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How do I transfer HR22-100 recorded programs to DVD's for watching on a PC?

I wiil obviously have to buy a compatible HD DVD Recorder/Player or BlueRay R/P to do this.  So my question is this; have any of you found and used a compatible R/P to actually do this?  And if so, what was the brand and model?

I wiil obviously have to buy a compatible HD DVD Recorder/Player or BlueRay R/P to do this.  So my question is this; have any of you found and used a compatible R/P to actually do this?  And if so, what was the brand and model?

How do I transfer HR22-100 recorded programs to DVD's for watching on a PC?

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Here is a forum dedicated to that hardware http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=106

Here is a forum dedicated to that hardware http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=106

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you would do this the same way you would do as if you were copying to a VCR.  the content won't be HD though

you would do this the same way you would do as if you were copying to a VCR.  the content won't be HD though

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Just found this information that seems to disagree. I'm not an expert in this area, so can shed some light on this?
Quote: Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder
With the Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder, converting and archiving your favorite home movies to DVD is simple. You can also experience your DVD movie collection in near HD quality with the Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder's 1080p upconversion via HDMI®. One Touch Recording on this Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder makes recording your favorite show simple. Just connect your DVD recorder to your cable or satellite box and you are set to record with the push of one button!

Video upconversion up to 1080p takes your current DVDs to a new level, for an amazing viewing experience on today's HDTVs. Multi-Format Recording and Playback provides the utmost in recording media convenience with compatibility with the most popular formats (DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW).



Just found this information that seems to disagree. I'm not an expert in this area, so can shed some light on this?
Quote: Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder
With the Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder, converting and archiving your favorite home movies to DVD is simple. You can also experience your DVD movie collection in near HD quality with the Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder's 1080p upconversion via HDMI®. One Touch Recording on this Toshiba DR430 DVD Recorder makes recording your favorite show simple. Just connect your DVD recorder to your cable or satellite box and you are set to record with the push of one button!

Video upconversion up to 1080p takes your current DVDs to a new level, for an amazing viewing experience on today's HDTVs. Multi-Format Recording and Playback provides the utmost in recording media convenience with compatibility with the most popular formats (DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW).



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Simple... you RECORD at DVD resolution

 

>1080p upconversion via HDMI

 

You PLAY at "near HD quality" by means of an "upconversion" process inside the box... IF your TV has an HDMI connection

 

Nowhere does it say you may record BluRay (true HiDef) on a DVD

 

ALSO... be aware that some (most?) DVD recorders will NOT record if the original recording on your DVR has a "do not record" flag

Simple... you RECORD at DVD resolution

 

>1080p upconversion via HDMI

 

You PLAY at "near HD quality" by means of an "upconversion" process inside the box... IF your TV has an HDMI connection

 

Nowhere does it say you may record BluRay (true HiDef) on a DVD

 

ALSO... be aware that some (most?) DVD recorders will NOT record if the original recording on your DVR has a "do not record" flag

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Thank you for the explination.  No problem with the flag.  All i want to do is get all the 1 to 2 years old news reports my wife insists on keeping until see can transcribe them off the DVR.  Then she can do it on her PC.  I don't know why DIRECTV can't mod thier boxes to just download the recordings to a PC direct via wifi or ethernet connections.

 

DIRECTV says you can record to an external hard drive.  Can you then connect that external drive to a PC and play the recordings on the PC?

Thank you for the explination.  No problem with the flag.  All i want to do is get all the 1 to 2 years old news reports my wife insists on keeping until see can transcribe them off the DVR.  Then she can do it on her PC.  I don't know why DIRECTV can't mod thier boxes to just download the recordings to a PC direct via wifi or ethernet connections.

 

DIRECTV says you can record to an external hard drive.  Can you then connect that external drive to a PC and play the recordings on the PC?

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Quote: Originally Posted by dubob 

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DIRECTV says you can record to an external hard drive.  Can you then connect that external drive to a PC and play the recordings on the PC?


Nope.  Recordings on the drive are encrypted to the DVR hardware.  Can't be exported anywhere. 

Quote: Originally Posted by dubob 

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DIRECTV says you can record to an external hard drive.  Can you then connect that external drive to a PC and play the recordings on the PC?


