03-16-2011 2:23 PM
ATT USERS BEWARE!
ATT is setting a limits on the amount of Download (Bandwith) you can use for DSL subscribers CNN posted this MSG today in its tech section. TELL ATT this wont be tolerated. If your like me watching vids via netflix, or CNN news streaming media or online gaming (Flight Sim X online) you will meet this limit very fast and be forced to pay more with 10.00 per every 50GB downloaded. Please help us reverse ATT decision on this poor choice.
CALL / EMAIL ATT AND SAY NO TO THIS POLICY!
(WIRED) -- AT&T broadband users will soon face a cap on the amount of internet data they can download a month.
Traditional DSL users will be capped at 150 GB per month, while subscribers to the fiber-backed UVerse system have a 250-GB limit. Usage over that will be charged at $10/month for 50 GB, the company says.
The company says that currently only a small percentage of users -- around 2% -- use this much data a month. If that's the case, it's not clear why the company is bothering to install the caps.
It is, however, the same rationale (and the same usage stat) that the company relied upon to explain why it would be capping iPhone data plans last summer, which had hitherto been "unlimited."
DSL and UVerse connect fairly directly to a hub -- unlike cable connections where users share a local loop that can become congested. Bulk-bandwidth costs for an ISP are a tiny portion of its business costs, and those prices continue to fall even as users consume more and more data.
So, how could a user end up hitting these caps? Streaming video such as HD movies from Netflix, using bittorrent to download movies and heavy gaming with services like Steam can easily eat up lots of data, especially in households with multiple heavy internet users.
Time Warner Cable tried going further with trials of a service that imposed very low limits for users, which led to a furor among users and lawmakers.
There's little data to demonstrate whether large ISPs actually are experiencing real issues with congestion. Skeptics see the limits as ways to discourage cable video customers from "cutting the cord" and getting their video online, or as a way to pocket profits instead of re-investing in bulking up their infrastructure.
Derek Turner, the research director for the net neutrality advocacy group Free Press says the limits will discourage online innovation, and that with the growth curve of internet usage, the limits will soon catch many internet user.
"When ISPs force their customers to watch the meter, experimentation, innovation and business will suffer," Turner said.
"AT&T's actions are another troubling symptom of a broadband market that lacks meaningful competition, and this move may be the start of a race to the bottom among other providers to see who can squeeze its customers the most. At worst, this is a plan designed to discourage cord-cutting and pad profits; at best, this is another example of an antiquated phone-company business model being forced onto an otherwise vibrant and limitless marketplace."
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03-22-2011 6:44 AM
I can confirm the oversell part... DSL in my neighborhood you used to be able to get up to the 6Mb plans... We always had the 3Mb and every now and then I would login to see if they had any upgrade specials... Well, one day the 6Mb plan dissapeared! Trying some other home addresses they would only offer 3Mb!!!! That's PATHETIC, especially compared to what Comcast offers (Now with Docsis 3 in our area we can get 50Mb!)...
Back on the subject of caps.... What if we don't agree to their change in the TOS? Does that mean we can keep our unlimited bandwidth, or will they drop us as a customer? I fully plan on sending a letter back saying that I don't agree to their new TOS, and if they want to drop me then it's them that will be terminating my contract and I do not expect to see any crazy early termination fees...
03-22-2011 7:10 AM
The 'tool' is useless. The data it has for last month shows I used much more than my own meter and I'm on a single machine with no wireless activity. In addition to 'over metering' usage, the information updates more than 4 days later and apparently is collected only weekly UNTIL you go over the amount; you're already screwed at that point. In the very least, the users need ACCURATE data collected and displayed in REAL TIME, but this is not the case. This is certainly a reason to call and move down a tier for speed; what's the point of paying more money for more speed you can't use without a penalty.
03-23-2011 6:37 AM
This is awful I stream all kinds of games using ESPN3 that comes with getting Uverse now I will have to count how much bandwidth me watching a game is going to eat up every weekend? Att is just leaving me with a bad taste in my mouth on all fronts now.
03-24-2011 1:19 AM - edited 03-24-2011 1:54 AM
I'll be looking into Sonic.net here in the Bay Area if AT&T decides to implement the cap. Sonic seems to be doing good things around here with Google while keeping prices competitive. Check out this article:
And CEO of Sonic responds to AT&T's cap:
And interesting interview:
03-24-2011 1:42 PM
If AT&T puts a cap on my service I will go somewhere else like bright house .I say no to the cap. I went about 2 months of outage.and didn't get credit.Say no to the cap. Fire AT&T
03-24-2011 2:14 PM - edited 03-24-2011 2:15 PM
I have and I don't like the new terms at all. I will drop. I have dropped my cell service and land-line so I guess the internet will be next. Like everyone else I just started to get netflex .I called the cable co. which is BrightHouse to get a price.Told them when AT&T STARTED THE CAP I WILL BE CALLING THEM BACK TO INSTALL.THEN I WILL FIRE at&t.IT WILL COST ME ALITTLE MORE, BUT IT WILL BE WORTH IT JUST TO SAY NO TO AT&T.iREPLACED ATT CELL WITH STRAIGHT TALK AND I ALSO GOT MAGIC JACK ................ lOVE IT.
