0

[Note: these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (14 total at 99º(c)) [or 99º(a)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 81 84 79 80 79 82 81 82
9-16 80 83 83 80 85 86 NA NA
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(s)) [or 103º(a)]
[Local HD channels for some cities]
1-8 72 0 59 51 0 0 NA NA
9-16 NA NA NA NA NA NA 0 99
17-24 0 0 97 97 98 97 0 0
[Note, these can be very slow to appear]

Satellite transponders (16 total at 103º(ca))
[National HD channels]
1-8 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA
9-16 81 81 83 81 81 78 81 80
17-24 79 77 84 81 78 76 83 83

Satellite transponders (14 total at 103º(cb)) [or 103º(b)]
[National HD channels]
1-8 89 83 80 74 85 80 78 71
9-16 86 78 79 72 84 82 NA NA
17-24 NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA

after all that I ran a data feed and guide feed test. the data fed passed and the guide feed failed, got an error code 82 dish selection error 119 is configured but not detected (again my h20-600 detects it).

 

Lastly I got the following Diagnostic Code: 43-45-055 dish alignment problem. is the tweeking of the alignment all that is necessary or are there more issues to be addressed?  Red button re-set??

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Ok, so here is the skinny.  the H20 receiver does NOT have installation verification (IV).  IV is a built in tool on all of HD and HDDVR receivers that checks for the appropriate signal levels before a tech can activate the receiver.  this was developed by DirecTV to ensure that all their technicians are forced to peak the dish correctly before they can activate.  the last step checks for data feed and gude feed.  this is basically to make sure that the tech selects the correct dish type.

 

it boils down to three things, a bad receiver (not likely) or a bad LNB (maybe?) or something obstructing the dish view of the 119 (most common)

Ok, so here is the skinny.  the H20 receiver does NOT have installation verification (IV).  IV is a built in tool on all of HD and HDDVR receivers that checks for the appropriate signal levels before a tech can activate the receiver.  this was developed by DirecTV to ensure that all their technicians are forced to peak the dish correctly before they can activate.  the last step checks for data feed and gude feed.  this is basically to make sure that the tech selects the correct dish type.

 

it boils down to three things, a bad receiver (not likely) or a bad LNB (maybe?) or something obstructing the dish view of the 119 (most common)

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I have another bbc, will replace and see what happens.  The 5 LNB slimline dish is mounted on a steel fence at about 8 feet of height  The siteline is clear although there are 2 pine trees to the southeast about 125 to 150 yards away that are maybe 60+/- feet tall.  so do you beleive that its not an alignment issue? the dignostic code that was given is 43-45-055 / dish alignment problem.  I will take a pic of the mounting and the site line later on for whatever use that may be.  again thanks for all your insight and help

I have another bbc, will replace and see what happens.  The 5 LNB slimline dish is mounted on a steel fence at about 8 feet of height  The siteline is clear although there are 2 pine trees to the southeast about 125 to 150 yards away that are maybe 60+/- feet tall.  so do you beleive that its not an alignment issue? the dignostic code that was given is 43-45-055 / dish alignment problem.  I will take a pic of the mounting and the site line later on for whatever use that may be.  again thanks for all your insight and help

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while your 99 and 103 sats are not "optimal" (they could use some tweaking!) alignment is not the reason why the 119 is not coming in.

while your 99 and 103 sats are not "optimal" (they could use some tweaking!) alignment is not the reason why the 119 is not coming in.

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peds48,

I've tried 2 other bbc's with, unfortunately, no difference.  I have absolutley no control over potential siteline issues caused by distant trees.  See attached pics.  Is there any other way around the 119 sat issue.  I have all of my locals, nationals and premium stations and I have the guide as well.  Do I truly need to see the 119?  if not what can be done to get rid of the hourly notification of the guide hasn't downloaded (yet the guide is there via another sat I guess)

thanks again,

BL

peds48,

I've tried 2 other bbc's with, unfortunately, no difference.  I have absolutley no control over potential siteline issues caused by distant trees.  See attached pics.  Is there any other way around the 119 sat issue.  I have all of my locals, nationals and premium stations and I have the guide as well.  Do I truly need to see the 119?  if not what can be done to get rid of the hourly notification of the guide hasn't downloaded (yet the guide is there via another sat I guess)

thanks again,

BL

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peds

Does he need the Slimline 5 ? Could he switch to a Slimline 3 ?

