08-23-2013 3:06 PM - edited 08-23-2013 9:13 PM
Most people don't need advanced features that personally owned routers offer and will be just fine using the NVG589 and turning off their personally owned router. But if you're like me (and I know I am!) then you are probably reading this thread because you have ip cameras, personal clouds, photo servers, guest wifi, VPN's, xbox, QOS settings, et al. I have an ASUS RT-N66U , a VIP2250, and a wireless reciever with a WAP; but your settings should be similar.
The NVG589 does not have a simple 'Bridge mode' setting so you will need to get into weeds to get this working. I hope you're ready.
Make sure you have a laptop or a computer that you can connect directly into the NVG589.
Unplug all ethernet cables from the NVG589 except for the one going into the aforementioned laptop.
Write down the MAC address of your personal router (the WAN MAC address if you see different ones for LAN and WAN)
Settings on the NVG589
Personal Router Settings.
I also changed settings in my IPTV under LAN:
At this point, I checked the internet and everything was working great through the router. I restarted by 2 TV boxes (the VIP and the wifi ones). Everything is peachy.
Your mileage may vary. Good luck.
EDIT to update WAP configuration.
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09-05-2013 3:14 PM
Got it into bridge mode successfully, thanks. Still can't get the ports to open. I've been stumped on this for a pretty long time. I'm using the nvg589 and an Airport Extreme. I need the airport for wireless drives, or I would just use the Motorola. That being said, I've tried everything I know to get the ports open both from the Airport Utility program and the Port Map program. I don't have double NAT problems or anything. It says the ports are open but when I go to check them they are not. Any help or advice would be great.
09-10-2013 12:58 PM
09-26-2013 5:41 PM
Worked great but I had 2 changes I had to make.
1. If you have to manually enter the Default Server Internal Address, select Default Server for the Allocation Mode, enter the IP address in Manually Entry then click Save before going any further.
When I didn't do that and I changed the Allocation Mode to Passthrough, the first IP address that was in the list because the internal address.
2. I'm running Tomato 1.27 on a Asus WL-520GU router, I have my own DHCP and DNS servers. Under Basic/Network/LAN I had the IP address of the DNS server on my network. (back from when I was using my router for DHCP) I had to remove that and replace it w/an external DNS server.
09-27-2013 9:40 PM
10-09-2013 1:40 PM
a couple of notes I would like to make on this. for the most part it's correct.
Bullet 1.) 188.8.131.52-
I would not change it outside the 192.168.x.x class network specification. Doing this can cause some connectivity , DNS, and routing problems going outside the class.
Example (and yes I did this once!)--
I changed my base IP address to 184.108.40.206 as well as changed everything else. Everything worked ok till I do a traceroute or a path ping. This problem was really pervasive when on my iphone, speed tests would be way, way off, and wireless would sometimes have problems connecting. many times the first hop which should be my router didn't resolve properly and I also created other DNS problems (page can't be displayed, etc...) For this example I would stay within the confines of the wikipedia entry for private network.
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 16,777,216
single class A network
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 1,048,576
16 contiguous class B networks 172.16.0.0/12 (255.240.0.0)
20 bits 12 bits
of course the common block everyone with a router uses.
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255
256 contiguous class C networks 192.168.0.0/16 (255.255.0.0)
16 bits 16 bits
In this addendum I would say use
192.168.2.254 or 192.168.168.10.254
172.16.0.1 or 172.17.0.1
10.20.1.1 or 10.30.1.1
Either or would be fine.
Avoid the headache I created and stay within a private network setting. most DNS boxes already know what the private networks are. If you stay within the confines of them you are not adding frustration to your cause.
bullet 3 to bullet 5.) a tweak of subnets and IP's
Now you can leave this at 255.255.255.0 /24 (default) which would give you 254 Ip addresses on that NVG589 to use. however if you are not going to use them just eliminate them. Much less work on broadcasting that the router will have to do. Since you are passing the IP right to your router anyway save the work for the router behind.
for instance if you want a shorter range
255.255.255.240 would allow 14 IP addresses total this can also known as 255.255.255.240 /28
255.255.255.224 /27 This would allow 30 IP addresses total
what you essentially do is cut down on how many hosts you actually have. Essentually you are making the NVG (as well as any router made by any manufacturer) smarter buy giving it a short phone book to work with.
An example below for the NVG589
device IPv4 address: 172.21.0.1
DHCPv4 start IP address: 172.21.0.7
DHCPv4 end IP address: 172.21.0.14
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.240
DHCP addresses available: 8
Static IP's available: 5
Another example I would use
device IPv4 address: 10.20.1.1
DHCPv4 start IP address: 10.20.1.5
DHCPv4 end IP address: 10.20.1.30
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.224
DHCP addresses avaialble: 25
static IP addresses available: 4
Another example using 192.168.x.x
Device IPv4 address: 192.168.15.1
DHCPv4 start IP address: 192.168.15.5
DHCPv4 end IP address: 192.168.15.30
Subnet mask: 255.255.255.224
DHCP addresses avaialble: 25
static IP addresses available: 4
Note: I do not count the base IP address as a useable IP (another headache I learned to avoid the hard way).