03-24-2011 4:01 PM
I will cancel when they implement this cap on bandwidth usage, this is outrageous! Me and my wife use the internet daily and we are heavy internet users we watch a lot of tv episodes online, play a lot of video games, and watch a lot of my HD movies through Netflix, I also upload a lot of files to our website every month, and do a lot of debugging. I used to think AT&T's U-Verse DSL service was the best around but all that has changed now. Very, very disappointed.
I used to have U-Verse TV but canceled due to their high prices and decided to go with netflix and online instead. I would not be surprisedif the next thing they put a cap on is how many hours of Uverse-TV people can watch. Ex: 150hrs/month 120 channels for $60/month, add 50 hrs more for $20 more..... I can see that coming.
03-24-2011 5:43 PM
AT&T sent me a link to their new terms of service indicating the cap on data transfers. I plan to drop them as my Internet, telephone and mobile service provider ASAP. I never wanted to be an AT&T customer to begin with, but they bought up my former providers.
03-24-2011 8:47 PM
Let's just say if the cap it, I'm out too. 30usd laggy internet. Drips during prime time (5pm~10pm). High ping. Techs don't know what is wrong with it. Etc.
03-25-2011 9:33 AM
I am dropping my service as well, as soon as I can get set up with CDE Lightband in my area. I have unbearably slow speeds from about 4pm-11pm daily, have internet disconnects, and now a cap. I had been holding out for U-Verse, figuring new lines would help with some of the former issues and that I'd be able to switch to the tv service as well. However, now with the caps...forget about it.
I can get unlimited 10Meg upload and download speeds for $34.95 a month. This means I can continue to move forward with technology and not be stifled at usage limits. We have multiple computers and console games and obviously, multiple users in the home.
I am aggravated enough at this point to not only cancel my home phone and internet service, but my wireless service as well.
03-25-2011 5:04 PM
The answer to the problem is not to bail and go elsewhere, the answer is to stand your ground and fight. AT&T sold more DSL accounts than their network can handle. Guess what? They're still selling them to anyone willing to pay!!!!!!! Even when their network is known to be overloaded, AT&T will sign you up for a new DSL account without batting an eye. Then they start limiting how much you can use because they dont have the bandwidth to provide all those NEW ACCOUNTS THEY"RE STILL SIGNING UP EVERY DAY!!!!!
The FCC are the only ones that can remedy this issue. Don't bail and end up with the same thing eventually happening elsewhere. File a complaint with the FCC and make AT&T provide you with what you are paying for. They can't just change the rules to suit them right in the middle of the game. There are laws and regulations against this type of treatment towards consumers. Make your Gov do their job, and dont let AT&T trample all over your rights!
If AT&T has $39 billion to spend buying out a competitor, then they have $39 billion to instead spend to fix what they already have, and they should be forced to do so instead of screwing the consumer while they keep loading their pockets without having to provide what they offer.
03-26-2011 11:08 AM
First off, let me say I really hope someone in the AT&T organization actually reads these forums.
Secondly, I happen to live in an area where AT&T is my ONLY internet option, unless, of course, I go with a satellite hook-up, not a very good solution. I'm currently in the military, been in Iraq for 11 months now, I'll be home next month. I need to ask, are you kidding me? You seriously want to cap my internet usage? I got the email today. Sorry to say, but No SIR!
When I get home I'm building a new computer, my little present to myself for a year here. What do you think I'm going to use it for?? Mostly the internet! I watch netflix, I like youtube, I browse tech forums, and occasionally I like to play a game or 2. Not a "power user", but I do spend some time on the internet. I have older children that play games, my wife is enrolled in an online school. EVERYTHING IS ONLINE! This is the year 2011 for pete's sake!
Capping internet usage these days is like rationing gas...telling me I can only drive so many miles a month. Are you kidding? Obviously you are. What's the point of internet service in 2011 if you can't take advantage of EVERYTHING on it? I've put up with junk service for a long time, and now you're going to make it worse.
I think you should maybe quit blaming "power users" for your problems, and fix your system. Last time I checked, the US is a free country. I should know, I've spent over half my life making sure it is. Unlimited internet is something we should be entitled to, especially in our high tech society. I've spent the last year on the worst connections possible, and was really looking forward to movies when I want them, building and updating my system, watching HULU, and maybe getting an internet TV. Can't do that now...why? Because some company is telling me I can only use 150GB a month. You're "average" user today isn't the guys that check email and leave. It's the younger generation, where they do everything online.
No Sir, this is not ok with me. I do not agree with the User Agreement in it's new form. Yeah I get it, I don't agree, I won't have internet service. Well, you know what, that isn't acceptable, either. I propose you find a new solution that everyone can live with. I'll be home this time next month, and plan on using A LOT of my UNLIMITED service.