Unless he has some International programming package ?

peds

Does he need the Slimline 5 ? Could he switch to a Slimline 3 ?

Unless he has some International programming package ?

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Jimmie, that's a great idea as I don't have any international nor other language programming.  peds would that work?

BL

Jimmie, that's a great idea as I don't have any international nor other language programming.  peds would that work?

BL

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San Diego, CA locals are delivered on the 101 for Sd and on the 103 for HD. since you have an H20 receiver I am guessing that you were installed very long time ago when there were some HD channels on the 119. The good news is that this is no longer the case. you would need a service visit from DirecTV to realigned your dish and at the same time the tech can swap your LNB for a slimline 3LNB which only sees the 99, 101, 103. this fix will get rid of your problem.

San Diego, CA locals are delivered on the 101 for Sd and on the 103 for HD. since you have an H20 receiver I am guessing that you were installed very long time ago when there were some HD channels on the 119. The good news is that this is no longer the case. you would need a service visit from DirecTV to realigned your dish and at the same time the tech can swap your LNB for a slimline 3LNB which only sees the 99, 101, 103. this fix will get rid of your problem.

*The views and opinions expressed on this forum are purely my own. Any product claim, statistic, quote, or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider, or party.

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thanks peds and Jimmie,

I had the h20-600 installed back in December of 2006.

now the fun begins with DTV agreeing to the changeout

BL

thanks peds and Jimmie,

I had the h20-600 installed back in December of 2006.

now the fun begins with DTV agreeing to the changeout

BL

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dont get into details.  just call in and let him know that you are having reception issues.  follow their instructions and set up a date to have the tech come to your house.

dont get into details.  just call in and let him know that you are having reception issues.  follow their instructions and set up a date to have the tech come to your house.

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gotcha, thanks

will let you know how it goes after all is said and done

gotcha, thanks

will let you know how it goes after all is said and done

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peds48 and Jimmie57,

just to let you know the DTV service techie was here this morning - Sunday.  The 5LNB was replaced with a 3LNB and the dish alignment was tweeked.  all is well.

thanks to both of you for your help and comments

BL

peds48 and Jimmie57,

just to let you know the DTV service techie was here this morning - Sunday.  The 5LNB was replaced with a 3LNB and the dish alignment was tweeked.  all is well.

thanks to both of you for your help and comments

BL

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Quote: Originally Posted by blisme 

peds48 and Jimmie57,

just to let you know the DTV service techie was here this morning - Sunday.  The 5LNB was replaced with a 3LNB and the dish alignment was tweeked.  all is well.

thanks to both of you for your help and comments

BL


Ensure that your technician completed "Satellie Setup" to show the change from the Slimline-5 to the Slimline-3.  The dish configuration must match what the actual dish/LNB is in order to avoid the 920 error message on your H21, and the "to be announced/title not availlable" on your H20.

 

Good Luck!!

Quote: Originally Posted by blisme 

peds48 and Jimmie57,

just to let you know the DTV service techie was here this morning - Sunday.  The 5LNB was replaced with a 3LNB and the dish alignment was tweeked.  all is well.

thanks to both of you for your help and comments

BL


Ensure that your technician completed "Satellie Setup" to show the change from the Slimline-5 to the Slimline-3.  The dish configuration must match what the actual dish/LNB is in order to avoid the 920 error message on your H21, and the "to be announced/title not availlable" on your H20.

 

Good Luck!!

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Awesome.  Thanks for the update. Enjoy!

Awesome.  Thanks for the update. Enjoy!

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