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Is this normal?
Edited by Ann154 on Apr 11, 2011 at 4:35:24 AM

Okay I am getting to point where I need to decide if I am keeping this HTC Aria.  At work in the middle of tall building and concrete, the AT&T signal is great.  They have been there for awhile.  At home where the network is new, I can agree that their have delivered on their promise to be similar to the network I had before.  However if I go out of my home town just a few miles, the signal drops quickly to EDGE or GPRS.  It may be good voice signal strength, but I have to use my phone as my sole source for the internet when I am in that area for extended periods of time.  This area had Verizon 3G.  It might have been on their lower end of 3G, but I could easily use it without noticing a drop in speed.

 

Is normal EDGE speeds?

50 kbps down, 72 kbps up, 1188 ms

111 kbps dn, 88 kbps up, 1333 ms

111 kbps dn, 78 kbps up, 957 ms

122 kbps dn, 88 kbps up, 1095 ms

 

Are these normal 3G (HSPA) (selected results) speeds?

389 kbps dn, 129 kbps up, 388 ms (lowest test)

405 kbps dn, 97 kbps up, 256 ms

619 kbps dn, 97 kbps up, 389 ms

726 kbps dn, 92 kbps up, 542 ms

990 kbps dn, 131 kbps up, 423 ms

1212 kbps dn, 102 kbps up, 184 ms

1546 kbps dn, 136 kbps up, 1506 ms

1868 kbps dn, 114 kbps up, 356 ms (highest test)

 

For comparison Verizon 3G (selected results)

1751 kbps dn, 828 kbps up, 287 ms (highest test)

1555 kbps dn, 738 kbps up 257 ms

1202 kbps dn, 537 kbps up, 332 ms

985 kbps dn, 806 kbps up, 316 ms

880 kbps dn, 352 kbps up, 349 ms

594 kbps dn, 834 kbps up, 278 ms

428 kbps dn, 388 kbps up, 534 ms

244 kbps dn, 432 kbps up, 314 ms (lowest test)

126 kbps dn, 168 kbps 12 ms (I think this one was 1x)

 

All the speed tests were done with Ookla's speedtest.net app for android.

 

The download speeds seems to be about equal between networks.  The upload for AT&T is just SAD.  The ping latency on AT&T can vary a bit.  I only put one example of the 3G on here, but there were others that were in the 1000+ ms for tests.  The EDGE latency is just as bad. 

 

What do you as AT&T users think?

 

Can AT&T's signal range widely while been in one place?  I went from displaying three bars to zero in the span of minutes.  It will do this all day in my home.

 

Sorry for the blurry camera shots.  The other phone just couldn't focus that close.

 

Probably from mobile, maybe. Smiley Happy

Okay I am getting to point where I need to decide if I am keeping this HTC Aria.  At work in the middle of tall building and concrete, the AT&T signal is great.  They have been there for awhile.  At home where the network is new, I can agree that their have delivered on their promise to be similar to the network I had before.  However if I go out of my home town just a few miles, the signal drops quickly to EDGE or GPRS.  It may be good voice signal strength, but I have to use my phone as my sole source for the internet when I am in that area for extended periods of time.  This area had Verizon 3G.  It might have been on their lower end of 3G, but I could easily use it without noticing a drop in speed.

 

Is normal EDGE speeds?

50 kbps down, 72 kbps up, 1188 ms

111 kbps dn, 88 kbps up, 1333 ms

111 kbps dn, 78 kbps up, 957 ms

122 kbps dn, 88 kbps up, 1095 ms

 

Are these normal 3G (HSPA) (selected results) speeds?

389 kbps dn, 129 kbps up, 388 ms (lowest test)

405 kbps dn, 97 kbps up, 256 ms

619 kbps dn, 97 kbps up, 389 ms

726 kbps dn, 92 kbps up, 542 ms

990 kbps dn, 131 kbps up, 423 ms

1212 kbps dn, 102 kbps up, 184 ms

1546 kbps dn, 136 kbps up, 1506 ms

1868 kbps dn, 114 kbps up, 356 ms (highest test)

 

For comparison Verizon 3G (selected results)

1751 kbps dn, 828 kbps up, 287 ms (highest test)

1555 kbps dn, 738 kbps up 257 ms

1202 kbps dn, 537 kbps up, 332 ms

985 kbps dn, 806 kbps up, 316 ms

880 kbps dn, 352 kbps up, 349 ms

594 kbps dn, 834 kbps up, 278 ms

428 kbps dn, 388 kbps up, 534 ms

244 kbps dn, 432 kbps up, 314 ms (lowest test)

126 kbps dn, 168 kbps 12 ms (I think this one was 1x)

 

All the speed tests were done with Ookla's speedtest.net app for android.