Nope.  Recordings on the drive are encrypted to the DVR hardware.  Can't be exported anywhere. 

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No, and No

 

DirecTV will never "mod" their boxes to allow transferring their recordings to a PC, since DTV is a follower of DRM (Digital Rights Management) which is imposed by the Movie Studios and TV Networks specifically to not allow copying their content

 

DTV does write that content to the hard drive in your DVR, but only for playback to a TV, not to a computer

 

All recordings are encrypted to the DVR that made the recording (a "code chip" on the DVR motherboard) so not only may you not play external drive recordings on a PC, you may not even connect that drive to a different DVR and play the recording

No, and No

 

DirecTV will never "mod" their boxes to allow transferring their recordings to a PC, since DTV is a follower of DRM (Digital Rights Management) which is imposed by the Movie Studios and TV Networks specifically to not allow copying their content

 

DTV does write that content to the hard drive in your DVR, but only for playback to a TV, not to a computer

 

All recordings are encrypted to the DVR that made the recording (a "code chip" on the DVR motherboard) so not only may you not play external drive recordings on a PC, you may not even connect that drive to a different DVR and play the recording

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Quote: Originally Posted by tigerjohn 

Simple... you RECORD at DVD resolution

 

>1080p upconversion via HDMI

 

 

recording via HDMI is not possible

Quote: Originally Posted by tigerjohn 

Simple... you RECORD at DVD resolution

 

>1080p upconversion via HDMI

 

 

recording via HDMI is not possible

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Anybody have a recommendation for a DVD recorder/player compatible with the HR22?

Anybody have a recommendation for a DVD recorder/player compatible with the HR22?

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Any DVD Recorder/Player will be compatible with the HR22.  I suggest you check out the appropriate Forum at http://www.avsforum.com where you can find recommendations and ask questions. 

Any DVD Recorder/Player will be compatible with the HR22.  I suggest you check out the appropriate Forum at http://www.avsforum.com where you can find recommendations and ask questions. 

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Thank you all for the help.

Thank you all for the help.

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Dubob is right to be concerned, at least in my opinion.  User djdicetn, who records mountains of programming, tells me that some DVD recorders have a super sensitive copy protection system which makes them impossible to use for this purpose.

Dubob is right to be concerned, at least in my opinion.  User djdicetn, who records mountains of programming, tells me that some DVD recorders have a super sensitive copy protection system which makes them impossible to use for this purpose.

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Would the Toshiba D-R560 fall into that group.  It is highly rated by Consumer Reports.  However, the references to it on the AVS Forums are from 2008.

Would the Toshiba D-R560 fall into that group.  It is highly rated by Consumer Reports.  However, the references to it on the AVS Forums are from 2008.

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I do a ton of recording from DVRs to DVD recorders and I would recommend either Magnavox or Panasonic recorders over the Toshibas because both have more flexibility in recording times. If that doesn't matter to you then the Toshiba would be fine. 

I do a ton of recording from DVRs to DVD recorders and I would recommend either Magnavox or Panasonic recorders over the Toshibas because both have more flexibility in recording times. If that doesn't matter to you then the Toshiba would be fine. 

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Would you have any model name/numbers handy for either make?

Would you have any model name/numbers handy for either make?

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They sell Magnavox and Toshiba On-line from walmart, You would need to look on Amazon for other brands. I really like this little workhorse, I'm using several of them.

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magnavox-ZC320MW8B-DVD-Recorder-with-Line-In-Recording/17337718

They sell Magnavox and Toshiba On-line from walmart, You would need to look on Amazon for other brands. I really like this little workhorse, I'm using several of them.

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magnavox-ZC320MW8B-DVD-Recorder-with-Line-In-Recording/17337718

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Quote: Originally Posted by joed32 

They sell Magnavox and Toshiba On-line from walmart, You would need to look on Amazon for other brands. I really like this little workhorse, I'm using several of them.

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magnavox-ZC320MW8B-DVD-Recorder-with-Line-In-Recording

 

 


This is a newer model than the ones I have but  seems to be the same.

Quote: Originally Posted by joed32 

They sell Magnavox and Toshiba On-line from walmart, You would need to look on Amazon for other brands. I really like this little workhorse, I'm using several of them.

