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Wed, Apr 17, 2019 7:27 AM

When is 3G being shutdown?

I have a 3G ZTE Z222 of which I'm fond.   My friends with Sprint have been notified of an imminent Sprint 3G shutdown. I searched that topic on this forum and found that my phone will be good till 12/2012 or "such time as there is a national shutdown."  I need something more specific as flip-phones are getting scarcer by the week, and the only 3G flip-phone offered by AT&T right now is, bluntly, junk.   How imminent is a national shutdown?

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@quadriped ATT is shutting down the 3G network to make room for 4G LTE and 5G network. Think ATT will furnish new compatible phones like they did when the shut down their 2G network. 

 

https://www.mobileworldlive.com/featured-content/top-three/att-upgrades-3g-spectrum-to-5g/

 

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@quadriped wrote:

That's OK, I rarely follow the trend, and I'm too mature to care what others think of me.   My phone is small enough to fit into my pocket, and I have a landline and 3 desktop computers at home.  I work from home online, and I don't want to be connected 24/7.  I (and most of my friends) will wait till we're forced into it, and then I would use it only for phone calls anyway. I bought  a GPS for my car already.  


Nothing wrong with that.  ATT does sell 2 flip phones that have 4g LTE in them so you should be future proof if you get one of those.

 

This one is a perfect example https://www.att.com/buy/phones/xp3-8gb-black.html

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https://www.att.com/buy/phones/att-cingular-flip-2-4gb-dark-gray.html

 

 

 

 

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There will be LTE flip phones available well before 3g shuts down. You have more than a year before you have to worry about it.   Verizon already had them last year and they are shutting CDMA down at end of this year.   

 

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@lizdance40 wrote:

There will be LTE flip phones available well before 3g shuts down. You have more than a year before you have to worry about it.   Verizon already had them last year and they are shutting CDMA down at end of this year.   

 


ATT is only selling LTE flip phones just like verizon.  ATT's do have 3g in them tho.

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@lizdance40 wrote:
@Delcat13Tay  FIRST CHOICE 
 
 Best Buy has about a dozen unlocked phones that are compatible with AT&T, and a few work on Verizon, and are also world phones.  
     AT&T does sell some dirt cheap, and occasionally free with activation, prepaid phones.  In general, I discourage buying phones from AT&T because of the 6 month lock policy.  (Truth be told, I discourage buying from AT&T no matter what)
    If a traveler does come to the USA with an incompatible phone and feels buying a phone they can use back home, Verizon has a much better policy if you buy from them, and most of their prepaid phones aren’t as limited, hardware wise (CHECK SPECS).  60 days after activation a Verizon prepaid phone is unlocked, even if you aren’t paying for a second month if service.  


Still a bit of a hassle for many of us, though.  For travelers from countries where dual-SIM is a common (or in some cases, standard) feature in phones sold there (especially in Asia), it is more practical for them to buy a local SIM card upon arriving at their destination and insert it in the second SIM slot, while keeping their home network SIM roaming and inside the first SIM slot.

 

That being said, as new dual-SIM phones across all price ranges now feature dual-VoLTE and are capable of receiving LTE signals on both SIMs simultaneously (as opposed to older phones where only one SIM at a time can receive LTE signals, while the other SIM remains at 2G/3G), it is high time that AT&T open up its LTE network to ALL phones that support any of its LTE bands.  As I mentioned earlier, most budget and midrange phones sold outside the US (especially Chinese brands like Xiaomi [including Redmi], Huawei [including Honor], BBK Electronics' brands [Oppo, Vivo and Realme, which are all Oneplus' sister brands] and Meizu, among others) support the 850 MHz band on 3G, and LTE band 5, while flagship and "flagship killer" models support even more (but usually not all) US LTE bands.  Refarming the remaining 850 Mhz spectrum on 3G to LTE band 5 (and opening up AT&T's LTE network to all phones) will significantly help in making sure that international travelers can use their phones in the US, whether by roaming on AT&T's network, using an AT&T prepaid SIM, or both.


You need to understand how spectrum is used in the USA they are just not going to shut down 850mhz 3g and make it LTE..  Most markets are actually 1900mhz 3g...  The US is a hodge podge of spectrum that each carrier owns some of in different areas.  In a 40 mile drive to work I see bands 2,5,12, and 30 across the drive.

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That date should be 2021, not 2012.

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Thanks, that's very helpful. So the bottom line is I should start shopping for a new phone before the end of the year?

But if ATT offers me only a smartphone, I'll switch to another carrier. Or I'll buy a 4G flip-phone before they switch. I have no use for those oversized, bloated electronic toys.

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@quadriped 

 

Before long even flip phones are going to be smartphones.  You are in the 3% that don't want a smartphone.

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That's OK, I rarely follow the trend, and I'm too mature to care what others think of me.   My phone is small enough to fit into my pocket, and I have a landline and 3 desktop computers at home.  I work from home online, and I don't want to be connected 24/7.  I (and most of my friends) will wait till we're forced into it, and then I would use it only for phone calls anyway. I bought  a GPS for my car already.  

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GLIMMERMAN76

The first is actually a smart-phone, and way beyond my budget.  I called and the only one they have now is the Cingular Flip2.  I know the feature phones have already disappeared from some other sites or been replaced with junk.  I'll wait till my current 3-month payment is due to expire and decide then.

 

What's CDMA and LTE?

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@quadriped wrote:

GLIMMERMAN76

The first is actually a smart-phone, and way beyond my budget.  I called and the only one they have now is the Cingular Flip2.  I know the feature phones have already disappeared from some other sites or been replaced with junk.  I'll wait till my current 3-month payment is due to expire and decide then.

 

What's CDMA and LTE?


I am trying to figure out how 189 is to high.  Its not a gophone so it has the real retail price is all.  Its not a smartphone tho as its running sonims own software.  It does use android but after playing with one its not a smartphone.

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I'm trying to explain this politely, since other people's financial situations are beyond your understanding.

  I . can't.  spend.  $189.  on.  any.  phone.

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And we are trying to explain "politely" that That. Is. Not. Our. Problem.

 

You could sell your 3G phone while it still has some value and get a landline.

 

Phasing out 3G is not a money-grab. There are good reasons for it. Obsolescence is a fact of life with high tech products. 

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My finances are not your problem. Your problem is understanding that everyone's finances are different. 

I have a landline.  And if you think cell phones haven't become a money-grab, calculate how much hundreds of dollars people now pay for their cell phone usage, always being encouraged to get everything "unlimited."   Whatever happened to "budgeting your time" and "budgeting your money?" I'm not a Luddite because I choose to make most calls from home..

 

I consider this thread closed.

 

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Finances being front and center:   I’ll play a little devils advocate.  

1.  Wait until At&t says you can’t use your current phone.  They offered free phones when 2 g was shut down.

        And false economy?

2.   Why keep 2 services?   Close to 60% of Americans do not have a landline, White pages are passé.  The cost of a landline has become unreasonable.  You can port your landline to cellular and have one service cheaper than you are paying now for 2.  

   The cheapest landline offer for local service only around me is $15 a month, but usually companies want $40, and your paying $8.33 for emergency cell service, if your paying on time, you have buckets of credit on your account you aren’t using. 

 

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