Contributor
•
2 Messages
XBox Live problem - 2wire NAT is not open
I just got Uverse yesterday. I discovered that my NAT is moderate, which prevents me from joining my friends in games. I tried forwarding all the ports that microsoft reccomends... hasn't worked. Any input?
nephipower
Scholar
•
101 Messages
11 years ago
Ponzi obviously we are all wrong because it if gregzoll doesn't agree with us then we must be wrong
Despite having evidence to show the contrary he just can't seem to understand the concept of Xbox Live various levels of NAT and how that could conceiveable make it so you can't use some functionality on some online games.
0
0
Anonymous
New Member
•
25.7K Messages
11 years ago
With the 2-wire gateways, you cannot stealth ports after opening, but when the rig is connected to the RG, it will actually open and close ports as needed, regardless that it does not have UPnP.
You have to understand, there are some of us out there that know a little more about this stuff, and when we state that you do not have to open ports for the Xbox-360 or PS3 on the RG, in order to use it. Only if you have made some really obscure changes to the firewall on the RG beforehand, or have some weird hookup between the xbox-360 & ps3 back to the RG, then you are going to have problems.
Believe it or not, the standard ports are already listed in the firewall, and only way that you would have to go back and add them back in, is if you or someone else deleted them out of the firewall, then yes you would have problems.
0
0
Ponzi
Mentor
•
44 Messages
11 years ago
Greg, exactly what firmware changes did Microsoft make since 2011 that would have rendered this info outdated? I've checked all of the system software update descriptions for updates that Microsoft released in 2011 and afterwards, and I didn't see any that would pertain to the port-forwarding issue. In general, very few of the Xbox 360 system software updates include firmware updates, and if they do they may just apply to updating the firmware on the DVD drive. Here's a quote from Wikipedia on the subject: "While the system software updates may sometimes provide updates to the system's firmware, it is unlikely that this occurs with many, if any, updates."
As of today, Microsoft still includes the port forwarding recommendations mentioned in the post I linked above. If Microsoft released a firmware update that would have rendered this info obsolete, it's unlikely their Xbox support site would still make this recommendation.
Only a little off topic: I recently had a hardware problem with my Xbox that was solved on the phone with Microsoft technical support. The tech was U.S. based and spent almost an hour with me to narrow the issue down and identify the culprit. I was very impressed with the level of service. If the original poster is still monitoring this thread, he might try giving Microsoft support a call.
0
0
Anonymous
New Member
•
25.7K Messages
11 years ago
0
0
Ponzi
Mentor
•
44 Messages
11 years ago
OK, that's a generally true statement. But you didn't answer the question I posed.
Exactly which Xbox updates released since 2011 would have rendered Microsoft's current recommendations about port-forwarding outdated? That's your claim. If you can't support the claim you made with any specificity, then you shouldn't discourage people from following Microsoft's own recommendations to solve NAT problems.
0
oufanindallas
ACE - Master
•
6.9K Messages
11 years ago
I don't have an XBox, but I would definately follow microsoft's recommendation since it's their product.
0
Anonymous
New Member
•
25.7K Messages
11 years ago
0
0
Ponzi
Mentor
•
44 Messages
11 years ago
Unbelievable. Greg, please stop spreading misinformation based upon any prejudice you may have against Microsoft. This is indeed Microsoft's recommendation:
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live/connecting/network-ports-used-xbox-live
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-live/connecting/nat-type-strict
0
nephipower
Scholar
•
101 Messages
11 years ago
I think the one thing we know for sure is that in gregzoll's mind his opinion is law
0
0
Anonymous
New Member
•
25.7K Messages
11 years ago
The whole reason Microsoft posted that info, was the problems with the original Xbox platform, and original Xbox-360 1st gen. The problems have been resolved with port issues, with later firmware updates and the later platforms for the Xbox-360.
0
0