 

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Magnavox-ZC320MW8B-DVD-Recorder-with-Line-In-Recording

 

 


This is a newer model than the ones I have but  seems to be the same.

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i use Hauppage to clear my DVR's. the HD DVR lets you transfer to your hard drive your recordings. This way you can check your recordings whenever you want. If you want to record in a dvd you can do in a regular DVD and the quality is HD. Good Luck

i use Hauppage to clear my DVR's. the HD DVR lets you transfer to your hard drive your recordings. This way you can check your recordings whenever you want. If you want to record in a dvd you can do in a regular DVD and the quality is HD. Good Luck

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Quote: Originally Posted by conexxio 
 If you want to record in a dvd you can do in a regular DVD and the quality is HD. Good Luck


Not possible... a DVD records at 720x480, which is SD, NOT High Definition... you must use BluRay to record full HD

 

As discussed up thread, an upconverting player may make SD look "almost" like HD, but a DVD is SD, not HD

Quote: Originally Posted by conexxio 
 If you want to record in a dvd you can do in a regular DVD and the quality is HD. Good Luck


Not possible... a DVD records at 720x480, which is SD, NOT High Definition... you must use BluRay to record full HD

 

As discussed up thread, an upconverting player may make SD look "almost" like HD, but a DVD is SD, not HD

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The dvd's are only a recording support, they don't have a established format. Go to Hauppage HD PVR. I record in HD more than a year ago. In 13.5 Mb it looks perfect.
The dvd's are only a recording support, they don't have a established format. Go to Hauppage HD PVR. I record in HD more than a year ago. In 13.5 Mb it looks perfect.

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I don't have a clue what this actually means, but here are the recording specs for the HD PVR.

 

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Recording format:

  • up to 1080i from component video (YCrCb or YPrPb)
  • NTSC: 720p60, 1080i60, 480i60, 480p60
  • PAL: 720p50, 1080i50, 576p50, 576i50, 480p50, 480i50
    Note: the video input format determines the recorded format. For example, 1080i input records at 1080i, 720P records at 720P, etc. Any other format conversions needs to be done with the MediaConvert program (supplied).


It appears to me that it says it can record in HD. But I don't know what NTSC or PAL means with regard to recording.

I don't have a clue what this actually means, but here are the recording specs for the HD PVR.

 

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Recording format:

  • up to 1080i from component video (YCrCb or YPrPb)
  • NTSC: 720p60, 1080i60, 480i60, 480p60
  • PAL: 720p50, 1080i50, 576p50, 576i50, 480p50, 480i50
    Note: the video input format determines the recorded format. For example, 1080i input records at 1080i, 720P records at 720P, etc. Any other format conversions needs to be done with the MediaConvert program (supplied).


It appears to me that it says it can record in HD. But I don't know what NTSC or PAL means with regard to recording.

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It can record in HD on it's hard drive. Just can't export it because no DVD recorders will accept it. The "News reports" that you want to record can be recorded in 480p on a DVD recorder then played back on an upscaling DVD player and will look pretty good. About the same as A purchased DVD, Depending upon the quality of the original material.

It can record in HD on it's hard drive. Just can't export it because no DVD recorders will accept it. The "News reports" that you want to record can be recorded in 480p on a DVD recorder then played back on an upscaling DVD player and will look pretty good. About the same as A purchased DVD, Depending upon the quality of the original material.

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NTSC and PAL are the systems that the networks use according to what the country decide the system is going to use. USA. Is NTSC
NTSC and PAL are the systems that the networks use according to what the country decide the system is going to use. USA. Is NTSC

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Wrong again. You put your movies in the hard drive and then you record in the recorder of your computer. You decide the format regular DVD or blue ray. Anyway is HD. The only limitation is if you record as a blue ray it is only going to be played in a Blue Ray player.
Wrong again. You put your movies in the hard drive and then you record in the recorder of your computer. You decide the format regular DVD or blue ray. Anyway is HD. The only limitation is if you record as a blue ray it is only going to be played in a Blue Ray player.