 

The download speeds seems to be about equal between networks.  The upload for AT&T is just SAD.  The ping latency on AT&T can vary a bit.  I only put one example of the 3G on here, but there were others that were in the 1000+ ms for tests.  The EDGE latency is just as bad. 

 

What do you as AT&T users think?

 

Can AT&T's signal range widely while been in one place?  I went from displaying three bars to zero in the span of minutes.  It will do this all day in my home.

 

Sorry for the blurry camera shots.  The other phone just couldn't focus that close.

 

Probably from mobile, maybe. :)
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Hmm... If you are having upload/download (in terms of speed) issues, I would give up the Aria and head back to Verizon. I can see that you are in a difficult situation. If Verizon's coverage was more widespread and essentially, quicker than you are experiencing with AT&T, I do not see why you wouldn't want to head back over there. Smiley Wink I like Verizon, but they are a bit on the pricey side. Most people would say, "AT&T and Verizon have the same pricing structure", but really, Verizon's pricing plans jump ahead just slightly over equally what AT&T has to offer.

I may switch back to Verizon in a few years. Overall, they have been good, and I always had a great signal. The only problem I had was the pricing and the phone (needed a new battery BADLY).

This morning, I had forgot to bring something along with me, called my home, explained what I had forgotten, and hoped that I would get it. Unfortunately, in the middle of the call...it dropped. I had no idea what had happened to it. All I knew was, I was happy that I had explained for the most part what I needed.

If the AT&T network satisfies, Ann154, keep the Aria. If not, your HTC Droid Eris is always welcoming you with open arms... Smiley Wink

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That upload looks a lot nicer than before, RicoLX. I would be happy with the download speed.

I was shocked to get some these numbers over the past few days and not all on full bars. All on the other network. Some of these were where AT&T only had EDGE.

Sampling of the higher test results
ping, down, up
270 2477 781
287 2043 667
291 2028 904
270 2024 904
250 1979 848
274 1974 900
Probably from mobile, maybe. Smiley Happy
That upload looks a lot nicer than before, RicoLX. I would be happy with the download speed.

I was shocked to get some these numbers over the past few days and not all on full bars. All on the other network. Some of these were where AT&T only had EDGE.

Sampling of the higher test results
ping, down, up
270 2477 781
287 2043 667
291 2028 904
270 2024 904
250 1979 848
274 1974 900
Probably from mobile, maybe. :)
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Ran a test this morning and a couple more just a bit ago at my place of employment. These are my numbers so far:

 

95 5834 1295

99 5358 1283

88 6071 1281

 

Hello HSPA+!!! Apparently having the upload speed capped was hammering the download speed due to the increased latency, which proved to be quiet a bit.

Ran a test this morning and a couple more just a bit ago at my place of employment. These are my numbers so far:

 

95 5834 1295

99 5358 1283

88 6071 1281

 

Hello HSPA+!!! Apparently having the upload speed capped was hammering the download speed due to the increased latency, which proved to be quiet a bit.

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Hello HTC Inspire 4G! The network finally lives up to the name of the device. Did you get the update before Sunday, sitnsidewayz?

Sadly I was working with a HTC Aria. However the network failed for me more than the device.
Probably from mobile, maybe. Smiley Happy
Hello HTC Inspire 4G! The network finally lives up to the name of the device. Did you get the update before Sunday, sitnsidewayz?

Sadly I was working with a HTC Aria. However the network failed for me more than the device.
Probably from mobile, maybe. :)
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Way to go sitnsidewayz! Cool, att took care of the issue. Perfecto
Way to go sitnsidewayz! Cool, att took care of the issue. Perfecto
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Ann154 wrote:
Hello HTC Inspire 4G! The network finally lives up to the name of the device. Did you get the update before Sunday, sitnsidewayz?

Sadly I was working with a HTC Aria. However the network failed for me more than the device.

I was able to update on Saturday. I got several server not availables before it finally went through.


Ann154 wrote:
Hello HTC Inspire 4G! The network finally lives up to the name of the device. Did you get the update before Sunday, sitnsidewayz?

Sadly I was working with a HTC Aria. However the network failed for me more than the device.

