04-21-2013 12:16 PM
I have moved to a new place and would like to watch pre-recorded shows while getting my new service in place. Is it possible to move the STB/Receiver and Gateway to the new place, run stand alone and still be able to watch the shows recorded in the STB?
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04-27-2013 10:41 PM
Never stated that Youtube enforces DRM, so do not really know where in the world you pulled that one from.
You can't even follow what's going on here. My point #1 above is MY reason that your argument can't be correct. It is not something I claim you said. Good Lord.
DVR's from other providers, can enforce non-playback when the network is down if they choose
That is exactly the point. If other DVR providers can choose whether or not to apply DRM, why couldn't AT&T and/or Microsoft choose whether to apply DRM? You can't have it both ways. Why would DirecTV/Dish Network/Comcast be able to choose DRM enforcement, but AT&t/Microsoft are forced to apply DRM enforcement?
As for the delivery mechanism, I have already linked the information from Cisco, and also linked another if you wish to pay for the White paper @ $30, if you wish.
he Encryptonite ONE System ... [snip]
Where in any of that does it say that DRM is required? It doesn't. It only says that it's supported should the distrubution provider WANT to use it. Dude, the Cisco stuff is an advertisement to the distributors -- it's purpose is to make a sale. Of course Cisco will highlight everything the boxes are capable of, but the distributor doesn't HAVE to use every feature. You know, Cisco makes models of their IPTV boxes that also take an antenna input. Does that mean that the distributor is REQUIRED to support the antenna input? They also make the boxes' USB ports with the ability to use external hard drives. Does that mean that the distributor is REQUIRED to enable the use of external hard drives? Hint: No. The distributor can use or not use whatever features they want to.
Microsoft and/or AT&T have chosen to use the DRM feature to prevent pre-recorded DVR content playback. But they didn't HAVE to. They could have just as easily made it so that you could playback the pre-recorded DVR content.
THAT is my question to you, and is the exact reason that you have not proven anything. Prove to me that pre-recorded DVR content playback is technically impossible on an IPTV system. CIte any document you want that states that outright. (Hint: there is no such document or statement, because it isn't true.)
Walk me through the technical scenario where it becomes impossible. Tell me what's happening in the software code, tell me what's going on inside the box. Describe to me why you think this is a technical impossibility. Don't show us another sales flyer from some company or a generic description of a DRM system. I know how they work, I don't need some pretty sales graphic. YOU describe to me how the system cannot possiby do this, from a techincal level. Put your money where your mouth is and prove to everyone here that you are more than a poser with some sales flyers and technospeak.
To give you a head start on the technical description, I'll first describe to you exactly how DirecTV does it:
Now, you tell me why this same type of functionality is a technical impossibility in AT&T/Microsoft's system. You prove to me that it isn't a design choice (by someone), but is instead a technical impossibility.
04-28-2013 4:40 AM
I have no idea what you 2 are talking about but it sounds like you need to hug it out.
04-28-2013 7:24 AM
Not to throw a wrench into this debate but my daughter lost connectivity on her TW Cable during storms last night and was able to still watch DVR'ed content.
I found this on the internet about TW Cable's DVR's:
|If the box has been unplugged from electricity after a service disconnect, it will not be able to load the software and therefore you will not be able to access the software to playback recorded programs.
If the box is still plugged in, it will playback even if the service is disconnected.
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04-28-2013 8:01 AM
The problem is that Greg is smart on some things, but just plain wrong on others such as this topic and will not admit it when he is. No one is disputing the fact that Microsoft did not invent IPTV, the issue is, AT&T worked with Microsoft and Cisco to build equipment for UVerse that requires a connection to be able to view recorded programs. It's not a requirement of IPTV, but it's an AT&T limitation/requirement.
04-28-2013 8:05 AM
Now, everyone, let's keep on topic here and not fall down that hole into arguing the situation. Do some research and prove it without arguing or we can just agree to disagree and move on.
01-06-2018 12:35 PM
I believe that you are incorrect SomeJoe7777 expert "That's incorrect, Greg. It does indeed have to do with the choice made by Microsoft, and it has nothing to do with IPTV systems design.".
It still has everything to do with the IPTV system design that ATT contracts from a vendor (MS, etc.). In order to provide good and proper customer service to their paying (a LOT of $$$$) customers ATT could and should require from MS (or whomever vendor's DVR platform they are using) the ability of it's customers to use the DVR when the cable system is temporarily out. If ATT is worried that some devious customers may use this feature to 'steal' service/movies when their uverse account is closed by disconnecting the cable before ending service; ATT could merely require from their IPTV vendor to put a time limit (say one week of no IPTV unit connection to ATT mother ship) on the feature. This way ATT could (and should) provide the 99.999999999% of paying customers proper customer service and not worry about the .00000000001% unscrupulous thieves that may take advantage and might be able to watch recorded movies (that they probably recorded when the were paying customers) for whatever amount of time limit ATT decided so that the 99.999999% of paying customers would suffer less inconvenience whenever their cable was temporarily out. Respectfully; It's as they say a 'no-brainer'.
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We won’t even talk about having to ignore the amount of your time that the vendor providing the IPTV system MICROSOFT) ‘steals’ from their Windows customers when dealing with their Windows operating system bugs and deficiencies on COUNTLESS occasions . . .
01-06-2018 12:55 PM
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