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If you have a recorder that will write High Definition to a DVD, that is fine... just do not expect that DVD to play in a regular DVD player, because it will not... the data rate for HD is too high for a regular DVD player

 

Link to DVD Demystified FAQ http://forums.adobe.com/thread/544206

If you have a recorder that will write High Definition to a DVD, that is fine... just do not expect that DVD to play in a regular DVD player, because it will not... the data rate for HD is too high for a regular DVD player

 

Link to DVD Demystified FAQ http://forums.adobe.com/thread/544206

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Ok, just want to double check some info put out on this post.....  I have an HR24-200 (terrible receiver by the way) that I want to replace with a different model/brand, SOON!  But, I do not want to lose all the programs I have on my current receiver when I send this one back to DirecTv, so if I'm understanding correctly, I can not transfer my shows to an external hard drive then transfer back to my new hard drive once I install it?  DirecTv said I can, but not too sure after seeing what you guys are saying about transferring data.

Ok, just want to double check some info put out on this post.....  I have an HR24-200 (terrible receiver by the way) that I want to replace with a different model/brand, SOON!  But, I do not want to lose all the programs I have on my current receiver when I send this one back to DirecTv, so if I'm understanding correctly, I can not transfer my shows to an external hard drive then transfer back to my new hard drive once I install it?  DirecTv said I can, but not too sure after seeing what you guys are saying about transferring data.

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Quote: Originally Posted by onephat66 

Ok, just want to double check some info put out on this post.....  I have an HR24-200 (terrible receiver by the way) that I want to replace with a different model/brand, SOON!  But, I do not want to lose all the programs I have on my current receiver when I send this one back to DirecTv, so if I'm understanding correctly, I can not transfer my shows to an external hard drive then transfer back to my new hard drive once I install it?  DirecTv said I can, but not too sure after seeing what you guys are saying about transferring data.


no way to transfer show digitally.  (bit by bit).  the HR24 is the latest HDDVR.  what model are you trying to get?  all DirecTV are the same "brand"  although they are made by different manufactures under the same specifications.

Quote: Originally Posted by onephat66 

Ok, just want to double check some info put out on this post.....  I have an HR24-200 (terrible receiver by the way) that I want to replace with a different model/brand, SOON!  But, I do not want to lose all the programs I have on my current receiver when I send this one back to DirecTv, so if I'm understanding correctly, I can not transfer my shows to an external hard drive then transfer back to my new hard drive once I install it?  DirecTv said I can, but not too sure after seeing what you guys are saying about transferring data.


no way to transfer show digitally.  (bit by bit).  the HR24 is the latest HDDVR.  what model are you trying to get?  all DirecTV are the same "brand"  although they are made by different manufactures under the same specifications.

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I thought he was talking about the Directv DVR, not the Haupage which I know nothing about.

I thought he was talking about the Directv DVR, not the Haupage which I know nothing about.

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Quote: Originally Posted by onephat66 

Ok, just want to double check some info put out on this post.....  I have an HR24-200 (terrible receiver by the way) that I want to replace with a different model/brand, SOON!  But, I do not want to lose all the programs I have on my current receiver when I send this one back to DirecTv, so if I'm understanding correctly, I can not transfer my shows to an external hard drive then transfer back to my new hard drive once I install it?  DirecTv said I can, but not too sure after seeing what you guys are saying about transferring data.


As far as I know, all recordings are encrypted and will play only on the DVR used to make the recording... there is a "code chip" on the motherboard that is used for the encryption decryption process (I don't know the exact name of the hardware on the motherboard, hence the " ")

Quote: Originally Posted by onephat66 

Ok, just want to double check some info put out on this post.....  I have an HR24-200 (terrible receiver by the way) that I want to replace with a different model/brand, SOON!  But, I do not want to lose all the programs I have on my current receiver when I send this one back to DirecTv, so if I'm understanding correctly, I can not transfer my shows to an external hard drive then transfer back to my new hard drive once I install it?  DirecTv said I can, but not too sure after seeing what you guys are saying about transferring data.


As far as I know, all recordings are encrypted and will play only on the DVR used to make the recording... there is a "code chip" on the motherboard that is used for the encryption decryption process (I don't know the exact name of the hardware on the motherboard, hence the " ")

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