I was able to update on Saturday. I got several server not availables before it finally went through.

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RicoLX wrote:
Way to go sitnsidewayz! Cool, att took care of the issue. Perfecto

Yes. I posted several times that I was in an upgraded area, yet would only get 2-3 mbps service, even as AT&T denied that the Inspire was capped. It is unleashed now. Now if only AT&T would remove that silly installing from unknown sources restriction, I would have a near perfect device.


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Way to go sitnsidewayz! Cool, att took care of the issue. Perfecto

Yes. I posted several times that I was in an upgraded area, yet would only get 2-3 mbps service, even as AT&T denied that the Inspire was capped. It is unleashed now. Now if only AT&T would remove that silly installing from unknown sources restriction, I would have a near perfect device.

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Manthats great, how you like being an Androidian, myfellow droider? yep, rooting these bad boys will open up new territories for us that att cant undo. For some reason ican load side apps on mine even though its not rooted. But it came from dell and absolutely no att bloat to start with. But got some dell stuff I cuould use gettn rid of.... but, man, thats goodthe atrix and arias are finally getting the service you paid for in the first place
Manthats great, how you like being an Androidian, myfellow droider? yep, rooting these bad boys will open up new territories for us that att cant undo. For some reason ican load side apps on mine even though its not rooted. But it came from dell and absolutely no att bloat to start with. But got some dell stuff I cuould use gettn rid of.... but, man, thats goodthe atrix and arias are finally getting the service you paid for in the first place
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RicoLX wrote:
Manthats great, how you like being an Androidian, myfellow droider? yep, rooting these bad boys will open up new territories for us that att cant undo. For some reason ican load side apps on mine even though its not rooted. But it came from dell and absolutely no att bloat to start with. But got some dell stuff I cuould use gettn rid of.... but, man, thats goodthe atrix and arias are finally getting the service you paid for in the first place

Now that I have hsupa enabled and using Sideload Wonder Machine is such a breeze, I will put off rooting. I would love to remove the bloatware on the phone, but have no intentions of rooting just for that. Yes, I'm loving Android and having no regrets of switching over from WinMo.


RicoLX wrote:
Manthats great, how you like being an Androidian, myfellow droider? yep, rooting these bad boys will open up new territories for us that att cant undo. For some reason ican load side apps on mine even though its not rooted. But it came from dell and absolutely no att bloat to start with. But got some dell stuff I cuould use gettn rid of.... but, man, thats goodthe atrix and arias are finally getting the service you paid for in the first place

Now that I have hsupa enabled and using Sideload Wonder Machine is such a breeze, I will put off rooting. I would love to remove the bloatware on the phone, but have no intentions of rooting just for that. Yes, I'm loving Android and having no regrets of switching over from WinMo.

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Meee too, breaux, me too. Currently no need to root. But when that time comes, will be a new toy all over again. im glad you stuck with it till you got what youve been posting about. That can help others know what it was like then and now Smiley Wink
Meee too, breaux, me too. Currently no need to root. But when that time comes, will be a new toy all over again. im glad you stuck with it till you got what youve been posting about. That can help others know what it was like then and now Smiley Wink
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I think I like this stock experience on the Tbolt. Still haven't tweaked the Eris with Ginger yet. Real life keeps getting a higher priority.
Probably from mobile, maybe. Smiley Happy
I think I like this stock experience on the Tbolt. Still haven't tweaked the Eris with Ginger yet. Real life keeps getting a higher priority.
Probably from mobile, maybe. :)
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Same here, im still ok with stock
Same here, im still ok with stock
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No intentions of rooting my phone, either. Although, it would be an even cooler twist on how customizable your phone would be, even though Android offers (and allows) plenty of space to fit your stock phone to your liking.

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No intentions of rooting my phone, either. Although, it would be an even cooler twist on how customizable your phone would be, even though Android offers (and allows) plenty of space to fit your stock phone to your liking.

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The only time i think i would even consider rooting is if  my android is performing poorly due to  lack of space (and i have uninstalled all the apps i can do without), Otherwise, for now things are good.   I was happy to see the upload/download ratio and the quick rendering onscreen when i tested my droid while not using wi-fi.

The only time i think i would even consider rooting is if  my android is performing poorly due to  lack of space (and i have uninstalled all the apps i can do without), Otherwise, for now things are good.   I was happy to see the upload/download ratio and the quick rendering onscreen when i tested my droid while not using wi-fi.

Me and My DELL Streak (TED-III)

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