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How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router.  I posted this question earlier and received a response from AT&T that was incorrect and based on old software.  Please post the correct information.

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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

@garry4690

Please advise as to the type and model of your router.

 

I just viewed your previous post and my question is why do you want a bridge solution?

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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

Linksys E2500
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‎03-07-2017 5:14 PM

Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

To make use of your Linksys the best way to accomplish is as follows:

  1. Perform a factory reset to the Linksys
  2. With nothing else connected to Linksys connect a PC to any non-WAN port of linksys (If WiFi is active after a factory reset, you should be able to connect that way as well)
  3. Configure the Linksys for DHCP and change the LAN/WiFi IP addressing for an IP network other than 192.168.1.0, say 192.168.2.0, because the 5268ac uses a 192.168.1.0 Class C network.
  4. At this point you can cable up the Linksys to the 5268ac if you want or continue to configure Linksys, your choice

Should you get any warning messages from the 5268ac or att.net about having a cascaded router, you will then have to put your Linksys in the DMZ of the 5268ac firewall.

 

Since you have not expressed why you wanted "bridge mode", I ignored.

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Teacher

Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

This worked.  Thank you.

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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

I thought you could not put 5268AC in bridge mode, that you had to use the DMZ.  Your advice seems to indicate that it might be possible

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Professor

Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router


@superdaveryan wrote:

I thought you could not put 5268AC in bridge mode, that you had to use the DMZ.  Your advice seems to indicate that it might be possible


@superdaveryan

With the 5268ac you can use downstream devices that are cascaded or bridged from the 5268ac LAN, Ethernet and WiFi. A bridged device typically just extends the 5268ac LAN network where a cascaded device creates a new LAN network.

 

A device using the DMZ capability of the 5268ac will assume the internet IP address that the 5268ac is given and believe that it's actually on the internet, bypassing the 5268ac but that is only what the 5268ac wants it to believe. One of the problems in using the DMZ is that the device may not be compatible with the protocols exchanged with the 5268ac and the upstream AT&T router. When I put my Apple Airport Extreme in the DMZ the speed test showed a significant drop in speeds and a multitude of errors in the 5268ac logs.

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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

I just got the new Google Mesh 3-point system, and was told by support that I should bridge my ATT 5268AC to let the smart mesh control flow? I am subscribed for Giga fiber, and the mesh shows this, but only get 1/10 of the shown speed when testing with speednet. Any advice?
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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

The short answer is you can't.  I am not positive in what you are saying, but sounds like you need to ATT hardware to function as a modem, for lack of a better term and product, vs. a fiber gateway and router and simply put, ATT won't allow it.  Don't waste your time.  You are going to run into trouble with Google and ATT blaming the issue on each other and leaving you hours on the phone with folks that can't push a broom.  The best you can get is to have your product be a step down to the att hardware and they will never play nice together.  The consumer can't get descent and published wireless speeds from ATT just using their own product, much less adding additional networking equipment. 

 

My advice is ditch att -[Per Guidelines:  Keep it Relevant and Appropriate]. them. This is the most incompetent group of people in one location I have ever seen and it starts at the top. Even Att does not understand their security protocols, which have been poor  since the start of the service many years ago. Even if you get the mesh working the relationship between the fiber and the wireless will never work as well (with Att service) as Coaxial cable and wireless - Att will always blame this on somebody else - change ISP while you have some sanity left. Even if this is all you worked on for 12 hours a day, it would require all of your time and never be fixed. Also, understood that they really don’t have 1000 meg down - the majority of the routing to the destination never even gets close to 1000 down - notice on a speed test how that needle climbs slowly and takes forever to reach maybe 870 down? - Good luck -

 

Wireless is even worse.

 

 

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ACE - Expert

Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

@Jujubeans69, what you should be able to do is to log into the U-verse Gateway and configure your Mesh system in the DMZplus configuration.  That is as close to "bridge mode" as you can get.  A few more details in the solution in this thread.

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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

Ive got a Netgear Nighthawk R8000, downstream of that P-O-S Pace 5268AC gateway.  I recently, upgraded to AT&Ts 1Gbs service.  When I run my PC directly to the gateway, I get close to 1Gbs, but when I have the Nighawk router in between, it maxes out at about 300.

 

Interestingly, if I put the ethernet cable into one of the LAN ports on the Nighthawk, instead of the INTERNET port, I am able to get close to the 1Gbs on a PC wired to another LAN port, but then the Nighthawk's functions are unavailable, e.g., all WiFi shows "No Internet" and I cannot access the menus.

 

Suggestions?

 

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ACE - Expert

Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

I see several posts about performance issues with the WAN interface on the R8000. This router was released originally prior to many people having gigabit connections. I'm imagining that the router code needs some optimization. If you have traffic counters you may wish to turn that off, and play with QoS.  Check your firmware version as well.

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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

Thank you for taking the time to answer; but the solution is to change providers.  ATT couldn't manage dial up, much less this service.  Their most advanced technology solutions at anytime, have always been years behind.  Their lack of intelligence and greed is facilitated by security policies, which prevent them from having to do anything.  When UVERSE first launched, the security protocols were behind the times.  Their failings, and they are massive, in high speed, is a symptom of a monopoly that was simply in the right place, at the time of deregulation.  Years ago, if you got the right tech on the phone, you could get a work around the issues which have always caused their internet products to fall drastically short, relative to their advertising.  Don't get me started on their throttling of IOS devices.  

 

In conclusion, for all readers, the user can have a customer purchased router that will not hit the market for 20 years. (the best of the best, govt. defense type stuff)  As long as that ATT gateway, is the first stop after the termination of the fiber line, (required) the router will never perform beyond the desires of ATT.  Even with a PhD in the open source router firmware technologies available free today, which is no small chunk of learning, the improvements are minimal after hours of trial and error.  Solution:  don't waste your money on a 400 dollar router in conjunction with ATT service; go back to cable or wait for Google to get to you.  I found the interim solution to be taking the switch provided by ATT to me and moving it to another part of the house and going old school and hardwire everything with cords galore around the house and knowing that your portable devices should all have cellular capability going forward.  (ipads, etc)  Even with the TV or DVD or other streaming device hard wired and all other connections not being used, HD streaming service is lacking in performance 20-30% of the time.  Like all big companies, they will blame Netflix or Amazon; best to only let the situation cause you minor aggravation.  (if you can) 

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ACE - Expert

Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

I'm sorry you were unhappy with AT&T superdaveryan, and I'm sorry that you're still so bitter six months later that you write multi-page diatribes that assume many facts not held in evidence.  There are some issues with interoperability with some routers and some Gateways, often the required configuration settings are not obvious.

You should note that this user was able to get the expected speeds through his router if he avoided his router's WAN interface.

 

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Re: How do I use my own router with the 5268AC router

JefferMC, rather than attack superdaveryan, why not proffer a solution - if you can - to the fundamental problem: how to utilize the full capability of a third-party router with the behind-the-curve AT&T Pace 5268AC Gateway?

 

That is the question all of us who reach this search destination would like answered.

 

I'd like to improve the wi-fi signal through my home using my Netgear Nighthawk R7000 router (and choose my own DNS server) in cooperation with the Pace 5268AC Gateway acting as a "pass through" internet receiver. How do I accomplish this, Mr. ACE Expert?

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