From the bullet point of
I would continue on.
I don't get here all the time to check and see who replied so if there is any questions please drop me a line as I don't come here very often.
11-08-2013 2:02 PM
i get to the select "save" step then it freez's (spinning thinking wheel) then once i choose the home network tab it says "unable to connect" try to reload?
11-11-2013 12:56 PM
11-22-2013 3:40 PM
I want to say thanks to you guys for write up on this. I was having MAJOR NAT issues with PS3, PS4 and Xbox as soon as I switched to the NVG589. Never had these issues prior to that. I was able to run the NVG589 in passthrough and now running a MediaLink Wireless router. Everything seems to be working well. I finally have open NAT ports now that I have a router that supports UPNP. I have my cablebox and WAP plugged into the NVG589 all other devices are connected wired/wirelessly to the Medialink.
One issue that just came about though is intermittent dropouts of Xbox Live. It will sign me out but I can sign back in right away. Never had this issue before. I am not sure if its a setting I overlooked or what. I have the Xbox 360 wired directly to the MediaLink. Also I set the Medialink to give the Xbox the same IP everytime (same for the PS4)
I am running the Google DNS server settings.
What should I be looking @ for these strange dropouts all of a sudden?
11-29-2013 5:21 PM
First of all, let me say thanks for this, it works flawlessly!
However, I have an issue, not sure if anyone else also has it.
I have the Motorola NVG589 with the Pairbonding plan, and a /28 static block.
The IP Passthru works like it should, however, I can't manage my /28 with my personal router.
I bought a MikroTik RB2011 to fulfill this purpose, yet I cannot use it fully.
Does anyone know how I can manage the /28 block using the router with IP Passthru?
11-29-2013 10:01 PM
I have a Motorola NVG589 with a /29 block of Static IP's
I turned off all IP Passthrough
Under Home Network--Subnets & DHCP
Public Subnet Enable: On
Public IPv4 Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (Should be the last 'usable' IP in your /28)
Public Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.240 (For your /29)
DHCPv4 Start Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (First 'usable' IP in your /28)
DHCPv4 End Address: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (Next to last 'usable' IP in your /28)
Allow Inbound Traffic: On
Primary DHCP Pool: Public
I reduced my DHCP End address by the amount of IP's I wanted to assign myself.
Then I use those Public IP's on my devices that needed Static IP's
Use the Public IP addess of you RG (last 'usable' IP) as your gateway on your devices.
Make sure you set Allow Inbound Traffic: On
Should route correctly.
My /29 is xxx.xxx.xxx.248
My RG is set to xxx.xxx.xxx.254/29
My Apple AirPort is xxx.xxx.xxx.253/29
My VNP Server is xxx.xxx.xxx.252/29
I left the rest to the Public DHCP server (.249-.251)
Ex. setting for Apple AirPort
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.248 (.248 for my /29 -- would be .240 for your /28)
Default Gateway: xxx.xxx.xxx.254
DNS: xxx.xxx.xxx.254 (or any Public DNS servers you want to use)
This basically lets your Statics IP's fully route through your RG both incoming and outgoing.
Hope this makes since, if not let me know and I will see if I can explain better.
The 'IP Passthrough' method works great if you only have 1 IP, I fould this way to work perfect for my muiltible Statics.
12-17-2013 7:58 PM
Complete noob here with this stuff. I recently switched from Time Warner to Uverse and would like to continue using my RT-N66U with the NVG589. I followed all the steps listed above and somehow still screwed it up.
If my N66U router IP is 192.168.1.1 do I still need to change my NVG IPv4 to something other than 192.168.1.254? As I read it, I thought I only needed to change that on the NVG if it was the same as my N66U...
Somehow I managed to set my NVG IP as my N66U IP and that created an unbelievable headache!
Any help is appreciated.
12-17-2013 8:11 PM
If you're going to use your router AS a router (instead of as a switch/access point), then you'll need to use different subnets for the AT&T RG and your router. The AT&T router comes as 192.168.1.254 and manages the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet. Your router will have a WAN and a LAN address, and it's LAN address is probably 192.168.1.1 and also expects to work on the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet. This will cause confusion. Your router should get its WAN address from the RG via DHCP, which will either be something in the 192.168.1.0/24 subnet OR (if you've configured IP Passthrough), it'll be your external public IP address (i.e. the RG's WAN IP, but this is okay).
You can either change the RG's LAN address or your router's. 192.168.2.0/24 is a popular subnet, as is 172.16.1.0/24.
12-17-2013 8:27 PM
Is there a benefit to using my Asus as the sole wireless router versus using it as another access point? And I see that there is a cascade option within the NVG settings. What's the difference between the IP passthrough and just cascading my Asus router?
12-17-2013 9:19 PM
Successfully bridged my router and am able to connect wirelessly to my N66U with my computer. However, I am unable to connect with my iPhone or iPad. Recommendations?
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