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Tue, Aug 9, 2011 10:50 PM

Longhorn Network - Just say 'No'

I greatly appreciate the value provided by AT&T in bundling tv/wireless/internet services.  Similarly, the bundling of channels allows customers to access a variety of programming at substantial savings.

 

However, occasionally, programming comes along that is so expensive and directed at such a narrow, niche market that it deserves to be left off of the programming options or ordered solely as an 'a la carte' option.  If the reports about the price tag  to cable providers  to offer the 'longhorn network' (by ESPN) are accurate, the only way it could be added to current bundled programming packages is at substantial cost to MANY people who have no interest in the programming. 

 

Please AT&T, keep prices low, by either not offering or charging ONLY those who desire this programming option.

 

Thanks!

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9 years ago

Don't let me see ANY of you haters walking down the street (and some of you live in Austin).

 

crap station? Go on and eat your cornbread and cry yourself to sleep watching your Travel channel Man vs. Food. 

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9 years ago

Don't add it to the U200 package as you will lose me. Make it an add-on, if anyone really wants this crap station.

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Exactly. Let the teasips support their own network. Don't make it automatic for everyone.

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9 years ago

No way would i stand for uverse to add this to any package.  I would cancel immediatly and well as all my family members.

Please don't push this on us.

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9 years ago

I wasn't aware of any campaign until you posted your link, but even so, how do you explain the fact that its an outrageous cost for just one school. I would be happy to hear an explanation of the difference in costs as I laid it out earlier in a more accurate comparison to the Big 10 network.

 

Big 10 network = $.07 per school

LHN = $.40

 

Assume inflation and a discount for having multiple schools on at one time and raise it to $.10 a school, it is still 4x more to get the LHN. On top of that, the Big 10 network gets me a ton more games to watch, football and other sports, with the LHN, all I get is the Rice game and only UT's other sports - so you are getting even less than you would with the conference network.

 

Conspiracy, campaign, whatever you want to call it, it makes no sense financially, which is why no other school has attempted to do this. The LHN will fail because the cable providers wont be able to sell the product - at least not at the rate required for ESPN to profit enough to pay UT. 

 

My Original estimation, in case you never read it...

"Big 10 network carries the games of an entire conference, so its really absurd to compare the prices. Maybe if you divide the $0.70 the Big 10 network was charging by the number of teams that were available at that time (11) you get less than 7 cents per school.

 

So at 40 cents you are paying over 500% more per school to watch the longhorn network. NO THANK YOU!"

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9 years ago

another vote against adding the LHN to a package.  should stand on its own and optional for those that want it.

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9 years ago

Houston U-verse subscriber here and I do not want this added to my U200 package as I have no desire to subsidize this channel. If the Longhorn Network isn't made a premium option of some type I'll start to look at my other options for cable tv and internet service.

 

texasguy37

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9 years ago


@okghal wrote:

 

Conspiracy, campaign, whatever you want to call it, it makes no sense financially, which is why no other school has attempted to do this. The LHN will fail because the cable providers wont be able to sell the product - at least not at the rate required for ESPN to profit enough to pay UT. 


Have you ever hear of Brigham Young University Television (BYU TV)?

texasguy37

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9 years ago

By the way, Notre Dame also plans to launch it's own network, so you guys can start gearing up your campaign to oppose it.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/730927-notre-dame-ad-swarbrick-will-have-her-own-television-network

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9 years ago

Is BYU TV on Uverse?  If so, I haven't noticed it yet.  Neither BYU TV nor the LHN should be on a base package like U200.  If people want either of these they should be an add-on feature.

 

 

texasguy37

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Also, Oklahoma wants to launch it's own network soon.  You guys have your work cut out for!

 

http://www.examiner.com/oklahoma-sooners-in-oklahoma-city/oklahoma-sooners-television-network-coming-2011

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9 years ago

Agreed, this is a niche channel and should not be forced on everyone. Notice how there is exactly one person defending this network, and his username is texasguy. Every UT grad I know has no interest in watching UT track, tennis, golf, etc...why would the rest of the state (and outlying areas) be interested?

texasguy37

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@jdop09 wrote:

 

Agreed, this is a niche channel and should not be forced on everyone. Notice how there is exactly one person defending this network, and his username is texasguy. Every UT grad I know has no interest in watching UT track, tennis, golf, etc...why would the rest of the state (and outlying areas) be interested?


I'm defending nothing.  I am providing facts as opposed to propaganda that has no basis in fact.

 

Also, perhaps you have not learned to not tune to channels in your TV package that you have no interest in watching, or do you watch all the channels in the package that you currently receive?

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9 years ago

I hadnt heard of it until now, I appreciate the information, but do you also know how much are the school is getting paid, and how much the subscribers have to pay for it? I would bet that it is nowhere near the $.40 price tag the LHN is asking.

 

The problem is not having a network by itself, it's the cost to the subscriber, and the operating costs associated with it. Due to the ESPN contract with UT for $15M / year, the costs are too high for it to be sustainable with only one football game and the coverage of only one school available for content.

 

 


 

texasguy37

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I have no idea of the price per subscriber paid by TV providers for BYU TV or what the price would be for either the Notre Dame Network or the Oklahoma Sooners Network.

 

Also, in 2012 the Pac 12 Conference will be launching a national network and six regional networks.  I would expect another campaign to be launched by those opposed adding those channels since they have no interest in the Pac 12 Conference; therefore, no one should have access to those channels.

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9 years ago

So I was searching the BYU Tv site and it is all available for free...see for yourself at http://byutv.org/

 

It appears that the content is provided for free and they likely only have to cover their production costs with any advertising money that they recieve...therefore there is no way they are clearing the millions of dollars that the LHN is trying to make. Again, the problem is not having a network, its the exhorbitant costs that ESPN is now trying to recover to make it a viable business venture.

 

Passing the costs on to subscribers who do not demand it is the only way it can be done, and the only way for those of us who dont want to pay for it can speak up is to voice our opinions in forums such as this.

 

I am sure they will find a way for it to stay alive, but it doesnt seem that it will be a profitable endeavour for ESPN or UT at this point, not without gaining rights to more than one football game or if the NCAA allows the airing of high school games, which seems unlikely at this point.

 

FYI, you can watch the BYU upset of OU streaming online...

http://byutv.org/watch/19515364-3e5f-4283-8db1-ebf6a75cd2c1

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