Using AirPort Extreme as main wireless point with Residential Gateway along with Airport Express?

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Using AirPort Extreme as main wireless point with Residential Gateway along with Airport Express?

Hi all,

 

I currently am using the RG as the main wireless point with an AirPort Extreme in bridge mode for wireless printing with the printer that is connected to the AirPort.

 

What I would like to do is flip it so that the AirPort would be my main wireless network point with the RG acting as the high-speed modem. I envision having the phone, high speed, and set top boxes connected to the RG with all of the computers and printers connected to the AirPort.

 

What would be the recommended way of connecting this. I have a limited experience in networking, so feel free to talk step-by-step. In addition, I have an AirPort Express that I would like to connect to a DirecTV set top box that I would like to be able to connect to the internet through the Extreme. 

 

Thanks for any advice or suggestions.

 

Ed

 

 

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I had a working Netgear wireless access point on my home network before I had Uverse installed.  Since it offered "N" capability and was working flawlessly, I saw no need for the wireless capability in the RG, so I just disabled it.  I'm assuming that's all you need to do as well.  I.E. go into the wireless settings on the RG and set "Wireless Access Point" to "disabled".

 

 

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As Folk indicated, just turn off the wireless in the RG and set the AE as an access point (turn off NAT/DHCP) and turn on the AE wireless.

 

I do this with mine except I put my AE in the DMZ and use its NAT/DHCP because I need to utilize Apple's Back to my Mac feature to access multiple Macs at home from wherever I might be. Since the RG does not support UPnP, I cannot use it alone. Plus, the RG does not support 'N' speeds which the AE does.

 

Dlck

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Folk,

 

Thanks for the information. Have you lost any capabilities by abandoning the RG as your wireless connection?

 

Ed

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Thanks for the information. I assume that I would just need to plug the RG into the WAN port on the AirPort  Extreme? And for the AirPort Express, I would just join that to the AirPort Extreme network?

 

Ed

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Eyost wrote:

Have you lost any capabilities by abandoning the RG as your wireless connection?


 

I already had a working wireless access point, so I just continued to use it and disabled the one built into the RG. Since I had never used the RG's wireless capabilities, there were no capabilities to lose.

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Your connections are correct for the RG, Airport Extreme and Airport Express.

 

Dlck

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Excellent. On a related note, in the event that I disable the wireless piece from the RG and want to restore it, what is the recommended way to restore the settings to default?

 

Thanks,

 

Ed

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The simple way and the one I use is just to turn off the wireless radio in the RG and then turn it back on if you want to use it.

Go to http://192.168.1.254/xslt?PAGE=C_2_1 and set the Wireless Interface as either Enabled or Disabled.

 

Dlck

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Thanks so much! I'll work on the changes in the next bit.

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When you say "use the airport's NAT/DHCP" are you using the bridge function or distributing DHCP, or (I assume) using the single IP address with wireless clients using DHCP and NAT?  And if it's the single IP address with NAT/DHCP, what other configuration do you need for security?  Thanks.

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mjwilly wrote:

When you say "use the airport's NAT/DHCP" are you using the bridge function or distributing DHCP, or (I assume) using the single IP address with wireless clients using DHCP and NAT?  And if it's the single IP address with NAT/DHCP, what other configuration do you need for security?  Thanks.


Bridge mode on the AEBS makes it a fancy wireless access point which is easy to tell your ip will start with 192. if in bridge if it is in NAT it will start with 10. On the setup select distribute ip instead of bridge and set the RG in DMZ.

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oz_1 wrote:

Bridge mode on the AEBS makes it a fancy wireless access point which is easy to tell your ip will start with 192. if in bridge if it is in NAT it will start with 10. On the setup select distribute ip instead of bridge and set the RG in DMZ.


Please explain in detail, step by step.

 

I am using the Apple Extreme as the wireless as described, a "fancy WAP" now by turning off the Wireless but would like to use my router to distribute IP addresses instead of ATT's RG for the sake of speed (802.11n/ac @ 1GbE) instead of 802.11b/g @ 100GbE.

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First I am using a Time Capsule same thing as an Airport Extreme but with a built in networking drive and I take full use of 802.11 a,b,g and n with the dual radios that simultaneously broadcast.

You will not gain any speed by making it your router but you will lose the function of seeing everything on your LAN if put behind the RG such as the DVR .

I run mine set up in bridge mode that allows me the wireless speed between my devices on my LAN.

To repeat setting up the AE as your router will not increase your speed through the WAN and g is very adequate for the size pipe that AT&T currently has.

802.11ac functions no matter how you set it up if you have the newest computers with that capability and its worth the price of admission througput is more than twice as much which make file transfers way nicer the larger the size.

So before we set this up in anything other than bridge mode what function is it that you need there are trade offs .

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