Locked bootloader on Galaxy S4...DO NOT BUY IT!

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Locked bootloader on Galaxy S4...DO NOT BUY IT!

I been with ATT for over 10 years and every year I see more and more anticonsumer behavior from you... I was planning on purchasing new Galaxy S4 and now I come to find out that it and the other high-end phone, HTC One, both have locked bootloaders!

 

Why are you crippling devices ATT? This is a slap in the face to any loyal customer and high-tech driven people. These phones were meant to be used with maximum cusomization in mind, Sprint and T-Mobile both released theirs totally unmolested.

 

Why are you driving your customers away?

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It's just one of those things, unfortunately. I agree that it's inconvenient, and would prefer bootloaders unlocked, but this is what you get for buying a subsidized phone through AT&T.

 

It would be nice if AT&T would allow us more customization in how we use our phones. Smiley Happy

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From what I understand, all US versions of the GS4 have locked bootloaders. This is becoming a trend and is yet another reason why my GS3 is the last carrier variant I ever buy.
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I stand corrected. Sprint's version ships with an unlocked boot loader. The bootloader on AT&T's version has already been hacked, so you can still load custom ROMs on it. However, AT&T's contempt for their customers is becoming very worrisome. While I may not necessarily leave AT&T at the end of my contract, I certainly won't be renewing it.
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T-mobile and Sprint both offer S4s with unlocked bootloaders.  I agree that no one should purchase this phone from AT&T while they decide to keep the bootloader locked.  Even people that want to keep their phone stock should be greatly concerned by this because it signals AT&T's power-hungry control as well as their pure disreguard for consumers.

 

 

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Yep. Locked boot loader = no sale.
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HappyBallz wrote:

I been with ATT for over 10 years and every year I see more and more anticonsumer behavior from you... I was planning on purchasing new Galaxy S4 and now I come to find out that it and the other high-end phone, HTC One, both have locked bootloaders!

 

Why are you crippling devices ATT? This is a slap in the face to any loyal customer and high-tech driven people. These phones were meant to be used with maximum cusomization in mind, Sprint and T-Mobile both released theirs totally unmolested.

 

Why are you driving your customers away?


It has been unlocked now!

 

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/01/dan-rosenberg-has-unlocked-att-galaxy-s4s-bootloader-but-we-...

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PhoneWizard wrote:

It's just one of those things, unfortunately. I agree that it's inconvenient, and would prefer bootloaders unlocked, but this is what you get for buying a subsidized phone through AT&T.

 

It would be nice if AT&T would allow us more customization in how we use our phones. Smiley Happy


Wouldn't this affect everyone who bought the phone through AT&T, not just the subsidized purchasers? 

 

I'm thinking about what to do in this situation.  Return it and buy it outside of AT&T or just keep it.  I didn't plan to change the kernel on my Galaxy S4 anyway, but it's the principle of the matter that I oppose.

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The unlock method will not be available until the end of the month and even then it can be "patched" by a firmware update from AT&T.  It is the fact that AT&T chose to openly do this that should worry all of AT&T's customers.  It is a clear signal that they think they should control what you do and when you do it even if you clearly own the device (fully paid for).

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"It's what you get for buying a subsidized phone..." Absolutely not OK. We agree to contracts with AT&T, and Early Termination Fees to protect their subsidy in the phone. SIM locking and bootloader locking are just slaps in the face. I've paid my cellular bill on time since 1997, and they sell me a crippled device?

What would you say if the bank that loaned you money for your car told you you can't put on a roof rack, or tint the windows? What right does AT&T have to lock us out of our own phones? And it doesn't matter if a hack exists - the point is, we shouldn't need one.
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HAve to agree that it makes no sense for ATT to cripple our phones even if they are subsidized. Either way--you would have to pay an ETF if you decided to leave. ATT obviously wants to keep that phone attached to their network. 

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Our 1st bootloader fix has already been killed by Sammy. I will only buy International phones unless this crap is stopped.

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I would bet on that majority of the people that buy the Galaxy s4 or other phones do not care about locked bootloaders or even flashing custom ROM's. I for one am happy enough with Touchwiz and while i would of liked a unlockd bootloader to try out custom rom's it is not a deal breaker and probably isn't a deal breaker fpr majority of consumers
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Closingracer wrote:
I would bet on that majority of the people that buy the Galaxy S4 or other phones do not care about locked bootloaders or even flashing custom ROMs. I for one am happy enough with Touchwiz and while I would have liked a unlocked bootloader to try out custom ROMs it is not a deal breaker and probably isn't a deal breaker for a majority of consumers

While I'm glad that you personally don't feel insulted by AT&T's move, there is a rather large base of people that do, and to deny them is absurd.

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jii wrote:

Closingracer wrote:
I would bet on that majority of the people that buy the Galaxy S4 or other phones do not care about locked bootloaders or even flashing custom ROMs. I for one am happy enough with Touchwiz and while I would have liked a unlocked bootloader to try out custom ROMs it is not a deal breaker and probably isn't a deal breaker for a majority of consumers

While I'm glad that you personally don't feel insulted by AT&T's move, there is a rather large base of people that do, and to deny them is absurd.


AT&T's treatment of Android phones and customers who buy them is most certainly absurd and insulting. Not only does AT&T unreasonably delay software updates, but, by locking bootloaders, it also prevents customers who would rather seek out timely updates elsewhere (i.e., custom ROMs) from installing them. For these reasons, I got rid of my GS3 (sold it for $325 on Feebay) and bought the GS4 Google Edition. My new phone is already running Android 4.3, which it received a week after it was announced. I will never buy another carrier-branded phone.

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